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4 minutes ago, richard pallo said:
Just read an article on BR referencing the top 10 FA available and landing spots. They mentioned Howard and Nelson for the Colts but not Gilmore. Diggs was not in their top 10. Simmons was and he was not mentioned for the Colts. One interesting comment under Simmons is that he would have counted against the compensatory pick formula if he signed before the draft. Now he won’t so expect teams to go after him now. I wonder if Howard or Diggs fall under those similar circumstances. I think Diggs is more likely for the reason you mentioned.
In another separate article they think Elliott is a candidate to be Taylor’s backup RB with Moss gone.
Yeah I read that article.
Didn't see the Nelson part, . maybe I didn't read it good enough? Have to double back.
Howard makes some sense. Can come compete for #2/#3, at worst, makes the whole group deeper at the #4 spot. As does a few other guys.
Still interested to see how Ameer Speed has developed, off of his rookie season. Never know, could take a step as well.
Main goal should be to get Baker off of the position battle list and on the camp body list.
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solid to see.the other side of Jamie's conversation
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14 minutes ago, MikeCurtis said:
He read the board right, BUT.......
If another team would have traded into those spots, we would have missed on a player that I think COULD be a Moss type reciever
I thought Pittsburgh was going to take him right in front of us.
I'm sure Ballard had a good pulse on the draft who was staying put and what they were probably looking for. Think he just knew what he was doing.
They liked both Mitchell and Corley, imo, so he knew there was a fall back if that did happen. If he was too worried about losing him he would of selected him at #46.
They traded up for Goncalves because they were afraid to lose him.
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1 minute ago, MikeCurtis said:
The trade back in round 2 was a bit risky IMHO
It paid off but, yikes
Maybe? I think he just read the board well, and he probably liked 2 WRs there. Corley was the next WR taken after Mitchell and not till the first pick of the 3rd round.(12 picks from Mitchell's spot, 18 picks from #46)
Another receiver wasn't drafted in the 2nd after Mitchell
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Start talking about some of these positional groups. Might as well start on the secondary. Probably most polarizing spots currently.
19 hours ago, w87r said:CB:(8) Dallis Flowers, JuJu Brents, Kenny Moore, Jaylon Jones, Ameer Speed, Chris Lammons, Micah Abraham, Darrell Baker Jr
Going to break them down in different categories: locks, positional battles, etc. will keep 5-6(leaning 6 as of now)
Outside:
Brents(lock)
Flowers(lock)
Jones(lock)
Speed
Baker Jr
Nickel:
Moore(lock)
Lammons
Abraham(maybe can play outside?)
So I think looking at this, it is clear that we need to bring in a veteran CB to compete with Speed, Baker Jr and Abraham for the 4th outside CB spot.
Position Battles CB4:
Speed
Baker Jr
Vet FA?
When it comes to the nickel, clearly Moore isn't going anywhere. This is strictly a battle for Nickel #2. Lammons vs Abraham. Should be a good battle, maybe Abraham has leg up with outside flexibility? Veteran could also be going for #2 or #3 spot. Will just call it 4th CB in general.
Position Battles NB2:
Lammons
Abraham
Possible FA Additions:
Nelson
Gilmore
Witherspoon
Howard
Adoree Jackson
JC Jackson
Levi Wallace
19 hours ago, w87r said:S:(9) Julian Blackmon, Nick Cross, Rodney Thomas, Daniel Scott, Jaylin Simpson, Trevor Denbow, , Marcel Dabo, Kendell Brooks, Michael Tutsie
Same as above: likely keep (4), outside chance at 5.
FS:
Thomas
Scott
Simpson
SS:
Blackmon(lock)
Cross(lock)
Denbow
Camp Bodies:
Dabo
Brooks
Tutsie
Thomas roster spot is in serious jeopardy I think. He will have to compete with Scott and Simpson for a spot or 2. Likely Cross or Blackmon coming over to start? Potentially a veteran FS as well.
Position Battle FS1/2:
Thomas
Scott
Simpson
Vet FA?
Blackmon and Cross could end up starting at both spots. That's where I think it sits as of today. A lot can change. Going to add Denbow into the #4 Safety position battle. 2 spots up for grabs.
Position Battle S4:
Denbow
Possible FA Additions:
Simmons
Diggs
Eddie Jackson
Hyde
What's everyone's thoughts on these groups?
Agree with the locks, position battles, FA possibilities?
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8 hours ago, Scott Pennock said:
Trent Pennix played RB/FB/TE at N.C. State - could we be incorporating an actual FB into the offense? He is only 6'1" and 234 pounds so very much NOT the mold of our typical tight ends?
Just thought about it this morning as I was reevaluating things.
Maybe he could be a big 3rd or 4th RB, with the ability to line up and lead block?
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21 minutes ago, r a y s k i said:
We need to give a call to Justin Simmons, would round out this offseason nicely
I really do think we will be bringing in Diggs. Diggs has just kept himself inserted in Colts news.
Probably not Simmons though.
Definitely think we will bring in a vet RB, sometime from now to beginning of camp.
With how the draft played out I see a vet CB as well to battle for that 4th outside spot.
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33 minutes ago, krunk said:
I want to see how he responds bc he doesn't seem like the type to take it well being behind another player for long.
He's so explosive, I think they will find ways to get him on the field early, if he hasn't won the #2 spot by then.
4 WR sets, Mitchell and Pierce on outside, Pittman and Downs inside.
Maybe throw a 5 WR set out there with Gould (since this is his thread, lol)
I agree though, I don't think he will want to play behind someone for long. I actually like Pierce, but I anticipate Mitchell passing him up sooner than later, as long as he shows some maturity and gets to work.
Pierce definitely has a leg up early, being in the system for a year already.
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2 hours ago, Two_pound said:
If those are Craig Young's pro day results on that chart I'm not sure a linebacker that only does 13 reps at 225 can play in the nfl. That indicates a lack of functional strength and, what's more, a lack of time and effort in the gym. When Kedon Slovis was a Pitt for 1 year I think he got benched part way through the season, he started out really good for 4 or 5 games but then things went downhill if I remember correctly. I don't think any of these udfa's will make the team, heck, Abraham and Laulu probably won't this roster is stacked and deep.
No doubt, think there are very few top 53 spots to be earned. Will be a hard team to make. Ballard discussed that last night in presser. See below.
I do however, think QB#3 is up for grabs. Ehlinger is old regime and in contract year. Imagine Steichen wants his own guys in there to grow and learn, with 4 years on rookie deal left.
Same way with LBer, I think there are a couple spots there that can be had, especially if you can cover somebody.
As far as bench press reps, not too concerned about it. Leonard only had 17. If he can play some coverage, he will have a shot.
Abraham really just has 1 guy to beat out, Lammons for the backup nickel. Unless they think he can play outside more, then he would also have a chance at 4th outside CB.
I don't think there's anywhere for Laulu. Imagine the plan for him is to get him in the building and to the practice squad this season.
Look forward to going over all groups and really narrowing it down. Locks, position battles and outside players to add.
Post Draft presser:
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Something else to lock away in the brain.
Ballard got 4 players, while trading down and still getting Mitchell.
2.46 - **traded for #52, #142, #155
**2.52 - $1,219,297 - Adonai Mitchell, WR, Texas
**5.142 - $883,167 - Anthony Gould, WR, Oregon State
**5.155 - ****traded for #164, #201
****5.164 - $869,254 - Jaylin Simpson, S, Auburn
****6.201 -$838,489 - Micah Abraham, CB, Marshall
That trade down, then subsequent trade down again, allowed us to get who we were more than likely going to grab anyway(Mitchell). While also being able to throw 3 more darts, including a second WR, and 2 other guys that I think have a good chance of earning one of this last spots at CB, Safety.
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12 minutes ago, Scott Pennock said:
Craig Young was an Ohio State recruit and transferred to Kansas - both he and the new draftee Jaylon Carlies have a similar athletic profile with a 4.50ish 40, with 33 and 34 inch arms (respectfully) and both are 6'3" and 226ish......I think Craig Young has a chance as a back-up/teams guy if he shows out in camp. Stuard, McGrone and Olubi aren't exactly world beaters after all. Those measurements (BTW) are very much in the mold of the Okereke/Leonard/Speed size/length/speed ratios.........
Agree, I think Young has a pretty decent chance to stick.
We need multiple LBers that can cover. Hopefully Carlies and him both make the squad and help underneath and over the middle
14 minutes ago, Scott Pennock said:Trent Pennix played RB/FB/TE at N.C. State - could we be incorporating an actual FB into the offense? He is only 6'1" and 234 pounds so very much NOT the mold of our typical tight ends?
Yeah he has a crazy build. FB would make some sense for him. Not sure if we will carry one of those or not?
19 minutes ago, Scott Pennock said:Isaiah Coe did 34 bench reps and is a bit bigger...........if he proves stronger at the point of attack than Eric Johnson, he could earn a spot at the back end of the roster as well.
I don't think Eric Johnson has a very good chance of keeping a roster spot. To many guys there now.
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38 minutes ago, dw49 said:
Add Craig Young LB Kanas
Craig Young is pretty interesting.
Ohio State transfer
Indiana kid from Fort Wayne.
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20 minutes ago, dw49 said:
Add Craig Young LB Kanas
thanks
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Was this who Jaime was talking about in the draft video?
Makes sense, seems he got his guy.
Cool they let him make the call.
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love the on the line videos
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7 minutes ago, Yoshinator said:
I agree with the vet signings. We have some cap space. I think that was intentional where Ballard plans to sign FAs to fill in the holes from the positions he couldn't draft during the draft.
I have us with $26m, top 51, once rookies are signed.
$2.5m for Practice Squad
$3m for final roster adjustments, once top 51 goes to top 53
$9m in season spending cash.
That's $14.5m off the cap and leaves:
11.5m in spendable cap, still have Mo to increase this if we want to.($5.9m)
RB - Cam Akers - $2.5m
FS - Q. Diggs - $7.5m
CB - Witherspoon - $4m
That's $14m, but $2.955, drops off for top 51. $11.045m
So, could make that work.
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I am anxious to start diving into discussion about the individual groups.
Locks
Position battles
Who else to add.
Definitely think we will be adding a vet RB, and a vet FS, potentially a vet CB as well.
Outside of that, there isn't much of a need. We have everywhere need, just have to let the players battle it out for those (69) roster spots(top 53, (16) practice squad).
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7 minutes ago, chad72 said:
Do we really think there is going to be a competition for the #3 QB spot or is it just camp bodies, the QBs signed as UDFAs. and Ehlinger has the inside track no matter what?
I think Slovis has a legit chance to take the #3 spot.
I really think Bean is just a favor, Ballard's son played QB at Kansas.
I don't think Ehlinger has that spot locked up in the slightest. Contract year, time to start to develop a new backup QB.
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Coe ran a 4.99 40, weighing in at 311 pounds, 6'2".
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No link yet but bolded below
UDFA:
QB - Kedon Slovis, BYU
QB - Jason Bean, Kansas
DL - Jeblonski Green, South Carolina State
K - Spencer Shrader, Notre Dame
WR - Xavier White, Texas Tech
TE - Trent Pennix, North Carolina State
OG - Dalton Tucker, Marshall
DT - Isaiah Coe, Oklahoma
Tryout:
TE - Malcolm Epps, Pittsburgh
OT - Jake Hornirook, Duke
RB - Justin Strong, Southern Illinois
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4 minutes ago, Yoshinator said:
Good. Glad we're giving a RB a tryout. I'll check him out.
@Yoshinator, I fixed the link.
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3 minutes ago, Yoshinator said:Also, if we are at 91, maybe we cut Cox now.
We're not at 91, we might just be able to have 91, depending on Dabo. I've seen it both ways(still has exemption/doesn't have exemption)
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I don't know if this is it or not, but we are at (90) on the roster count. Dabo exemption status still not 100% confirmed so might have (91)
UDFA:
QB - Kedon Slovis, BYU
QB - Jason Bean, Kansas
DL - Jeblonski Green, South Carolina State
K - Spencer Shrader, Notre Dame
WR - Xavier White, Texas Tech
TE - Trent Pennix, North Carolina State
OG - Dalton Tucker, Marshall
Tryout:
TE - Malcolm Epps, Pittsburgh
OT - Jake Hornirook, Duke
RB - Justin Strong, Southern Illinois
OP updated as usual.
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2024 Post Draft Updated Roster + Cap Space Discussion Thread. **OP updated w/ UDFA. Secondary discussion btm pg 2**
in Colts Football
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Yeah, I believe tomorrow that date, but it doesn't matter, because we are not projected to get any comp picks.
Minshew + Moss got wiped out by Davis + Flacco