BigQungus
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On 4/30/2019 at 2:09 PM, MPStack said:
He’s a camp darling, being seen through Colts blue colored glasses.
Well stated in your post!
Favoring a Colts player over another Colts player isn't seeing things through Colts glasses, because both players are equally Colts
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Are we seriously entertaining the thought of cutting Moore? Seriously?? That's just asinine
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On 4/30/2019 at 3:12 PM, JPFolks said:
In response to the bolded line: You just proved our point. He was all those things you stated, but he came here and EARNED a spot and significant playing time. Cain hasn't done any of that.
So having a great camp doesn't earn you a roster spot?
Deon Cain didn't get cut because he is a very high pick (6th round) and not because he had a great camp??
I'm confused
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On 4/29/2019 at 11:04 AM, Nulled said:
I think the Chiefs learned a lot from the Kareem Hunt fiasco, and the Adrian Peterson fiasco.
Why should a team cut a star player when they know that another team is going to pick that player up as soon as they are eligible to play again? You don't see the Redskins catching flack for Peterson, and you don't really hear anyone saying how morally wrong the Browns are for signing Hunt. It's really crazy. As much as it sucks, If I'm the Chiefs, I wouldn't cut Hill. He's going to be playing somewhere, might as well be KC.
No, because Kareem Hunt lightly "kicked" a woman in the leg after SHE attacked him. Was it the right thing to do? Of course not. But is it anywhere near as bad as what Tyreek Hill did? Not even close. I'm not sure that another team will pick him up. The league will ban him anyways as soon as he is picked up.
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10 hours ago, Scott Pennock said:
At pick 26 we had an opportunity to draft Sweat, Tillary or Abrams. We didn't, we traded back 20 spots and picked up a 2020 2nd Round Pick and drafted Banogu.
We passed up on both Sweat and Abrams - both obvious needs as the draft clearly played out. Not necessarily Tillary though as we didn't draft a DT - and we never had a chance at Simmons. It does beg the question though.......why?
Did they have Sweat off their board seemingly like Hurst last year due to the heart condition?
Did they like Willis better than Abram?
After all, on top of drafting Gerri Green (who was their team captain btw) who played on the same line as Simmons and Sweat, we signed both starting corners in Jamal Peters and Chris Rayford (who actually look good on tape) as UDFA. So we obviously left that pro day impressed by the talent.
Anyone have any thoughts? Insider info? Conspiracy theories?
Will you forever judge Banogu (and subsequent 2nd Rounder) against that trio of players?
I was never sold on Johnathan Abrams. It didn't seem like we needed a safety so badly that we would draft one in the 1st round (if you're drafting by need), and he was never the BPA at all (if you're drafting by BPA)
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I still can't make a decision until we actually use the 2020 pick, let alone see Sweat and Banogu play
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33 minutes ago, MikeCurtis said:
The REAL theory (LOGIC) here is trading with someone who has a dire, immediate need
If you are starving..... you will pay $20 for a loaf of bread....... If you are satisfied........$1.20
If you are looking for a value....... find the hungry teams
Tell them, they dont have to pay it all immediately........
they can pay some of it NEXT YEAR.
We have built a good team. We now have depth in many positions.
We are not a team that is starving for talent...
I can see this type of trade happening often in our future.......
Well you don't have to find the teams who have a dire, immediate need
They'll find you
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10 minutes ago, Mr.Debonair said:
Rock with #34. Man that is ugly for a CB. Hopefully someone gets cut so he can get a more CB friendly number
That was Mike Mitchell's number. Definitely agree with you on the ugly number for a CB part though
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3 hours ago, Scott Pennock said:
I've read a time or two now that some pundits "think" that our first 4 picks could start for us this year.
So Rock at CB over whom? Desir, Wilson or Moore?
Banogu is easy as he'll likely be the SAM and a designated rusher.
Okereke would likely have to beat out Walker for the MIKE position, which he comes in as a higher pick and better measurables, but, can he call the defense?
Campbell is easy as well as he'll likely start as the slot receiver on day one.
If this happens and makes any of Desir, Wilson, Moore II, Adams or Walker back-up/depth pieces then we're in great shape defensively in my opinion!
Additionally, the 8 position players that were drafted the average RAS Score is 8.225. That is amazing athletic ability added across the board!
No one's beating out Walker for anything. He's too good. Because people are playing more nickel and dime than ever before, there'll be plenty of playing time for Ya-Sin, Marvell Tell III, etc.
And all the Times that we play a base package with 3 linebackers, that's when Okereke and others can come in the picture.
Plenty of playing time for everyone
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23 hours ago, SouthernIndianaNDFan said:
I mean sadly because it means I like one of Cowherd's takes. He is notorious as a Notre Dame basher, and I'm obviously a huge ND fan. I respect that he's extremely clever, and great at his job, but to say ND just can't compete anymore is nonsense, and just trying to ruffle feathers...it worked lol. I argued my points on the air with him in 2011-2012 (during NDs undefeated National Championship appearance, yeah they got murdered by Bama whatever whatever), and he cut me off the air because I think I was winning the debate.
I'd define rebuilding as any point in time where you aren't actively seeking a SB Title. Where you are a piece or 2, or 3, away from hoisting the Lombardi; where adding an OBJ or Lev Bell would take you to the promised land. When your locker room can absorb a few personalities because it's so meshed together (and Ballard eludes to getting to this point).
We aren't at the point where our locker room can absorb a few personalities. I think Ballard himself said that that's about a year away or so. I thought he said that, maybe I'm mistaken.
Wait, did you say you actually called in his show?? That's super cool!! Anyways, back to what I was saying...
I disagree that that is a criterion for having Super Bowl aspirations, or even for not officially rebuilding. We were so close last year, and since then the chiefs lost Dee Ford and Justin Houston, and might lose Tyreek Hill this season. Yes, they gained the Honey Badger and Frank Clark, but still. And I'm just not sure how long the Patriots can do this. We just have to hope that they run out of luck this year. Anyways, point being that we were close last year, and have only gotten better this year.
Our Super Bowl chances are as real as they can be. To say that we don't have those aspirations would definitely be false. So we've shown that it's still possible to contend for a title and put the finishing touches on Ballard's 2-3 year rebuilding plan at the same time.
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On 4/29/2019 at 1:53 PM, MB-ColtsFan said:
I think it's part of the decision process, but that early in the draft it's not really all that useful. If a team asked for our second in the 2019 draft for a 2018 pick and we gave it to them they may expect a mid-high draft pick in 2019 based on the 2018 pre-draft record. Unfortunately for them Ballard got a ton of talent i the 2018 draft and we went from 4-12 to 10-6 and that other team got a late first rounder.
Drafts can dramatically change a team so thinking about the following year is only so helpful.
Yes, but part of the game is predicting who will break out and who won't. The hypothetical team that trades with us last year would be a big loser.
I brought it up now specifically because it's even more important this year. Washington's defense looks scary, but I just don't see them winning more than 6 games. Meanwhile, the 2020 class is said to be loaded. I'm not saying that a team should trade their first round pick for a bad team's first round pick of the following year EVERY year, but I think this is a factor that is even more important this year, and it helps us grasp and understand more fully why Ballard did this trade.
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5 hours ago, lollygagger8 said:
The look opposing defenses are going to see:
I'm gonna start calling Campbell and Hilton The Afterburners
I'm still calling them Parris Hilton
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29 minutes ago, SouthernIndianaNDFan said:
Sadly, I like Colin Cowherd's take the best. Just because Luck guided the Colts to a playoff appearance, and playoff win, don't get it twisted, they're still in a rebuild. Compared us to the Seahawks. This is true, they aren't on the level of the Patriots or Saints YET, but by God they sure are moving on a favorable trajectory.
What do you mean sadly?
To me, it doesn't matter whether we're rebuilding or not, or what you choose to label it. As long as we're winning, I don't care.
As for actually rebuilding, we were fully rebuilding last year, and we're still constructing our roster, but I'm not sure if you can really say we're "rebuilding" this year. I don't know, I guess you have to define rebuild
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12 hours ago, J@son said:
IMO it'll be
Hilton
Funchess
Campbell
Cain
Fountain
Johnson
I doubt we carry 6 WRs into the regular season. Seems like a lot. But someone will get injured at some point, so they all will get to play at some point
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3 minutes ago, Matthew Gilbert said:
It's all a matter of opinion right now. Vegas currently has them at 6.
Yes, but 6 as the prediction, not as the floor.
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An interesting thought...
I wonder if Ballard purposefully trades with sucky teams for their future picks. For example, take this last trade with the Redskins. Depending on the value chart you use, it may be considered a bad trade. But when you factor that the Redskins are probably going to suck very badly, then this trade is a good trade. To a value chart, a 2020 second rounder is a 2020 second rounder. But it doesn't account for who we traded it with! Which makes me wonder, does Ballard purposefully trade with sucky teams cause he knows their future picks will probably be really high?
It's even applicable to last year's trade with the Jets, since we got a 2019 second rounder. At the time, that 2019 second rounder was just a 2019 second rounder. Nothing special. But since the Jets sucked last year, that pick turned out to be really valuable this year.
This may be a very common practice among all NFL teams, and it may be really obvious to some of you, but I want to know your thoughts since I have never really thought about this before
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12 hours ago, shastamasta said:
Sheard has one year left. Houston is 30 and on a two year deal. Lewis is not a DE in this defense (just look at the types he drafted). Turay had strength issues last year.
I think there is definitely some long-term needs at DE. Colts are going to take a numbers approach it appears.
I like Turay a lot and I think he'll develop into a great edge rusher, but the point still stands that we need more than 1 promising young edge rusher. This draft supplied some.
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Aah!! I just figured out how to edit my post. Yeah I’m still a newbie relatively speaking
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Just now, BigQungus said:
3 DTs? 2 WR? 0 edge rushers?Both of the WRs May be the BPA, but still, 2 of them?
and we don’t need 3 DTs at all. Tillery is fine, but with tyquan Lewis moving inside we don’t need more than 1 interior d linemen from the draft
And I don’t like at all how we don’t take ANY edge rushers. None AT ALL. I would not be happy.
Personally I’m just fine with Ballard’s draft
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39 minutes ago, rock8591 said:
In hindsight, would you prefer our draft, or the following, assuming we don't trade our 1st rounder?
I just hate the fact for our first 2 games this year, we have to face picks 1 and 2 that were on my big board.
Reality:
» ROUND 2, PICK 2 (34th overall): Rock Ya-Sin, cornerback, Temple
» ROUND 2, PICK 17 (49th overall): Ben Banogu, linebacker, TCU
» ROUND 2, PICK 27 (59th overall): Parris Campbell, wide receiver, Ohio State
» ROUND 3, PICK 26 (89th overall): Bobby Okereke, linebacker, Stanford
» ROUND 4, PICK 7 (109th overall): Khari Willis, safety, Michigan State
» ROUND 5, PICK 6 (144th overall): Marvell Tell, cornerback, USC
» ROUND 5, PICK 26 (164th overall): EJ Speed, linebacker, Tarleton State
» ROUND 6, PICK 27 (199th overall): Gerri Green, defensive end, Mississippi State
» ROUND 7, PICK 26 (240th overall): Jackson Barton, tackle, Utah
» ROUND 7, PICK 32 (246th overall): Javon Patterson, center, Ole Miss
Alternate reality: draft tackles a lot more D-Line and O-Line, but much none for secondary.
1. Jerry Tillery (DT)
2. AJ Brown (WR)
2. Khalen Saunders (DT)
3. Bobby Okereke (LB)
4. Michael Jordan (G)
4. Foster Moreau (TE)
5. Kelvin Harmon (WR)
6. Isaiah Prince (T)
7. Gerald Willis (DT)
3 DTs? 2 WR? 0 edge rushers?Both of the WRs May be the BPA, but still, 2 of them?
and we don’t need 3 DTs at all. Tillery is fine, but with tyquan Lewis moving inside we don’t need more than 1 interior d linemen from the draft
And I don’t like at all how we don’t take ANY edge rushers. None AT ALL. I would not be happy.
Personally I’m just fine with Ballard’s draft
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15 minutes ago, Bluesmith said:
That one is easy, SPEED. We didn't draft anyone slower than a 4.6 40 until the 7th round.
And the only reason why our 7th round picks were Slow is because they were O linemen
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I’ve done about 3 polls now and every time I second guess my answer after I put it
i gave an A but I now give it a B. I wanted more d linemen. Really though if Ben banogu turns out to be an edge rusher, I can’t complain. Yes, depth would be nice, but I think quality was a little more important. If we spent a high pick on an edge then I can’t complain. I also wanted another DT, but if tyquan Lewis shifts inside, which is what they’ve been indicating, then I guess it’s not that big of a deal
Great, now I don’t know whether I should give it an A or a B. Maybe I should’ve given it an A after all.
To be clear, I don’t give a fig about what I think. My opinion is insignificant when it comes to the draft simply because I don’t get paid to scout hundreds of prospects. I’m not qualified to sit here and speculate about whether Ballard did his job well or not before his picks even hit the field. I give Ballard’s opinion far more weight than even my own, and I really can’t say that for many things because I’m generally a prideful person lol
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2 hours ago, Jared Cisneros said:
I knew we were taking Banogu before the draft and was very high on him. Rock Ya-Sin and Parris Campbell were my 3rd favorites WR and CB. I heard of our 3rd rounder (won't spoil him to you), and was mocking him to us later in mocks. He has a great comparison. Also an extra 5th this year and 2nd next year. Ballard predicted the runs at cb and wr and we did well. Check out the press conference!
13 minutes ago, Matthew Gilbert said:Really? Tell me more.
He was high on Ben Banogu before the draft. I was reading the thread about us trading back, and Jared said after Day 1 Now let's go get Ben Banogu. What I'm confused about is him "not spoiling" the 3rd round pick when they already announced it...
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6 hours ago, aavmarine said:
I'm talking about what the writers on Colts.com are talking about, if we trade early 2nd round picks, for later rounds, and future draft picks that we could use to bargain with for off season trades. What I'm saying is, is that (example) if the Colts trade for Bell, and gave the team our 2 2nd round picks next year, we won't pay that big money to them. After this season, we will start to see big players refusing to talk to the Colts, because they know now, that the Colts will never come close to what they are asking.
Trade for Le'veon Bell????
Ok I'm done. There's just no reason why we would trade for him when we want him in FA
That's the most asinine trade proposal that I've heard this entire offseason
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We're not cutting a productive DE to save money. Why on earth would we need to cut corners when we have that much cap space? Sheard is still productive. Let him stay