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Just now, Steamboat_Shaun said:
Someone who was drafted a round earlier than they should've been doesn't really qualify as a bust. Dorsett's production also doubled from his rookie year to second season, so the arrow's technically still pointed up. If he doesn't put it all together this year though, he's likely gone. I also wouldn't be surprised if Ballard has intentions of trading Dorsett after this signing.
I think he has the potential, he doubled his numbers thanks to Moncrief's injury but still did not completely step up in his absence the way you'd want a first round pick too. Kelvin Benjamin was picked around the same time the year before and had a stronger start to his career although injuries, both his and Cam's, have hurt him lately. Guys like Jordan Matthews, Davante Adams, Allen Robinson, and Jarvis Landry who were second round picks the year before have all been outperforming him as well.
I'm actually comparing the 2014 and 2015 WR drafts in the first couple rounds. 2014 also had Watkins, Evans, OBJ, and Cooks in the first round as well vs. 2015 which had Cooper, Kevin White, Davante Parker, Nelson Agholor, and Brashad Perriman all before Dorsett. 2014 was a monster year.
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21 minutes ago, Myles said:
I see it both ways.
Dorsett hasn't been given the chance to prove whether he was a bust as a first round pick or not.
However, it was a bust for the Colts to use a first round pick on him.
Thanks, this is what I have been saying. Except he did have a nice stretch with Moncrief out last year to prove himself and he had one big play in London and that was it.
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3 minutes ago, crazycolt1 said:
Yeah, it would be nice for all GMs to have hindsight when drafting.
Or just be realistic and find a balance between position of need and BPA like Brown or Collins who were both available.
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2 minutes ago, crazycolt1 said:
A WR has to have the ball thrown to him to show what he can do. Dorsett has yet to be in that position.
Am I saying he is a star? No, but he really has not been used enough to have a clear answer.
Correct, he is not a star. Thank you for agreeing with me. Shouldn't have drafted him in the first.
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2 minutes ago, crazycolt1 said:
He hasn't been used so how can anyone tell if he wasn't worth his draft position?
He is on a team who's QB has never had the time to go through his progressions. Luck looks for Hilton first and then dumps off to the TE position. Normally it takes a WR three years to learn to play in the NFL so his value hasn't been established.
He's had plenty of chances, especially with Moncrief injured last year, and he basically got one home run touchdown against the Jags. He can still contribute but he's a total first round bust.
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2 minutes ago, crazycolt1 said:
Calling a player a bust that hasn't had the chance to show what he can do is pre mature.
He might still be decent but for a first round pick after 2 seasons he obviously wasn't worth his draft position.
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1 minute ago, crazycolt1 said:
A player who can step up in the face of injury, which we need with Moncrief sound familiar?
Nowhere in that does it say I expected Moncrief to play injured. I said we are getting a guy who has proven he can step up when the person ahead of him is injured as he showed with Steve Smith two years ago.
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Just now, crazycolt1 said:
So Moncrief should have been playing with a broken leg? By the way he broke his leg on a freak play.
Where are you getting that I said Moncrief should be playing injured? It's football. Injuries happen and once they do a player may be more susceptible to injury than he was prior to it. We picked up a guy who performed great in Steve Smith's absence and now he is here in case one of our receivers go down.
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Kamar Aiken on a one year deal. Not sure of the $ yet.
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2 minutes ago, BProland85 said:
I think this signing was made purely on bringing in competition for both Moncrief and Dorsett. Ballard said he wants competition at all positions, and that will only make Moncrief and Dorsett better if they have to compete more for their starting jobs.
Chudzinski still loves using his TEs so I could still see Doyle and Swoope getting some good action.
He's also shown he can step up in the face of injury, which we need with Moncrief.
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5 minutes ago, Myles said:
I'm not sure why he fell out of favor last year. The previous year, he had 75 catches for 944 yards and 5 TD's.
Steve Smith was back last year.
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45 minutes ago, Luck12-to-Hilton13 said:
I could see the Panthers grabbing him as well.
Maybe, Greg Olsen is 32 but he is still one of the best
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27 minutes ago, Luck12-to-Hilton13 said:
The naïve part of me was hoping he would fall to 2nd or 3rd round. But realistically, I know that's not gonna happen.
I have a feeling the Giants will take one of them in the first. Dolphins got their guy or else I would have thought maybe they'd go Njoku
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1 hour ago, Luck12-to-Hilton13 said:
Would still like to grab TE OJ Howard out of Alabama in the draft, though.
No thanks, don't want to spend a high pick on someone like him or Njoku when we have glaring needs elsewhere and Doyle and Swoope are fine.
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On 3/19/2017 at 3:49 PM, Superman said:On 3/19/2017 at 0:35 PM, dw49 said:
If Holder is accurate , maybe about 16-17 mill left figuring the draft and keeping 3-4 mill on hand ? I'm thinking unless we signed Hankins who is said to be asking way too much money , we'll have a pretty good carry over. Same looks to be true for at least 8-9 other teams.
On 3/19/2017 at 3:49 PM, Superman said:We need a corner.
Didn't mean to quote Superman twice but just wanted to inform you guys in case you didn't know that WFAN in NY reported the Giants currently have the highest contract offer out to resign Hankins but he still wants more. I would not count him coming here but the Giants probably did not see themselves resigning JPP and Hankins this offseason either so never say never.
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2 minutes ago, Superman said:
Because of the incentives, I'm noting his cap hit as $4.5m. I doubt he hits them all, but might as well account for them now.
Definitely, especially since it is a one year deal, there is no reason not to include non-guaranteed money.
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Already updated by @Superman on the front page for Butler but a little more info:
Per Aaron Wilson, Darius Butler 3M, 1.5M bonus, 2.5M guaranteed, salary 1M guaranteed, 31,250 per game active, 1.5M Pro Bowl-PT, interception incentive
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17 minutes ago, Superman said:
One appearance wouldn't do it. I'm talking about his overall media strategy, which hasn't been anything different than anyone else. He did his introductory stuff when he got hired, then the Combine pressers, and that's it.
Basically, there's this sentiment that everything Ballard does is the opposite of everything Grigson did, and it's really not. There's not enough book on Ballard to contrast him with Grigson, in basically any way.
Same goes for judging his body of work. We have gotten national praise on his hire and some of the contracts he has handed out. It's still the honeymoon phase and we haven't drafted or played a game yet and he is everyone's darling. I am optimistic as is everyone else since we got the change we wanted, but we have to wait to make any fair assessment.
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17 minutes ago, Rick_Grimes said:
Overpaid.
This actually didn't happen.
He tweeted that he didn't sign anything and made fun of the NY media
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4 year deal, 17 mil/yr, 54 million guaranteed
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High quality %post
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Butler has been resigned, @TKnight24 posted in another thread where Stephen Holder has us at cap space. Apparently 30 mil not including Butler, Woods, or the money we accounted for to use on draft picks.
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Remove this thread from here please.
Colts are signing WR Kamar Aiken
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he had 33 catches including a 64 yarder against the Jags.