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21 minutes ago, NewColtsFan said:
Thanks. Appreciate you posting these. I haven't seen either of those stories before.
That said. I'd be embarrassed if I had been the author of either story.
One said he thinks an appropriate asking price is a "Jimmy Garapollo-like 2nd round pick."
The other link proposed a multiple package of picks 2/4/5 PLUS Landon Collins for the Colts in exchange for a 3 and Brissett.
Again. Embarrassing stuff. Amateur hour. Not to be taken seriously. But feel free to.
Oh, and it's nice that in addition to pointing out that I was wrong (never have a problem with anyone pointing out when I'm wrong) you thought it was necessary to include YET ANOTHER shot about "your arrogance."
So, I'll answer this way..... my arrogance will outlast you with ease.
And "your" arrogance is correctly spelled YOU'RE. As in YOU ARE.
Feel free to learn the English Language.
Actually, "your arrogance", is correctly spelled "your", in the possessive. He did make a grammatical error using "your wrong", which should have been "you're wrong". But your use was incorrect as well.
And.. you do come across as arrogant.
I've heard several talking heads on ESPN's NFL tonight say 2nd or 3rd round as well as the NFL channel. I've also read several places. I believe one on NFL.com. I doubt though any of those sources would please you, as your opinion is obviously better than paid authors.
You probably thought getting a 3rd for Tyrod Taylor (originally a 6th round pick) or Teddy Bridgewater (coming off a bad injury) was crazy too.
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4 hours ago, GoPats said:
Just out of curiosity, are you guys talking about the Colts trading Brissett as a "sell high" kind of thing? Or is there some level of dissatisfaction with him? I don't think they would get as much in return as some of you are thinking, and I also feel like not having a capable backup in this league is extremely risky.
Most talking heads say 2nd or 3rd rounder for him. There was also a rumor at the beginning of the season that we were offered a 3rd for him, we declined, and were offered a 2nd, which we also declined. But who knows.
Personally, I'd trade him in a heartbeat for a 2nd rounder. Maybe a 3rd. Would love to keep him if we can as I think he's a good back up, but I know he believes he can be a starter. And if that's his dream, I hope he gets a shot.
If Luck were to go down (temporarily), he'd be great to fill in for a couple games. If Luck would go down with a season ending injury, honestly I'd prefer to just lose and improve our draft....
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19 minutes ago, Stephen said:
Pass rusher first or a leonard clone
Edge, DT, WR, CB, and S all likely before another OT.
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can't see CJ happening. LB isn't even one of our top 4 or 5 needs. IMO our Tier 1 needs are WR and Edge. Tier 2 CB and DT. Tier 3 S. Tier 4 TE, RB, and LB.
We should be able to get 2 starters in the draft, maybe 3. That leaves likely 2 big needs that we'll need to solve for in FA.
We've got the cap space, and ILBs are actually one of the better positions to get in FA, I just think they'll prioritize differently. I can see them going WR and Edge with the first two in the draft, and CB and DT the next two. Spending some cap on a good S in FA (another position that should be good in the FA market this year) would be my guess.
But who knows, maybe they go all in and grab a good S and ILB in FA.
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I live in ATL, had tix, and sold them. Even had 2 different friends offer me a ticket for free. Glad I didn't go. Worst SB I've ever watched. Half time show sucked. Hell, even the commercials sucked.
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IMO, yes. But I would not break the bank on him. He loves Indy and I'm sure he'd be a "friendly" extension.
But in reality, the question should be Luck's to answer / dictate. There's no doubt they have chemistry. His targets may go down if we're smart enough to get a WR early in the draft, but even so, his RZ production is something we don't want to be without.
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17 minutes ago, MikeCurtis said:
And........ I tried to add.......
One of the biggest reason that the Chiefs lost the very next week, was an actual pass rush.
And...... Brady was in top form........ an AMAZING stud WR, cannot be found on the Patriots
He has a few good ones, but no stud
Please pass rush........
you could also flip that story. KC, who led the league in sacks, couldn't get to Brady at all.... zero times. NE winning had more to do with Brady putting up near 350 passing yards, and the RBs running for 175ish.
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20 minutes ago, MikeCurtis said:
I feel like I am in front of a bright light with a Gestapo agent......
."Vee have WAYS of making you TALK"
First off....... ONE game does not a season make
My thoughts come from the NYG game as well as others
And the ONE game, there was PLENTY more wrong with this team than the simple two questions you pose
But I will try to answer your questions
Did our O do enough....... NEIN!
Was there a good game called by coaching staff - NEIN!
WHY in the World would we try to pass first, when the Chiefs are the WEAKEST against the run??????. When we DID run, we had some movement... it was too late
WHY do we not run some screens in this offense???/
Its the best options against a hard charging DL.
Did Andrew have even an AVERAGE day - NEIN!
- He was out of sorts, not at his best....... His passes just werent accurate
I dont know if you have been watching, but Inman HAS been getting separation......
but not in KC
Did our OL have its worst game in past 10 games - JA!
Did the drops hurt this team - JA!
Did the Chiefs call the right defense - JA!
Would a superstar WR (I dont see one in this draft) make a difference in the KC game? I dont think so. There was TOO MUCH GOING WRONG
Not if Andrew is on his back, and when he does through, he is behind the reciever
Question 2
Did our defense do enough to win the game?
Interesting question. I thought our defense, in the second half did better than the offense
But.......
No matter how you slice it......... Mahomes had all day to throw
If we were in a dome...... the scope would have been a landslide.... to the Chiefs
I would ask you to go watch the Giants game...... No pressure, and the Giants almost beat us,
at home!
Did you watch the last 4-5 games?....... Our BEST, most consistent pass rusher was our TINY CB, coming off the edge........
This is a short term "fix" to a HUGE problem...... NO PASS RUSH
I want a playoff winning team....... In the playoffs, you will see more accurate passers. Without any sort of pass rush, the good teams WILL beat us
I get your passion for WR....... I want one too........ But there is NO Julio Jones, No Megatron, No Randy Moss level picks......... Picks in the 30-40s are very similar to WRs picked in late round 1
CB CONTINUES to say "WE NEED PASS RUSH!" and "Build the lines"
The whole 'The FANS want a WR" comment on 1070, to me lowers the odds of a WR in round 1
In my recollection of being a football fan, I have NEVER seen general manager make the choice of the fans, when they comment in that way
I think it was Polian, who said if you listen to what the fans want you will be sitting with them.........
I think he knows what he wants to do, and will do it
Im not going to lose sleep if he does go WR, but I truly hope we fix the gaping problem that is our pass rush....
Peace and love
Deano
I don't disagree with a lot of what you say, but agree to disagree on WR value. And while one game doesn't make a season, one game sure can end it. And it did.
I watched the NYG game and my take is that our O sucked in the first half, 3 and outs in our first two drives, and the 3rd was an INT.... We kept our D on the field way too much during that time. We settled down and flipped it in the second half.
Back to WR. We don't need a megatron type WR. We do need a #2 who can do better than a #99 ranking (WR Yards). You can likely find that with one of the two first picks.
We were top 10 D (ppg) for the year, and a lot better in the second half (top 3) of the season. Only 3.36pts on average from the #1 D (Bears). That said, I absolutely want a rush DL in the first two picks.
Let's hope we both get want we want :-)
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On 1/31/2019 at 12:34 PM, MikeCurtis said:
If you would have an equally rated, pass rusher to a equally rated WR....... (If thats possible)
I would go DL based on the stated bigger need... AND the "build the lines FIRST" MANTRA from CB
In this draft their appears to be 8-9 Tier 1 DL
In this draft their appears to be 1-2 Tier 1 WR
If ALL of the Tier 1 DL is gone, I am going BPA of OT, Safety, or LB
I personally dont think a WR is warrented in round 1
There also some very decent WRs that would (should be) available in round 2
Lil Jorden Humphreys
Hakeem Butler
Deebo Samuel
JJ Arcega
Riley Ridley
Marquise Brown
ANY of these 6 would step up our team at WR.
There will be one or two of this group that MIGHT be there with our late 2nd rounder
I'd ask you two questions...
Did our O do enough to win the game vs KC? Clearly not. And KC is the 9th worst D in ppg.
Did our D do enough to win the game vs KC? We held KC to 4.3 pts under their average.
In short, 31-13 defeat by the best offense in the NFL, screams our O sucked much more than the D. KC was able to key on TY and limited him to 60 yards because we had no serious #2 WR. And we pass to set up the run. Which is why we didn't break 100 yards rushing.
In short, I'd love to have both a stud WR and a stud rushing DL. But, I absolutely believe that we will get more point differential benefit from a stud WR.
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3 hours ago, MikeCurtis said:
I agree, some of that came, because Inman didnt come up to speed until middle of the year
But........ we have 2 choices in round 2
There are some excellent WRs that should be available with either of these picks
I dont see excellent DEs in round two, I see good DEs....... this team NEEDS an excellent DE
It's really going to depend on the drop offs of both positions. We have picks 26 and 34, and that's not far apart. There will be a huge run on DEs and DTs in the first round, so we have zero clue who will be there and the talent drop off. Not a huge run on WRs, but IMO fewer A1 guys to pick from, and bigger drop off from Tier 1 to Tier 2 guys. I think there's a strong possibility that there might be a T1 WR at 26 which I'd take over a T2 DL. If we're looking at T1 DL vs T2 WR, then go DL all day long with the 1st pick. In short, best available between the two, but all things equal, WR. It's gong to be interesting.
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our #2 WR was 99th in YPG....
just on average, we should have someone in the 33-64 range.
we're way to top heavy. and Luck needs a good #2.
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IMO, the best bang for the buck, and for the +/- points column, is a WR.
Luck simply has to have a #2 WR that is better than the 99th WR stat wise (what we had last year). Not saying we need a guy that can come in and be top 25 day one, but we do need another go-to that is top 50 in yards. And that is doable with the right pick this year.
We absolutely need a rusher, no doubt. But our D did enough vs KC to win that game. Our O did not. I'd say that if anything, that loss showed us we needed an upgrade at WR, and also that the OL is still not a finished product.
1. WR
2. Rushing DE or DT
3. Best available CB/RB/OL
We have the draft picks and cap money to get everything we need. But WR and Rush DL are the two I'd prefer we draft early (long term cost benefit).
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7 hours ago, crazycolt1 said:
Because it does take a couple of years for a WR to learn to play in the NFL. They will make a play once in a while just from their talent but not on a consistent bases.
We don't need a guy to come in and be a top 25 (in rcv yards) year one. We do need a guy to come in and be better than #99, which is what Rodgers was. And a new guy can absolutely be a top 50 guy.
My priorities
1. WR
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2. DE or DT that can rush
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3. CB, RB, OL
Luck will get more mileage out of a good WR IMO. To much of a drop off between #1 and 2. The D did enough enough vs the Chiefs to be in that game. The O did not.
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4 hours ago, aaron11 said:
agreed. i would take it a step further and say i hope they go into win now mode pretty soon. i know we are building a young team, but so are the rams and they took some free agent risks and are now in the super bowl
That's what I'm saying... A good/fast WR + a good pass rushing DL would put us in the mix immediately. Not worried about a back up QB.
If Luck goes down, I don't want a game manager who does just enough to worsen our draft the next year, and bad enough not to compete for a championship.
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We shouldn't be surprised that Ballard went after FAs... I mean, it's his job. IMO, he had pressing needs last year, and he tried to do what a GM is supposed to. I doubt he was willing to bet the farm on any one or two FAs though, and I don't expect him to this year either.
I think this coming year he may go closer to "all in" to set up for a playoff run now that Luck is confirmed healthy and back to form. But to me at least, still doesn't mean he'll shell out for someone like Bell unless we really think it's a bargain.
I've always been a fan of getting your high dollar talent via the draft in order to maximize your dollars, and spend your cap on solid FAs that are underrated or might be a better fit with the Colts (like Ebron). Give me a WR and DL with 2 of the first 3 picks, take some chances with the other picks, and use the cap money to fill the rest of the holes. Would love to pick up a RB like Dexter Williams in the 3rd round of later if he is still there.
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It's simple to me. If Luck goes down, even with JB, we wouldn't go deep in the playoffs. And if we don't have a shot, I'd rather get a better draft pick than struggle to be an average team.
If we can get a 2nd or 3rd, or a decent trade out of him, I'll take it. Then draft a back up QB with a late round pick that you won't have to pay as much...
We need to focus on a championship more than what-if-Luck-goes-down.
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JB was a third round draft pick for the Pats.
The Colts traded a young (2 year) 1st round (29th) WR pick for JB.
Dorsett IIRC has two post season TDs for NE so far this year....
I'd take the following:
-A second round pick
-A quality WR, CB, DL, OL, or RB
-A third round plus so-so backup QB to replace JB
Stockpiling draft picks like Belichick!
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1 hour ago, Chloe6124 said:
The one thing I hope Luck can develop is a little more vocal leadership style like Peyton. Peyton would make it known when he wasn’t happy. We don’t see very many emotions out of Luck, I don’t know if he has it in him like Peyton.
I think Andrew needs to drink some more Budweiser like Peyton did. Might loosen him up vocally lol.
Half serious.....
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I agree the O game plan was crap. And 2nd half adjustments were crap. I'd also say that execution on O was crap. All around crap lol. The D did enough IMO to beat a team like KC despite some really soft coverage at times and poor tackling at times too. That said, I was surprised our OL looked as bad as they did at times and I think it was likely the biggest reason for our struggles. Second was our lack of a #2 WR.
Regardless, I'm happy with the season. It was far better than I thought it would be. After a cooling off from the game, I think we are a #2 WR, and a little improvement to our OL to make a serious run next year. Throw in some improvement to the DL (Edge or other) and at CB, and all the better.
We have the draft picks and cap space to make some major noise.
Let's do this. 2019!
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Definitely promising. The O and D have been very complimentary in a lot of games.
Sure we haven't played many teams with top Os, but we've played several with good Ds.
It is refreshing that we haven't given up 30 in 7 straight games regardless of the opponent.
At the end of the day, the team is at minimum improving on both sides of the ball as the year goes on. A couple more pieces in the draft and in FA and we could be really special.
For now.... Just win!
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So there's still a chance!
Need to beat a second team from TX next week.
Great win, and thank you KC! FU Pats lol...
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damn impressive...
how many times did we here Houston was the hottest team during the broadcast.
this is one that i counted as a loss. evens things out with last week's loss.
can't believe the Pats lost...
Chiefs/Ravens in OT... Come on KC
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the bend but give me a headache D drives me nuts
Inman wants to end his career with the colts
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yup, but still go after a WR with one of the first two or three picks.