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Whatever it was is in the Pierce thread I imagine. Probably was something to to with like "drop per target rate %" or something of that affect. Something else about 1.5 of his 4 targets a game are classified as in catchable balls. He averaged 2.07 catches a game(this is off recollection and based of stats after the 16 game, not the 17th), out of the other 2.5(out of 4) remaining targets a game.

These guys catch a lot of slack for really playing very well. Ekubam has been a bargain and a great find. Balled all year. Ballard doesn't get credit for those, just the bad moves. Again #37 might not look good, but that is the 5th best #2 DE in the NFL Dayo put up some good sack numbers but PFF clearly is grading him roughly in other aspects. Hopefully he can turn this year into double sacks next year. Actually like the potential of Land and Leo as well Lewis played great this year, hopefully we get him back on a nice little 2yr deal I know a lot of people are wanting to add a high dollar FA or high draft pick to the room? I'm just not so sure, especially the FA. Buckner, yes. Johnson, no. Adebawore, idk? Was just a development year, so not worried about the grade. Will watch what he does next year. I really think Grover is probably the most important FA to re-sign. This room is so depleted right now. Things will definitely be addressed here, whether via retain Grover, sign/trade, or high draft pick Speed is our best LB, but I feel we need better players at both our nickel LB spots. Franklin thinks way to much of himself, that video of him saying "now I'm one of the best, now I need to be #1). Sentiments great, problem is the complete deniability of being just an average LB. One who can get a lot of tackle(179), but only have (3TFL). 1 out of 60 tackles was for a loss. (Bobby Wagner had 11 in 180 tackles, 1 out of 16 for reference). Franklin is liability in coverage. I think Harrison maybe slides back to S next season? I still like Olubi, so hopefully he can continue to improve Room needs some attention Be really nice to get Flowers back. Have a solid 4-5 there with Baker bringing in the backend. Can always hope more time developing pays off. Need to bring Moore back. If not Lammons might be running the slot. I actually like Lammons think he could be a good player. Speed a rookie too, more time in the system, who knows? Cross should be locked in a starting role next year. He has went through the Gus process and has seemed to be ready to take off. Thomas is ok to be depth, not much more. Hopefully Scott recovers from injury and can come show what he is about. Blackmon is an interesting case. With the lack of depth in the room it's tough to let walk, but his performance has just been middle of the pack and he is frequently injured.

This is a good point. Like I said, I hope he is back, just looking at it as the possibility he might not. With his comment, the likelihood is he will be franchise tagged. Where it goes from there at that point? Who knows. If no one offers him any money, I guess he can come play here on tag or take whatever deal we offered. The more likely thing to happen is, he will receive multiple offers. His agent will have a discussion with the Colts on if he would rather go to one of those teams or stay with Colts. Equal money or not. If he wants to go to one of those other teams the GMs will work on compensation before Pittman signs offer sheet. If he signs offer sheet we would get (2) 1st if we didn't match. That's not going to happen, so they would workout draft compensation instead of signing the offer sheet.

Not too much to say here, everything now and for the next foreseeable future rides on Richardson. Can't wait till the fall. I think Minshew walks and we bring in a vet to compete with Ehlinger for the backup spot. Taylor with Richardson.... What we were all so anxious for this season. Their paths barely crossed. Hull looked good through camp and even in his limited action Team had Scott working at HB, imagine that is still the case. Goodson will be competing for a job on the top 70(active + PS) I think Moss walks for a better opportunity, although I would love to keep him if feasible. Elephant in the Room Pittman. Ideally he will be back, but I can easily see a scenario where he is traded. We are alreyhalf way down the road in my opinion. I think Pierce is set to explode on the scene, he has been patient and I think it is about to pay off big. Dulin being back is bigger than it seems, as he is very versatile, depending on recovery from injury. This will be a room that receives great attention. Whether that's just resigning Pittman , or drafting/trading for someone Room is pretty much in order, short of staring at Bowers at our spot draft night Imagine we move on from Cox, whether that be by trade or just releasing him to save $5.9m. Ogletree will be something to watch with his pending case. What can you say about this room? Starting OL looks like this: Raimann - #7 Nelson - #15 Kelly - #8 Fries - #33 Smith - #5 See some might look at #33 as a bad thing, but if every team has a #1 guard. #33 would be the best #2 guard in the league. Kudos to Tony Sparano Jr. I really like that Freeland got so much work(not worried about his grade), will only help his development with some S+C this off-season

Bowers would be nice, but we would need to recoup a couple later picks for 1 or 2 of our TEs. I think Steichen really likes Mallory, after all he is the 1 he had a hand in on drafting.

He very well could be, and I would be completely on board with it. Just reading the room, it seems like he wants to get out West? Is it contract posturing? Potentially, but I feel there is a lot of fire with this smoke. So he wants to see a what's out there, so that means he probably isn't going to accept any long term offer from the Colts, unless it's top, top of the market(yes , 2 tops) offer. So the Colts have no choice to place the $21.7 tag on him. Then he sees what offers are out there. You know the process, no need explaining Then it's just a roll of the dice at that point if he is back in my opinion. And tbh, I think that is pretty much where we are at currently.

PFF cumulative grades for players under contract for 2024: Offense: QB: Richardson - 52.2 Ehlinger - 60(NR) RB: Taylor - 74.9(24/63) Goodson - 57.3(NR) Hull - 65.7(NR) Scott - (NR) WR: Pierce - 58.1(97/128) Downs - 70.3(47/128) Dulin - (NR) Montgomery - 60.6(NR) Fernea - 58.4(NR) Winfree - 52.8(NR) Cleveland - (NR) TE: Cox - 61.4(35/73) Granson - 56.8(48/73) Mallory - 66.9(NR) Ogletree - 66.2(24/73) Woods - (NR) Murray - (NR) Tomlinson - (NR) OT: Raimann - 82.3(7/84) Smith - 83.3(5/84) Freeland - 44.2(80/84) Witt - (NR) OG: Nelson - 70.8(15/81) Fries - 61.2(33/81) Sills - 59(NR) Hambright - 65.4(NR) Kidd - (NR) OC: Kelly - 76.2(8/37) French - 48.4(NR) Defense: DE: Paye - 74.3(37/114) Ekubam - 84.4(16/114) Dayo - 57.4(92/114) Land - 70.6(NR) Leo - (NR) DT: Buckner - 81.8(13/131) Johnson - 30.5(131/131) Adebawore - 27.5(NR) LB: Franklin - 60.9(64/83) Speed - 65(50/83) Olubi - 56.2(NR) Harrison - 64.9(NR) Stuart - 32.6(NR) McGrone - 82.7(NR) Anderson - (NR) Ajiake - (NR) CB: Flowers - 66.4(60/128) Brents - 63.2(72/128) Jones - 58.1(90/126) Lammons - 53.6(NR) Speed - 72(NR) Baker - 51.8(111/128) S: Thomas - 58.2(80/99) Cross - 71.8(25/99) Denbow - 50.4(NR) Scott - (NR) Dabo - (NR) Brooks - (NR) Tutsie - (NR) SPT: K: Gay - 68.8(NR) P: LS: Luke Rhodes - (NR) Free Agents:(kind of listed in order of importance) Pittman - 77.7(27/128) Stewart - 76.2(18/131) Moore - 77.4(18/128) Blackmon - 68.3(39/99) Lewis - 73.7(42/114) Moss - 66.9(43/63) Sanchez - 64.4(25/33) Minshew - 62(34/42) Bryan - 51.3(98/131) Martin - 62.1(NR) Anderson - (NR) Sermon - 56.6(NR) McKenzie - 64.7(NR) Will give my take, on the individual positions, here later or tomorrow.

That's actually a really good observation. 1st glance it may seem(and still might be true) as if Brown did something worse, so he got waived. Kicked out of here essentially. But in reality(or not), McKenzie is receiving the harsher punishment, because he had a better chance of getting on a playoff roster, if waived right now.

Pittman has said he wants to test the market. The only way to do so if for the Colts to tag him or let him walk and hope he signs back. So you're already past stage one from the get go. He wants to see what's out there. That is literally how all these trades usually work. Make the trade and sign the extension. Seriously, that's what happens. Trade a 1st for Buckner sign him to $80m+ extension Eagles trade 1st and 3rd for Brown sign to 4yr $100m extension Could go on and on, but I don't see the purpose. Teams trade draft capital for players and sign them to big deals in the process, all the time.

I just used the AJ Brown trade as reference. 1st(18)and 3rd(101) So 1st and 4th sounds reasonable.

This is where I would like our roster to look like going into free agency. Current 2024 Cap Space: Spotrac - Not Updated with new moves (including 2023 rollover) OtC - $58,472,587 (including 2023 rollover) Re-signed 2024 Roster:(66 under contract) Offense:(31) QB:(2) Anthony Richardson, Sam Ehlinger RB:(4) Johnathan Taylor, Evan Hull, Tyler Goodson, Zavier Scott WR:(7) Alex Pierce, Josh Downs, Ashton Dulin, DJ Montgomery, Juwann Winfree, Tyrie Cleveland, Ethan Fernea TE:(7) Mo Alie-Cox, Andrew Ogletree, Jelani Woods, Kylen Granson, Will Mallory, Jordan Murray, Eric Tomlinson OT:(4) Bernard Raimann, Braden Smith, Blake Freeland, Jake Witt OG:(5) Quentin Nelson, Will Fries, Josh Sills, Arlington Hambright, Lewis Kidd OC:(2) Ryan Kelly, Wesley French Defense:(32) DE:(5) Samson Ebukam, Kwity Paye, Dayo Odeyingbo, Tyquan Lewis, Titus Leo DT:(4) Deforest Buckner, Grover Stewart, Adetomiwa Adebawore, Eric Johnson LB:(8) EJ Speed, Zaire Franklin, Grand Stuard, Isaiah Land, Cameron McGrone, Segun Olubi, Liam Anderson, Austin Ajiake CB:(7) Dallis Flowers, JuJu Brents, Kenny Moore, Jaylon Jones, Ameer Speed, Chris Lammons, Darrell Baker Jr S:(8) Julian Blackmon, Rodney Thomas, Nick Cross, Daniel Scott, Trevor Denbow, Marcel Dabo, Kendell Brooks, Michael Tutsie SPT:(3) K: Matt Gay P: Rigoberto Sanchez LS: Luke Rhodes Remaining Free Agents: QB: Gardner Minshew - walk RB: Zach Moss - walk Trey Sermon - walk for now, maybe re-sign later WR: Michael Pittman - tag $21.7m + Trade(1st + 4th) Isaiah McKenzie - walk OC: Danny Pinter - walk(injured maybe re-sign once healthy?) DE: Tyquan Lewis - re-sign 2yrs $8m, $3.5m year 1 Jake Martin - walk Genard Avery - walk(injured maybe re-sign once healthy?) DT: Grover Stewart - re-sign 2yrs $20m, $9m year 1 Taven Bryan - walk CB: Kenny Moore - re-sign 3yr $27m deal, $8m year 1 S: Julian Blackmon - re-sign 2yr $14m real, $6m year 1 P: Rigoberto Sanchez - re-sign 1yr $2.5m So for this exercise Pittman's cap number has no effect as he is traded. And let me preface this with, I am fine with Pittman back(hope he is), I just think it plays out this way. He wants to test the market, which he can if we franchise him(seems only option at this point), then I think he will get an offer on the market that Ballard doesn't want to match and he takes the picks. As it seems Pitt might want to head West right now? Now new re-signed players 1st year cap hits total: $29m (5) players will fall off the top 51 in the moves for a total of: $4.6m Net cap hit for (5) re-signed players: $24.4m Subtract that from current cap space and the new cap space heading into Free Agency would be: $34m That's prior to any restructures/extensions or $5.9m saved releasing/trading Mo Alie-Cox. Roster would look like above, and draft picks would look like this: Draft Picks: 1.15 1st - (1st from Pittman trade) 2.43 3.74 4.109 4th - (4th from Pittman trade) 5.144 6.184 7.230 Would have (24) roster spots left entering the draft, in which we have (9) selections to start this scenario. I'm sure Ballard would move around and pick up a couple more. That leaves (15) or less roster spots. 4-5 FAs:⁠- and (10) UDFA. Thoughts? What would you do with those draft picks? Keep both 1st? Options are endless right now. Exciting times. I love this time of the year, truly.

It's true, his Net and Gross yardage per kick have never been higher, but his percentage of inside the 20 is down 12+10% to a career low. Could be indicative of field position? Possibly some but, he needed to help fill the field more. Haven't really looked at other punters stats, nor plan to. Actually I lied, I just did. He ranks: Gross Yards - 48.3(12th) Net Yards - 42.8(9th) IN20% - 30.9(27th) I know PFF graded him low(bottom 10), that inside the 20% must be a big part of their scoring. I can say watching there was a lot of times he could've really helped flip the field and it was just a good punt. Needed more great punts. I'm not against, nor advocating for, Sanchez to be back. I am fine either way,

Good job Coach Legendary 206-29 at Alabama. Congrats Coach, try and kick back and relax a little.

https://www.colts.com/news/roster-moves-lewis-kidd-kendell-brooks-michael-tutsie-reserve-contracts "The Indianapolis Colts today signed safety Kendell Brooks, guard Lewis Kidd and safety Michael Tutsie to reserve/future contracts." will update OP and post above to reflect the changes.

I literally said it still counts regardless. What it doesn't do though, is increase the production he had on 108/109 catches. So great, his total is 4.7, but on more than 99% of his other catches, it is substantially lower. It is what it is. I just want him to do more with it when he gets it, more consistently. Do you have these actual numbers or are you just saying what you think? I found something from 2022, only showed top 5, none of these guys were on it. Maybe @Solid84can find those numbers? Chase played with an injured Burrow for the most part and a backup as well.

I just said I did as well and have said it before.

Higgins had 50 less targets than Pittman in Higgins highest targeted season. Not that hard to see that Pittman wouldn't get #1 targets when he is the #2. Even less targets with a #3 as good as Boyd and (2) RBs that are good out of the backfield. Bengals like to use their TEs as well. I'm talking about TDs, I'm taking about 1st downs, 1st downs on 3rd downs, broken tackles, YAC and more. His accumulation is ok, but it isn't efficient. He's really not. He gets a lot of catches, which accumulates YAC(513), but only 4.7yac per catch this season. And that's with a 75yd screen play, which counts, but brings the production on the other 108 catches to 4.03yac per catch Last year was 3.7 YAC per catch 4.0 YAC in 2021(with Wentz, who presses down the field also and was Pittman's best individual season) 7.3 YAC in his rookie season 2020, which was solid. With Rivers (best QB) For the record. I've stated I would give him a 5yr $100m deal or the tag. Just because his flaws are getting pointed out doesn't mean he's getting ran down. He has deficiencies and it's ok to point them out. I hope he is back, but he needs to step his game up once he gets the ball in his hands.

NFC (7) Green Bay Packers at (2) Dallas Cowboys (7-10pts) (6) Los Angeles Rams at (3) Detroit Lions(1-3pts) (5) Philadelphia Eagles at (4) Tampa Bay Buccaneers(7-10pts) AFC (5) Cleveland Browns at (4) Houston Texans(7-10pts) (6) Miami Dolphins at (3) Kansas City Chiefs(1-3pts) (7) Pittsburgh Steelers at (2) Buffalo Bills((7-10)

No one said he is a FA. He is a liability that is why we need another LB or 2. Not because he is a free agent. Also, to the separate point. Zaire has called himself the best LB in football. You think he is going to be happy at $3.4m next year? He may not ask for a raise, he may? Either way in 2025(which would qualify as my "next", part of "this year or next"), he will be a FA and want paid.

You can't use 2 years that had nothing to do with Gus as part of your outlier argument either. 2020 and 2021 has nothing to do with Gus. This is true as well. Brian Daboll said yesterday he thought Wink would be back, but had to go through process. Now Wink stepped down, but things are fluid and can change in an instant. Maybe Colts have some interest in Wink, they did bring him in for the HC interview (2nr interview if I remember correctly?), which O feel was a gauge to this exact scene are faced with now. As far as people talking about bringing in a playmaker at LB, it sounds great, but do you think Gus is going to take out the liability that is Zaire Franklin? That's my biggest concern with Gus, his stubbornness on personnel and scheme. My biggest worry for the Colts this year or next, is that the Colts pay Zaire Franklin a big contract. I feel if Gus is gone, the likelihood of that decreases. Gus will probably be back it seems, but stranger things have happened.

I think it matches what I see to a pretty good degree most the time. Of course there are things that don't make sense some times, but all in all, a pretty useful tool.

Thanks I forgot to go back and update my positional ranks today.

No, it's because there isn't enough targets to go around for him to get that many as a 2nd option.

Bottomline is, Pittman just doesn't do anything with his targets. I don't care who the QB is. You get that many opportunities you need to do something with them. Chase has almost twice the TDs in almost 1/2 the amount of targets and 1 less season. (3) fewer 1st downs gained in (219) fewer targets.

Because he wouldn't get 27% of the team targets. Pittman had 156 targets this year, Higgins has never had over 110, pretty much was his average coming into this year. So take Pittman numbers and divide his targets by 1/3. That's why he wouldn't get what you are purposing.