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What if Dallas asks you to take on that 2024 salary for the 3d?

If you want to play them together... I'd probably try JPJ at RG rather than Kelly.

For whatever it's worth... Matt Miller said on Mina Kimes' podcast that he's hearing the Colts might take Worthy as the 4th WR in the draft. Said he's hearing "we need speed, we need speed" from the Colts. The thing is... Brian Thomas fits that description too... and so does AD Mitchell...

Colts get Powers-Johnson in R2 and you get a call from the Cowboys or Steelers asking for Ryan Kelly. They are offering #87(#84) for Kelly. Do you take it? What if it's not pick in the 80s(3d) but rather 119(PIT's 4th)?

I must have missed that. What did he say about his contract? Edit: I just saw it. Yeah... he seems like he wants to keep playing. Scratch that doubt in my previous post. Well... yeah. I guess... whatever Ballard decides, I'd be OK with it I think. BTW... is it possible we draft a new guy early(day 2) and we trade Kelly? Any contender needing a C?

The way I feel about it is - if the rumors about him considering retirement are true... maybe he will be OK with it and be a good mentor to the new guy in his final year and the Colts can give him a warm send off into retirement after the season. If he wants to keep playing... it will serve as motivation to show other teams that he still has it and they can give him another big contract. He doesn't strike me as a guy who will make huge problems or be malcontent of any sort. He might be disappointed, but I don't see that as a reason to not draft a guy we really like and think can be our center of the next 5-10 years...

The real question is... should we care if he does(in the long-term that is)? This is his last year under contract and he will be 32 by the start of the 2025 season... Ballard is absolutely within his rights to prepare the team with Kelly's successor, especially if we are feeling like we need to budget the expenses on the OL with impending contract for Raimann...

Some OL experts are suggesting there might be 10 starting centers in this draft... this would be insane if it happens.

Yeah, there are a lot of good WRs in this draft... I think even Ballard said in his presser he thinks WR is pretty deep this year.

I hope the half that like Odunze or Nabers more are all drafting ahead of us... might create some opportunities for us.

Yah, MHJ didn't test at any point during the off-season. He pretty much said after the season that he will be preparing for real football rather than underwear olympics and that he thinks his career is better served this way and if teams have questions about his athleticism they can watch his tape.

It's from the combine and verified pro day numbers if there are missing combine numbers. You need to have some number of tests and measurements in order to have a RAS score so maybe the players you assumed would be there didn't test... Who did you think would be there but isn't?

Yeah, I think you can cut down the list even further, but it's a good starting point. Ballard's last few drafts have been with average RAS of 9.5 or something of the sort. (2022 - 9.63, 2023 - 9.48) I'm not sure we can completely eliminate some players because of lack of length but we definitely can emphasize some with great length at certain positions - DL, LB, CB... Ballard has a history of drafting high arm length prospects at thsoe positions.

Huh? No... it's 2 separate tables that here show one next to the other so you see the school of the player on the row from table 1 and the name of the player on the same row from table 2. Just open the tween and see the full lists... actually ... here they are:

Here's a good list to follow for the Colts draft in general, not just for the 15th pick... players with the highest RAS in the draft:

Tyreek Hill ran 4.29 at his pro day... No idea what Waddle would have ran, he was still recovering from his injury that he returned to play in the playoffs with. Possible he runs somewhere in that range too? The problem is... there really aren't that many players who have ran so fast so the sample is not big. If we expand to other positions... you mentioned Champ Bailey and Chris Johnson. Tariq Woolen ran 4.26... which for his size is quite possibly the most impressive run of all of them.

Yeah, that's another option I was thinking about... With Wiggins it might be more important and more impactful for him to gain some strength and weight...

BTW, the comment "never pass on a great player even if it isn't a need" ... again.. can it be Byron Murphy(doubt it)? Can it be an OLineman?

(ooops, wrong thread... please delete mods)

Just be sure you type Kneeland's name correctly. Hope I don't lose points for botching his name

Yeah, It's either him or... another player they think highly of. It's hard to say from the outside. Might be Mitchell at CB? Might be one of the OLinemen? I feel like the biggest chance we get a blue chipper(on our board) to slip to us is probably an OT, because there are a lot of them that are highly ranked and there doesn't seem to be general consensus about them so it's possible the beauty in our eyes is still there at 15. Can you imagine this though... Mitchell and Thomas are there, a few of the EDGEs are there for us to pick and Ballard goes and picks... Troy Fautanu or Taliese Fuaga?

I don't see that happening. I think they are somewhat redundant.

This is a legit question that the Colts should ask themselves. Worthy left 2 of the games he played this last year because of big hits by defenders. Now he didn't miss significant playing time because of it, but I think it's a reasonable question to ask, especially when you see that his instinct is actually not to slide down or go out of bounds but to fight for extra yardage.

I was thinking a bit about what Ballard said in that clip from "Behind the Colts", about "he's not going to get much bigger". No idea if he was talking about Worthy... but if he is... he's right. Whether Worthy ends up playing at 165 or 176... this is still extremely small and light. Whether he's in the 1st percentile or 5th percentile of athlete's in weight in the league, this doesn't change the type of player and type of worries you would have about him with any significance. So... in a way, I kind of find that conversation a bit pointless. IMO the question should be - okay. he is small... and he will always be small. Can we work with that? And can we live with the risk of injury for that small of a player? And the answer can be no here... I'm not saying we necessarily need to take that risk.

Round 1 - #15 A. Xavier Worthy, WR, Texas B. Brian Thomas, WR, LSU C. Brock Bowers, TE, Georgia Round 2 - #46 A. Edgerrin Cooper, LB, Texas A&M B. Marshall Kneeland, DE, Western Michigan C. Jaden Hicks, S, Washington State Round 3 - #82 A. Troy Franklin, WR, Oregon B. Darius Robinson, DE/DT, Missouri C. Ben Sinnott, TE, Kansas State Round 4 - #117 A. Jalyx Hunt, DE, Houston Christian B. Mason McCormick, OG, South Dakota State C. Malik Washington, WR, Virginia Round 5 - #151 A. Beaux Limmer, OC, Arkansas B. Tanor Bortolini, OC, Wisconsin C. Isaac Guerendo, RB, Louisville Round 6 - #191 A. Decamerion Richardson, CB, Mississippi State B. Qwan'tez Stiggers, CB, Toronto C. Nick Gargiulo, OC, South Carolina Round 7 - #234 A. Millard Bradford, SS, TCU B. Mark Perry, FS, TCU C. Dalton Tucker, OG, Marshall BONUS: Will the Colts trade the #15 pick this year? A: Yes, they will trade back.