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23 minutes ago, jskinnz said:
My bad. I did not read your note clearly enough.
My reading comprehension is not in mid season form yet.
We are still not even in OTAs... tons of time until mid-season
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Damn, that's terrible. So young... RIP
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16 hours ago, jskinnz said:
Why don’t you want Thomas?I do. I just have fallen in love with Latu at this point.
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Urgh! I hate you!
I think I'm going all in on Latu. I think he will be great. Don't take this to mean I don't want BTJ.
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56 minutes ago, NFLfan said:
I think they could have gotten more. They panicked. Other teams got more for other players who are not as talented. As @stitches wrote, a team could have even used him as a running back. The Bears gave him away. I don't have the time now but I am sure I can find QBs with less talent and less promise who were traded for more.
Sam Howell, 4th and 6th got traded for a a 3d and 5th... if you use the regular trade chart that's equivalent to late 3d or early 4th round pick.
Pickett and a 4th were traded for 3d and 2 7ths... this is the equivalent of a mid-4th.
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11 minutes ago, DattMavis said:
I'll admit, I'm living off the Kool-aid right now. If AR is healthy (and gets back to form), he wins at least one MVP in his career.
At least 1 MVP and at least 2 Super bowls...
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12 minutes ago, MFT5 said:
i love AR BUT what exactly is the graph annotating ??
It says on the graph - scramble % on the X axis, yards per scramble on the Y axis.
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Let the hype continue:
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Here's some food for thought... Just how much did Ballard want Sneed? Because Sneed is a CB who played a ton of press-man with the Chiefs... Is Ballard moving away from the off-coverage that he seems to like? Or at the very least - is he trying to diversify the coverage we are playing a bit? If so... again, Kool-Aid played the most press-man and at a high level from any player in the draft(he has over 500 snaps in press-man the last 2 seasons). The other one is... Arnold(over 300 snaps in press last season and a half), but he's a bit under the 32" arm length threshold.
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11 minutes ago, richard pallo said:
I think Ballard would be more inclined to trade for a DE than a WR especially since he tried for Hunter. Eagles just gave Reddick away and Burns went for a 2nd and a fifth. He’s the same age as Burns. So I’m not a sure 1st would be necessary. He would do an extension like he did with Buckner. I would bet Dallas would take our 15th like the 49’ers took our 13th for Buckner. They aren’t feeling the same pressure though as SF. On the other hand they want to sign Dak. They might decide they can not afford both. So I like your thinking. Timing is everything. Getting Parsons would be a difference making acquisition.
Yeah, I'm not certain about the compensation. It's really hard for me to gauge what different players are worth when you have to give them a top money contract in addition to the picks. The league is all over the place with those... Some get 2 firsts, others that I would have expected to get 2 1sts, get a 1st and some change... But yah, my point is Ballard should be on top of all those possibilities and probing for a potential opening to get one of those players while we have Richardson on his rookie contract.
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I had not considered this before today, but I listened to an episode of The Draft Show(this is Dallas Cowboys show about the draft) and they are not expecting this to happen or something but they did mention potential possibility of trading Micah Parsons(their reasoning was - their team is becoming harder and harder to maintain and they have started losing a lot of players to FA without obvious replacements... they need picks and they need to refresh their roster with cheap high level talent).
We have discussed the possibility of trading for a top tier receiver, but we are talking about Ballard here... is really a receiver more likely position to trade for? Or is a DE? Especially since we know he tried to go for Danielle Hunter at top of the market money? If Dallas decided they cannot afford Parsons going into what would be the record-setting DE contract of the league... would you be willing to 1. give him that record setting DE contract to Parsons? and 2. give Dallas what it would take(very likely 2 1st round picks?
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In the spirit of the decades old friendship between the owners of the Colts and the Bears I give @jvan1973 the right of first refusal to a trade up to no. 9(Bears pick)...
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5 minutes ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:
He just signed Lewis. Signed Grover to a big contract. Then paid Davis good money. I feel 100% he isn’t taking a DT. Now if for some reason Turner falls an edge maybe. But I doubt that is happening. There will be elite offensive weapons and probably some highly rated CB there.
I don't think we are taking a DT but not because we signed Lewis or Grover or Davis. If there is a reason to not take one of the top DTs in the draft IMO that reason is that they don't exactly fit what Ballard likes in his linemen(length).
BTW I would REALLY hope Ballard is not making decisions about the very top of the roster(top 15 picks) based on backups he's signed in FA.
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Usually against it. I would give up a 3d to move up for Odunze.
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16 minutes ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:
We are talking about this year. You can’t keep that many without cutting someone or another position is going to have no depth. Wasting a puck at 15 on a DT does not improve thr team this year.
We've seen Ballard cut players with not insignificant money or resources invested in them. He can easily just cut Taven Bryan after camp if we get a highly rated DT in the draft... Or hell even if a 3d-4th rounder outperforms Bryan... Or Adebawore... Or... Eric Johnson... Or multiple of them.
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1 hour ago, NFLfan said:
@VikingsFanInChennai @stitches had expressed interest in a second team, as the Bears have very few picks.
Because of the time zone difference I'd rather not pick up a second team, sorry...
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2 minutes ago, Superman said:
The bolded is an important qualifying factor. And of course, QB is a completely different discussion...
If you've genuinely evaluated the prospects, and you have two guys available that are pretty much equal on your board, and you default to the player who you expect can contribute the soonest, that's reasonable. I still think there's a potential adjustment for positional value, but that can vary depending on the prospects in question.
To me, getting the fullest value from the rookie contract is well down the list of considerations. There are too many factors that cannot be predicted -- performance, injury, etc.
Plus... if the rookie is top tier talent (of the type you would regret not giving more snaps in year 1), he would very likely find himself a way into those snaps anyways. And this is especially true when our rotation at DE, for example, is nothing to write home about.
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9 minutes ago, Superman said:
I don't understand this way of thinking.
When you draft a player in the first round, they sign a four year contract, with an option for a fifth year. If the player is as good as you hope, then the intention is likely to sign them to a second contract for another 4-5 years. So if you hope that this player is a foundational piece of your roster for the next decade, then why would you be so absorbed in the player's playing time in Year 1?
Specific to the Colts at DE, we do not have a game changing pass rusher right now. I like Kwity and Dayo, but so far, they aren't foundational pieces. They're both going into contract years, depending on whether the team picks up Kwity's option. And we have Ebukam, who is also good, but not a game changer. There's no reason any of these players can't be challenged for playing time, especially in pass rush situations. Dayo and Lewis play DE, but also rotate at 3T, so that can be worked out. And there are injuries, which will open up playing time.
DE historically has a learning curve, even for good players. Kayvon Thibodeaux was the 5th pick in 2022, he played 14 games as a rookie, 444 pass rush snaps, and had 4 sacks. He played 17 games in 2023, 498 pass rush snaps, 13 sacks.
Ultimately, passing on a high level edge rush prospect because you're not sure he can start in Year 1 seems incredibly shortsighted.
Yep. Ideally you draft a player that high for the next 10+ year and not for their rookie year. BUT lately I've been thinking about something else - part of the appeal of the rookie contract is the limited money you are giving the player compared to the production they are giving you. It's not super high on my list of things to consider but losing on the value of one year of those 4-5 rookie deal years is not negligible. In most cases it probably won't influence my decision, but if 2 players have similar value in my estimation, I would probably choose the one for whom I project faster/easier path to contributing for my team.
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17 hours ago, Solid84 said:
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1 hour ago, richard pallo said:
So green is good, yellow is average and red is bad?
On the first one is the success-rate - green=good, yellow=average, red=below average
On the second one is the usage rate of each route. It shows what routes he ran the most with similar color designation - green=above average, yellow=average, red = below average.
32 minutes ago, lollygagger8 said:Sooooo...MHJ either loves or hates screens....got it lol
The second graph shows they didn't run a lot of screens for him, the first one shows on the few they ran he did well.
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Congrats to them!
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I just saw Pittman's "Reception Perception" charts... so here it goes:
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Here are some Matt Harmon "Reception Perception" charts for the top receivers:
And here's the best of them... look at this one for Rome:
According to Harmon Odunze is the first receiver he's ever charted that has completely green route tree everywhere. He runs every route and he get gets open on every single route.
BTW MHJ's chart is not as impressive, but he mentions he was doubled the most out of any receiver in this draft class and his chart is still really really good.
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2024 Gavin's Mock Draft - Participants (Any New as well) Invited!
in NFL Draft, Scouting, and Free Agent Talk
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No surprise. The Bears have already ran to the podium and are doing cartwheels and painting their nails 💅