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NFL.com's Profile
Draft Grade: 6.11 SHOULD BECOME INSTANT STARTER
Draft Projection: 2nd Round
College: OSU
Position: WR/Return
Height: 6-0
Weight: 205
40 Time: 4.31
QuoteBIO:
At famed St. Vincent-St. Mary High School in Akron, Campbell's athleticism made him an all-state football player (1,584 rushing yards, 22 score) and track athlete (led state-title winning relays, set state record for indoor 60-meter dash). He played in eight games as a reserve his true freshman year at OSU, but had no catches or returns. That changed the following season, as Campbell started 12 of 13 games played (13-121-9.3 receiving; 4-54-13.5, one TD rushing) and was named third-team All-Big Ten as a kick returner (21-584-27.8). He was a team captain in 2017, again starting 12 of 13 games and earning third-team all-conference accolades -- but as a receiver (40-584-14.6, three TD). He also contributed via handoffs (10-132-13.2, one TD rushing) and returns (9-329-36.6). Campbell stepped up his game to become a first-team All-Big Ten selection as a senior, leading the Buckeyes with 90 receptions for 1,063 yards (11.8 average) and 12 touchdowns in 14 starts.
Overview:
Blue-chip athlete with elite package of size, speed and fluidity as a big slot receiver. Campbell's athletic attributes could create a coverage conundrum if his offensive coordinator puts him in a diversified role that allows him to attack vertically more often. Teams know he's a gifted athlete, but he needs to add more polish as a route-runner to become a well-rounded target instead of a gadget slot. His upside is bolstered by his traits while his special teams ability and talent with the ball in his hands should level out any bust concerns.
Strengths:
Track speed to scare safeties and corners
Expected to crush combine in all testing
Extremely explosive but still fluid
Early cushions of respect offer easy catches underneath
Light feet dart around defenders looking to impede
Generates separation on all three levels
Lived on Jugs machine last summer and improved hands
Comfortable plucking throws in stride
Size to break initial tackle after catch
Quick gather and leap to rescue overthrows
High-end potential with ball in his hands
Acceleration to split tacklers with speed to defeat angles and house it
Can get after it as slot blocker
Capable kick returner with above-average cover talent on punts and kicks
Weaknesses:
Handcuffed to a more limited role in college
Jet sweep and catch-and-run specialist with much to learn still
Limited experience with the route tree and downfield looks
Appears to be step-counter on intermediate patterns
Flat, rounded routes lack quality fakes at the top
Doesn't change route tempo very often
Tons of zone looks made life easy for him in space
Catch focus will need continued work
Sources Tell US:
"Urban (Meyer) has a system and it works, but it makes it harder to evaluate his receivers. Mike Thomas was just okay in their offense and then he gets to the pros and he's great. Campbell is kind of raw, but that same thing could happen with him." -- Personnel executive for AFC team -
51 minutes ago, GoColts00 said:
He reminds me of Justin Houston. I expect for Banogu to learn how Houston does it and over the next 2 seasons he will grow, get more playing time and by year 3 when Houston's contract is up he will be a double-digit sack Player
I think that's very fair putting him on a two year development track given TCU's scheme and lack of technique coaching.
23 minutes ago, Jared Cisneros said:I think he'll start by the 2nd half of the season. Interestingly enough, I can see him playing DE and OLB as a situational player, and on 3rd downs, which will give him a lot of playing despite being a backup. He'll get lots of tackles for losses IMO, and 4-6 sacks (I'll say 5) in his rookie year. I like Banogu for us this year in year 1.
If he picks up rush technique quickly, I wouldn't be shocked to see him starting late in the season. A little surprised though. I think his biggest need is technique, but I also think he needs to improve his strength to be an every down player.
My bet is that we'll see him on late and obvious passing downs at minimum. My gut says the SAM experiment is aborted (perhaps one of the other rooks spending time there) by mid season. I think a 30-40% of defensive snap counts would be an incredibly successful year for him.
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27 minutes ago, Jared Cisneros said:
I went the same except I said 4 INT's. He had a good eye for the football in OTA's, getting an INT in nearly every practice. I believe that will translate in the NFL year one. IMO, he starts over Quincy Wilson (opposite Desir) to begin the year.
I wonder if that's a product of the QB he was facing. Can't wait to see how he looks against Luck and some of the tier one WR/TEs. I think he could be special down the road.
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3 minutes ago, IndyD4U said:
Let's see what he does in camp first.
this is a projection before the pads go on.
in other words, place your bets :-)
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I think Banogu's season could go a couple different ways. If they focus him on DE rush technique, he could make a big impact. If they shuffle him back and forth from SAM to DE, then I think he takes longer to develop.
Given we use SAM so little (at least last year), I just don't see a huge benefit splitting his time. Given he got almost zero rush technique coaching at TCU, I'd love to see him put his focus 100% there.
Unfortunately I think he'll split time.
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NFL.com's Profile
Draft Grade: 5.45 NFL BACKUP OR SPECIAL TEAMS POTENTIAL
Draft Projection: 4-5th Rounds
College: TCU
Position: DE/OLB
Height: 6-3
Weight: 250
40 Time: 4.62
QuoteBIO:
Banogu (pronounced BAN-uh-goo) flew under the recruiting radar a bit despite being a third-team All-State pick in McKinney, Texas. Louisiana-Monroe picked him up, and he wound up on the Sun Belt Conference All-Newcomer squad as a redshirt freshman in 2015 (13 starts, 45 tackles, 14.5 for loss, five sacks). Banogu transferred to TCU in 2016 and sat out the season under transfer rules. In 2017, he excelled with the Horned Frogs, earning first-team All-Big 12 honors and conference Defensive Newcomer of the Year with 49 tackles, 16.5 for loss, and 8.5 sacks. Banogu was a first-team all-conference selection as a senior, posting a team-high 18 tackles for loss and 8.5 sacks among his 57 total stops in 13 starts.
Overview:
Edge player with good athleticism, who could struggle to translate to the next level unless he diversifies his approach as a rusher. His quickness created opportunities with inside moves and twists in college, but NFL tackles will shut and lock that interior door on him until he proves he can threaten them around the corner. Banogu could challenge for a nickel rush position in the future, but he still needs work.
Strengths:
Potent as slanter with ability to cross-face tackles and penetrate the gap
Has foot quickness and agility to alter rush challenges from edge to edge
Inside-out move forces tackle to squeeze down, opening tighter outside track
Good awareness of pocket depth
Has ability to push tackle up the pocket and spin back underneath for pocket access
Has agility and quickness to track and corral scramblers
Quick to drop and shuffle behind his tackles to tackle runners hitting A-gaps
Capable to punch and play off tight end blocks
Weaknesses:
Predictable pass rusher with affinity for inside moves
Has upfield burst but doesn't use it enough to burn the edge
Needs to improve hands and implement them into his rush plan
Can be controlled by strength in pass rush and run game
Stiff punch from long-armed tackle ends his snap
Missing base power to set the edge or play through redirect blocks
Too many missed tackles due to poor positioning and balance.
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11 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:
I went day 1 starter, solid season. He went where he should've. 3 Int's.
I went the same except I think he'll take a few games to start. I think he'll get time early as a backup, and look so good they'll start him by game 5.
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NFL.com's Profile
Draft Grade: 5.87 CHANCE TO BECOME NFL STARTER
Draft Projection: 1-2 Round
Actual Draft Selection: 34th (2/2)
College: Temple (*Transfer from Presb College)
Position: CB
Height: 6-0
Weight: 192
40 Time: 4.51
QuoteBIO:
Abdurrahman "Rock" Ya-Sin was not highly regarded coming out of Southwest DeKalb High School in Decatur, Georgia. The former two-time All-Region pick in football and two-time state champion wrestler signed with FCS program Presbyterian College, where he played in 11 games as a true freshman (two starts, 15 tackles, two pass breakups). Ya-Sin started 11 games his sophomore campaign (31 tackles, two for loss, nine pass breakups) and then became a first-team All-Big South performer in 2017, making 45 tackles, intercepting five passes, and breaking up eight others in 11 starts. He transferred to Temple as a graduate student for the 2018 season and immediately showed he had the talent to excel at the FBS level. Ya-Sin was a first-team All-American Athletic Conference selection as a senior, leading the Owls with 12 pass breakups to go along with 47 tackles, two for loss, and two interceptions. He did not play in Temple's bowl game, presumably to prepare for the NFL Draft.
Overview:
Body-beautiful cornerback with good size and potential, but just one year of FBS football experience. Ya-Sin needs technique work across the board, but the ability to handle the duties of the position are all in place and waiting to be unlocked. He has the strength, toughness and feet to go from shadowing presence to a more disruptive one as a press-man corner. His lack of technique allows for some pitch-and-catch moments in coverage, but he has moldable traits to become a future starter with more experience and coaching.
Strengths:
Really long with carved up physique
Coaches loved him after just a couple months in program
Given single-digit number representing nine toughest players
Light in his backpedal
Possesses foot quickness for extended mirroring of release
Has potential for extended mirroring
Upper body strength to improve pop in his jam
Has traits for press-man or off-man
Decent closing burst to attack throws
Plays into catch-point with aggressive hands
Has ability to stick and drive from bail coverage
Willing in run support
Impressive upside with more technique work
Weaknesses:
Not as disruptive from press as he could be
Needs more technique work
Turned around due to early hip declarations from press
Struggles to maintain proper leverage
False steps at top of his drop
Slight delay in transitions from off-man
Long speed is just average
Gets climbed and stacked at times
Inconsistent to stay in phase against verticals
Tendency to grab and face-guard rather than turn and locate
Average field awareness
Requires additional tackling technique
Sources Tell US:
"Once he adds some coaching and technique to his physical tools, he's got a chance to take a big leap. We love guys that look like him. That's what you want your GM to draft." -- Secondary coach with AFC team
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I'd bet a pretty decent sum of cash that we keep 4.
Most teams in the league carry 4 on their 53 man roster.
I see Mack as the obvious RB1, Hines as the APB, Ware as the short yardage and RZ guy, and Wilkins as Mack's back up. Keep in mind that Wilkins played 30+% of special teams downs last year, and it wasn't as a return guy. RBs make great special teams guys.
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11 hours ago, throwing BBZ said:
It was work ethic, passion for the game, football intelligence, competitive nature, teamness, and mental toughness. Character risk, will to be great.
There is personal character written all through that!!
Only 10-12 graded Blue Card based on our STRICT grading system.
And as you ask it, were there only that many guys in this draft that we graded intelligent, passionate, and deals well with injury. Good grief!
There is no bother to go A-Z on anyone that the scouts don't grade highly, by our standards, in performance and analytics, the TAPE.
A Blue Card per CB & Frank, IS all about paragraph one above.I think about an undrafted Pat Tillman. He may have been an undrafted Blue Card in his day.
I quoted exactly what he said about football character.
See my reply to Sup for additional.
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13 hours ago, Superman said:
Not to be pedantic, but now you're asking for a definition of "football character," not what kind of player qualifies for a blue card. He said clearly and directly that a player who meets their strict criteria for football character gets a blue card. He didn't offer a detailed and comprehensive explanation for how they determine a player's football character, nor would he be expected to offer that kind of explanation for an intangible quality, but he did offer some of the criteria they use.
It obviously doesn't mean priority talent or priority need, as you suggested earlier. It's not about the player's overall ranking on the team's draft board. It's unlikely that they considered Rock Ya-Sin a top 12 player on their board, but he was one of the team's 12 blue cards.
I don't think it's hard to understand at all.
He actually defined football character to an extent, so not asking for that. He didn't give parameters, but that's not my point. My points are, 1) that we're really no closer to understanding how it all works, and 2) we really don't know who can get a blue card....
For example, and I think you might have used it. If there's a QB who is passionate, has great football IQ, and deals with injury well (that was his definition), would he have gotten a blue card this last draft. Probably not because we had no intention of taking a QB (to my original post on "need"). And in terms of personal character.... does having a bad personal character (he distinguished between football and personal) flag omit a player from getting a blue card in the first place (my original point on personal "character"). And if he is not talented (the third from my original post), they are likely not going to go through the effort.
Not trying to be pedantic either, but to me, it clarifies almost nothing.
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To me, WR. It's the position with the most newbies with a chance to start from day 1, or 2 lol.
Specifically,
1) Where are they lining up Campbell. I think we all assumed slot would be his home, but Ballard spent time talking about him needing to learn how to play "outside".
2) Where is Funch lining up, and what routes is he running. Are they prioritizing the routes that they published (that he was successful at), or are they trying him out all over field. Also, how much time is he getting at bully/big-slot?
3) Anything on Cain if he returns
4) What position do they have Dulin taking reps at?
5) Anything on Fountain's performance. They've talked a lot about his route running has improved. Is it true, and is he catching well.
6) Guessing we'll also get a peak at Campbell and Dulin in returns. Very interested in how both are doing. And are cutting back on Rogers and Pascal's time?
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On 7/10/2019 at 4:01 PM, ManningGM said:
We can still make that happen tho. Ayyyyy
we sure can. out road is just a lot tougher than theirs :-)
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On 7/10/2019 at 10:37 AM, Superman said:
To hang on every word, you have to read every word.
From the article:
If a player meets our strict criteria in terms of his football character, he is given a blue card.
There's nothing to decode in this case.
I read every word, twice...
he defined football character as
"which is how is he going to be in the building, what’s his love for the game, how’s he gonna work, what’s his football intelligence, what’s his passion, how does he deal with injuries? All of the things we go through of how we’re going to handle him in the building, alright??
So any guy that is intelligent, passionate, and deals with injury well get a blue card?
So when handing out blue cards, performance on the field and personal character have zero to do with it? Not buying it. He delineates personal character from football character, but is a guy with obvious character issues, or that lacks performance even eligible for a blue card?
Again, not a well rounded "definition", and still plenty to decode.
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Unless Ballard defines "blue card", we're all just guessing. Could mean "priority talent", could mean "priority need for the team", could mean any combination of "need" + "talent" + "character".
Another example of folks hanging on every word... And some folks acting like they have the decoder key of Ballard. Could someone just ask him to define it lol.
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21 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:
I would say in the AFC the SB contenders are:
Pats, Chiefs, Chargers, and Colts. I do have the Browns winning the AFC North but do not see them as a SB contender. Just like the Texans in recent years. I always just looked at them at possibly winning the division but I figured they were never good enough to beat the Pats or Broncos when Peyton was there (2015).
I think the Browns are a "wild card". Not a wild card into the playoffs (could be). They could be the KC of last year. Or they could be a choke monster. IMO, from top to bottom, they are in the strongest division. Not the strongest in terms of having the best team or teams, but a division that has very solid teams top to bottom.
14 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:To add to that I see the Steelers around 9-7, same for the Ravens. That division is very winnable for the Browns.
I would not be surprised if any AFCN team won the division. I think every team is solid, and there's a lot that could happen. I think ceilings are highest this year for the Browns and Bengals, but I also know each has a history of choking.
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The deeper I look at teams across the NFL, the more I think it's anyone's SB.
Not literally anyone's, but there are 6 teams on each side I could see going to the SB.
In the AFC... The Chiefs couldn't do it last year, and they've lost some key pieces and Mahomes isn't going to surprise anyone this year. Pats are another year older and lost some pieces. They have a great schedule to lean on, but I don't see them repeating. LAC have as good as case as anyone. The Browns have a ton of talent, could make noise, but could also be the Browns that we've seen for a long time too. The Browns, like KC, will go the way of the QB, and I'd bet one gets injured this year. Pit and Balt have lost a lot, or have huge holes in areas. Cinci IMO might be a spoiler in the AFCN.
The Colts are top to bottom solid with several upgrades. Wish we had the Pats at home this year.
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The kid definitely has the athleticism. Playing against horrible competition is his only sin.
Pretty sure he had offers to go to bigger schools. IIRC, someone in his family had health issues (maybe his brother), and he wanted to stay close.
You never know how folks react to the jump in competition. If he has the physicality to beat the press at the line, I'd say chances are very good for him making the PS. WR room is crowded this year, but he might be a project worth investing in. I would love to see a guy like him get a shot at returns. If he's a special teams guys (in general, not just returns), that would go a long long way for him.
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1 hour ago, Jared Cisneros said:
Only thing that worries me are the uncontrollable injuries. If we avoid those, watch out NFL!
extremely true
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32 minutes ago, krunk said:
I think the Jags with Foles are going to take a step forward over Houston and the Titans. I think we will win the division crown. You may think I'm being a bit bold here, but I'm expecting our D to be right up there with the Jags D when it's all said and done. I think we are really deep in the secondary, and I think we may potentially have better pieces on our D line overall then what the Jags have had the past two seasons outside of Calais Campbell.. The speed of our linebackers is very similar in my opinion and we are pretty good on the back end too. And with it being the 2nd year in the system the execution will be better. Im expecting the D to be pretty consistent.
I hope that Houston is a piece that will raise, collectively, the DL's level of play. If that happens, then I agree. If the pass rush improves, that will have a positive impact on both LB and especially DB play. If it all comes together, our D can be very formidable.
It's going to be very hard though. The QBs / passing teams that we face this year will be far better than last year.
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10 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:
As of now I am going to roll with the Browns in the AFC North. It is a gamble and they may end up 8-8 but I see them as 10-6. I am not sure the Steelers will be the same moving forward after last year. I am not sure Lamar at QB can stay healthy for the Ravens.
I have = NE, KC, Indy, Browns as my division winners. WC = LAC and Jags. I see the Jags and Texans as pretty even but the Texans won several close games last season, law of averages says they won't be as lucky.
Given the schedules / SOS, I see:
AFC East - NE, with one of the easiest schedules, winning with 3-4 losses
AFC North - Total crapshoot. Balt with 5-6 losses, Cinci with 5ish, Cleveland with 5ish, and Pitt with 5-6. Cinci could end up being a surprise, but I think Cleveland comes through.
AFC South - Texans 5-6 losses, Jax with 5-6, and Indy with 4-5. Will be interesting but I think the Colts take it.
AFC West - KC with 5-6 losses, LAC with 5ish. Could go either way, but I think LAC takes it.
AFC WCs are KC and one of many (Balt/Cinci/Pitt/Jax)
NE, simply by it's cakewalk schedule, should have the best record and home field throughout the playoffs. The rest of it could go so many ways.
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4 hours ago, BigQungus said:
#1 he signed Denico Autry. and #5 and #4 on the good shouldn't really count until we know that they're good signs
I like Autry, but I'd like to see him progress this year. IMO, doesn't rank at this point.
As far of 4 and 5 go, I'm not ranking those players, I'm ranking Ballard's action to go get those players. We needed a pass rush in the worst way, and he got Houston. Our WR group was a clear barrier last year, and we needed a speed option, not just a big RZ guy.
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22 hours ago, Scott Pennock said:
Who writes these articles? As usual they are only partially accurate!
Polian Era - Castonzo, Vinatieri
Grigson Era - Clark, Haeg, Kelly, Farley, Geathers, Rhodes, Doyle, Milton and Hilton
Ballard - 29 draft picks the past 3 drafts, 27 still with the team. Banner is with Pittsburgh and Basham is with the Jets.
Still impressive how he's churned this roster over from a * poor oline and terrible 3-4 defense into an elite oline and an up and coming 4-3 defense.
You forgot luck :-)
Ballard was very impressive given the scheme changes and overall quality.
59 minutes ago, IndyScribe said:You also have to take into account that the average career of an NFL player is 4 years. Not that surprising there's been that much turnover.
Yup. New guys "sticking" to the roster can also be attributed to the poor overall quality that he inherited as well. It's going to be interesting to watch the 2019 draft class in terms of stickiness.
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8 hours ago, ManningGM said:
Yes, the Rams defeated KC before their mojo took a swing in the wrong direction. Thank you for pointing that out.
In all fairness, both of their mojos suffered late in the season. Hunt got yanked, Gurley got beat up. Neither one broke 100 yards rushing, but both had around 100 all purpose yards.
I do remember that game. It's was one of the best offensive games of the year. Mahomes went crazy, but also had 2 or 3 INTs. Both Goff and Mahomes has 400+ yards and near identical QBRs.
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