[Pick #46/ #82 What's Available Day 2? Discussion]

5 minutes ago, Moosejawcolt said:

if they have to make a move, I would see them offering Samuel's. Aiyuk is a field stretcher and Samuel has been beaten up because of the type of game he plays. Aiyuk will not be going anywhere. We need a field stretcher 

Yeah, not too interested in Deebo.

 

I am interested in Aiyuk, but he probably isn't going anywhere.

 

I'm still good with Pierce, take us another guy to compete with him in 4th or 5th round.

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So 1st of, the OP is updated

 

 

 

I wanted to go through draft day trades and evaluate them vs the trade vue charts.

 

 

 

Vikings-Jets deal:

Vikings send 11, 129 (4th round), 157 (5th round) 

Jets for 10, 203 (6th round)

 

10 - 1300

203 - 10.2

 

1310.2pts

 

11 - 1250

129 - 43

157 - 28.6

 

1321.6pts

 

Jets actually took a 6th round loss on the drop down.

 

 

Vikings-Jaguars deal:

Vikings get:

2024 1st-round pick (No. 17)(950)

 

950pts

 

Jaguars get:

2024 1st-round pick (No. 23)(760)

2024 5th-round pick (No. 167)(24.6)

2025 3rd-round pick(116)

2025 4th-round pick(24.6)

 

925.2pts

 

Vikings got additional 5th round value for moving down.

 

So Vikings in these 2 trade downs won both trades by additional 5th + 6th

 

 

 

Cowboys-Lions deal:

Cowboys rec:# 29 +73 

Lions rec: #24 and a 2025 seventh-round pick.

 

24 - (740)

2025 7th - (1)

 

741pts

 

29 - (640)

73 - (225)

 

865pts

 

 

Cowboys gained 124pts, a late 3rd, in trade down(#94 pick value)

 

 

Bills-Panthers deal:

Panthers rec:

#32, #200

Bills rec: #33, #141

 

32 - 590

200 - 11.4

 

601.4pts

 

33 - 580

141 - 35.5

 

615.5pts

 

 

Difference of a 6th round pick.

 

 

Chiefs-Bills deal:

Chiefs rec: #28, #133, #248

Bills rec: #32, #95, #221

 

28 - 660

133 - 39.5

248 - 1

 

700.5pts

 

32 - 590

95 - 120

221 - 3

 

713pts

 

 

Another trade with a 6th round difference in value

 

 

 

 

So on this small sample size, I would say these trades were pretty close to the charts.

 

Outlier is Cowboys trade with a big gap. Links must of really wanted their guy, I'm sure there was competition to get to that spot, so an overpay makes some sense.

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2 hours ago, chad72 said:

How many PAC 12 OL went in Round 1? How many Big 12 and how many SEC?

 

Just trying to understand the competition Latu played and who he went against. You touched upon pressures and pressure percentages as lacking with Colts DL, Ballard heard it   and Latu is at the top there.

Pac 12 - 3(included Fautanu)

Big 12 -1

Big 10 - 1

SEC - 2

Independent - 1

 

 

Pac 12 led the way.

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6 minutes ago, boo2202 said:

Corner, Linebacker, or OL. Imo nothing left worth taking at WR. Rather don’t fit or projects. Don’t waste a pick, just address the WR position with a premium pick next year. 

Definitely at the moment, I'm looking to the 3rd-5th before looking at WR.

 

Not liking how it lines out in the 2nd.

 

 

There are WRs after what I listed that I still wouldn't mind.

 

McCaffrey 

Rice

McMillan 

 

 

I'm thinking:

#46 - CB/LB/OL

#82 - CB/S/OL

 

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Not sure if listed somewhere or mentioned elsewhere. 

 

On NFL Network they said the Falcons were hot trying to trade up and get Latu from right before us or slide in a pick after us.

[Pick #46/ #82 What's Available Day 2? Discussion]

Alright so the Colts have (2) of the next 50 picks:(unless we traded back, but in most likely good would still have 2 in next 50.

 

 

Best available:(no particular order)

WR:(11)

Mitchell 

Mcconkey 

Franklin 

Polk

Wilson

Corley

Coleman

Baker

Burton 

Washington 

Walker 

 

CB:(8)

Kool-Aid

Melton 

Dejean

Rakestraw 

Tampa

Jackson

Lassiter 

Hart

 

S:(7)

Bullard

Nubin 

Hicks

Taylor-Demerson 

Bishop

Green

Kinchens 

 

LB:(5)

Cooper

Wilson

Colson

Gray

Trotter Jr 

 

DL:(5)

Newton

Fiske

Jenkins

Isaac

Sweat 

 

OL:(6)

Jackson-Powers

Haynes

Beebe

Frazier 

Puni

Van Pran 

 

 

 

There is 42 players

 

 

 

This isn't including all kinds of guys at other positions that will go in the next 50 picks.

 

So more than likely 2 of the guys on this list could end up on the Colts next season.

 

 

Miss anyone? 

 

Anyone shouldn't be on the list?

 

 

Like I said there is probably 10-15 players not even at these positions that will probably be locked in that 50.

 

 

So some of these could end up around 4th round pick range.

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6 minutes ago, richard pallo said:

For sure but his cap hit is 28m.  That’s a big problem for most teams at this stage.  That’s why the 4th rd offers I would think.  Would probably need another extension.  For me Aiyuk is the perfect player for us given all the circumstances.  

His cap hits if traded aren't bad.

 

2024 - $23m

2025 - $17.5m

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Changed the title, what would be your ideal pick combination in day 2?

 

I will try and put together a 3rd round list.

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Ballard started a presser yet?

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1 minute ago, Dobbinblitz said:

A special phone call for Laiatu Latu

BY ASSOCIATED PRESS

Laiatu Latu was just moments into his NFL career with the Indianapolis Colts when he got a call from Colts owner Jim Irsay right on the draft stage. 

“I was on the phone for like a good five minutes,” Latu said, “but then they were rushing me to get off the stage but I wanted to talk to him.” 

Latu said Irsay couldn’t wait to get him in the team facilities to train, especially alongside edge rusher Kwity Paye. The Colts drafted Paye, a Michigan product, in the first round of the 2021 NFL draft.

Doesn't sound like a team ready to move on from Paye.

 

 

I would give him his 5th year bonus and reevaluate again after the season, long term.

[Pick #46/ #82 What's Available Day 2? Discussion]

2 minutes ago, Shive said:

Max Melton is my guy at 46.

I would say my top 5 I would like to get:(no particular order)

Kool-Aid

Melton

Dejean 

Cooper (LB)

Franklin 

[Pick #46/ #82 What's Available Day 2? Discussion]

We have the 14th pick in round 2.

 

Best available:(no particular order)

WR:

Mitchell 

Mcconkey 

Franklin 

Polk

Wilson

Corley

 

CB:

Kool-Aid

Melton 

Dejean

Rakestraw 

Tampa

 

S:

Bullard

Nubin 

 

LB:

Cooper

Wilson

Colson

 

DT:

Newton

Fiske

 

OL:

Jackson-Powers

 

 

 

That's 19 players there.

 

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2 minutes ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

I have no clue what colts will do tomorrow because I have no clue if there is any WR left or what CB could be there. Doesn’t seem to be a very deep class after this first round.

Those are arguably the two deepest positions in the draft 

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2 minutes ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

Chiefs are taking worthy. What are bills doing. Lol

So what WR will be available in second?

Looking forward to reset after round and seeing who might be there 

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1 minute ago, krunk said:

I think Paye still gets resigned. Will let Ebukam go next season

No need 

 

Ekubam and Latu, will only take up $15m.

 

Even picking up Paye's 5th year at $13m

 

That's only $28m at DE, about the price of 1 elite guy.

 

Still can add money for Dayo as well.

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Any chance we trade back up?

 

 

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Defensive Line:

DE:(8) Samson Ebukam, Kwity Paye, Laiatu Latu, Dayo Odeyingbo, Tyquan Lewis, Titus Leo, Isaiah Land, Genard Avery 

 

DT:(6) Deforest Buckner, Grover Stewart, Raekwon Davis, Adetomiwa Adebawore, Taven Bryan, Eric Johnson

 

 

Hopefully we will be able to get Land and Leo to the practice squad?

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You know Coach Partridge was integral in this selection.

 

 

Paye could be moved, potentially during the draft? Doubt they pick his option up now.

 

Or Dayo?

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Turner the pick 

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Just now, indyagent17 said:

They’re saying he’s one injury away from being out of the NFL. Are you kidding me?

Every player is.

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Pick is in

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Lol, trade back or pick is on?

 

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1 minute ago, NFLfan said:

@Zoltan Is happy.

Gotta admit, I may regret it.

 

But I am happy we have to move on.

 

Murphy 

Mitchell

Turner

Thomas/Worthy

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Still have no clue what we will do.

 

 

This is a crazy year.