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26 of 46
313 Yards
2 TDs 2 Ints
5 Rushes 45 Yards
27-17 Texans
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Fair enough, however, let me ask you this. What if you are the coach of the Colts and you had to gameplan for a win. What would be your "keys" to the game?We're not New England. They have a really good run game, and they pass block really well. And that Brady guy is pretty effective in the pocket. We DO NOT match up well against the Texans, bottom line. Their front seven has a great advantage over our protection and blocking.
And on the other side of the ball, if we're not disciplined up front, they can dominate us on the ground like the Jets did.
I'm resigned to a loss this Sunday. Just not a good matchup for us.
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Here are my thoughts...
1. Houston and the Colts have had a similar schedule this year, with the exception of the Broncos in week three--a team that was just learning to play together under Manning, and the Ravens who are up and down.
2. They lost to New England and the Packers, and eaked out a win over the Lions and the Jags in a shoot out. They have shown that passing teams can go toe-to-toe with them.
3. Our strength is their weakness. They play man defense and our receiving corps is very fast and efficient. If we can allow Luck to have time, we stand a good chance.
4. We have been doing well against the run.
5. Davis will be asked to cover Johnson- our best bet to stop him.
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Does our team strengths match up well against Houston?
Recently, Houston has shown that their weakness is against teams that can spread the ball and pass intermediate and deep. This is our strength. Of course, the O-line must block well for this to happen and this is our weakness. We're not a strong running team, nor are we committed to the run.
Houston is a balanced team that can run very well and pass well. It will be a tough test for our defense.
What are your thoughts?
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To me, it's a matter of "when" and "if." When we address our O-line needs and defensive needs, and if Bowe is still available, then yes, let's sign him. He'll make our receiving corps better. But if we haven't yet addressed our main needs as a team, then it doesn't make sense. In other words, Bowe would be the gravy, but not the meat and potatoes.
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This thread is not going to lead to discussion. Someone should just close it now before it gets out of control.
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It could also be that we are better in the second half in general. Look back at most of our games and you'll see that we make halftime adjustments and flat out play better in the second half, especially in the fourth quarter. It could be that Shipley made a huge difference, but it also could be coincidence.
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Anyone know how it happened and how bad it may be?
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in this picture I still see a stupid mistake by Luck. Every week when we have our "press your Luck" I predict 2 INT's because he continues to make these mistakes. He's still due for another in the second half.Here's the Titans Touchdow that shouldn't have been.
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pick 6I'm not watching right now what happened???
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We gotta spread the ball around now. Make their defense work!
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How tall does Luck think Fleener is?
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25 of 41
286 Yards
1 TD
2 INTs
5 Rushes 34 Yards
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Thanks FJC, I think our work is done here.
Player/Coach Years Given Name Nicknames
Bruce Alexander 1989-1993 DB Bruce Edward Alexander
Bruce Alford 1967-1969 K Herbert Bruce Alford Jr.
Bruce Alford 1946-1951 E-DB Herbert Bruce Alford Sr.
Bruce Anderson 1966-1970 DE-DT Bruce Albert Anderson
Bruce Arians Coach
Bruce Armstrong 1987-2000 T-G Bruce Charles Armstrong
*Edited for length*
Bruce Tarbox 1961-1961 G Bruce P. Tarbox
Bruce Taylor 1970-1977 DB Bruce Lawrence Taylor
Bruce Thornton 1979-1982 DE-DT Bruce Edward Thornton
Bruce Thornton 2004-2005 DB Bruce Thornton
Bruce Threadgill 1978-1978 DB-QB Bruce Craig Threadgill
Bruce Van * 1966-1976 G Bruce Robert Van *
Bruce Walker 1995-1995 NT Bruce Romell Walker
Bruce Walton 1973-1975 T-G-C Bruce Edward Walton
Bruce Wilkerson 1987-1997 T-G Bruce Alan Wilkerson
Bruce Womack 1951-1951 G Bruce Larimore Womack -
I agree that in the games that we've won, the defense largely has played well. Wins usually are about TEAM effort, not just the QB.However, a case can be made that by the way we've been winning games late, that the QB has had a very large part in those wins. Anyone watching the Colts this year would have to agree that Luck has been clutch in the final minutes when given a chance for a win. It has been the defense that has afforded Luck those chances.Exactly how I feel.
As for the arguement about points, or lack there of: Luck leads the team in rushing TDs as well as passing TDs. So it would be great if the running game would chip in and help out in the points department. I agree that we need to score more, but disagree that it's just Luck's fault.
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They've also fired their old offensive coordinator, hired a new one and now Tom Moore is involved with the offense, somewhat. I still think that if Luck and our offense plays consitently well, we should win this game. We need to put points on the board, especially when we're in the red zone. Our defense will be fine, not good or great, but good enough to stop the Titans.
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Link... please...
Here is ESPN.com stat info on total team O...
Specifically 3rd down conversions.
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Statistical Comparison
I will attempt to compare Andrew Luck and RGIII based purely on their stats and the implications of their stats. For those who will say “the only stat that I care about is 8-4” that’s fine and all, it’s just that this post isn’t intended for you.
All information is based on stats as of December 4, 2012.
Their basic stat lines read as:
Andrew Luck- 279 of 503 Attempts 55.5% Completion 17TDs 16INTs 3596 Yards 76.1 Rating
Robert Griffen III 218 of 325 Attempts 67.1% Completion 17TDs 4 INTs 2660 Yards 104.4 Rating
Comparison on downs
RG3
1st Down 89 of 131 1301 Yards 67.9% Completion
2nd Down 71 of 102 792 Yards 69.6% Completion
3rd Down 52 of 85 520 Yards 61.2% Completion
4th Down 6 of 7 47 Yards 85.7% Completion
Luck
1st Down 114 of 208 1520 Yards 54.8% Completion
2nd Down 90 of 158 964 Yards 57.0% Completion
3rd Down 72 of 134 1059 Yards 53.7% Completion
4th Down 3 of 3 53 Yards 100.0% Completion
Third down conversion is another statistic of importance.
RG3 38% 3rd Down Conversion Percentage
Luck 46% 3rd Down Conversion Percentage (Among the highest in the league)
RG3 is best on 3rd Down and 0-2 Yards to go 6 of 7 85.7% completion % 140.8 QB Rating.
Luck in similar situation : 8 of 17 47.1% Completion % 62.4 QB Rating
Luck is best on 3rd Down and 11+ Yards to go 18 of 30 60.0% completion % 106.4 QB Rating
RG3 in similar situation: 13 of 23 56.5% Completion % 64.8% QB Rating
Passes Thrown
RG3
Behind the LOS 58 of 74 316 Yards 78.4% Completion
1-10 yards 95 of 145 862 Yards 65.5% Completion
11-20 Yards 41 of 58 874 Yards 70.7% Completion
21-30 Yards 7 of 13 199 Yards 53.8% Completion
31-40 Yards 0 of 3 0 Yards 0. 0% Completion
41+ Yards 4 of 11 246 Yards 36.4% Completion
67% Of RG3’s passes are within 10 yards of the LOS. RG3 has a higher completion percentage with throws 41+ yards. RG3 is more accurate at all levels of throws with the exception of passes 31-40 yards.
Luck
Behind the LOS 44 of 67 254 Yards 65.7% Completion
1-10 Yards 125 of 202 1205Yards 61.9% Completion
11-20 Yards 68 of 121 1153Yards 56.2% Completion
21-30 Yards 15 of 38 468 Yards 39.5% Completion
31-40 Yards 2 of 12 77 Yards 16.7% Completion
41+ Yards 1 of 9 18 Yards 11.1% Completion
53% of Luck’s passes are within 10 Yards of the LOS. Luck gains most of his passing yards between 1-20 yards from the LOS.
After a statistical review, it's evident that statistically, RG3 has had the better year. I am aware that statistics do not tell the entire story and that there are numerous other situations and intangibles to consider such as offensive systems, offensive line, defense, opponenets faced, wins, team pass attempts vs run attemps. Some of those things cannot be weighed evenly and calculated, so we're just left with statistics.
If I can infer some things from the stats, it's that RG3 is in a very precise offense and his accuracy is a great benefit to the system, while also benefiting from the system. Conversely, Luck is in a system that does ask him to throw the ball down the field more and therefore explains the amount of yards gained passing, and may also explain the high interception rate, as he is throwing into the heart of the defense more regularly. What is evident however, is that at most levels of throws down the field, RG3 does have a higher completion percentage. Although us Colts fans may argue for reasons why, we have to admit that we would love for Luck to be more accurate and throw less interceptions. An interesting note: The Redskins offense is very innovative and suits RG3 very well. As mentioned earlier, it's very precise offense, but when things do not work out and the team is faced with third and long, RG3 has a low conversion rate. This would lead me to think that his strength are throwing precise short routes, and more accurate very deep routes. The numbers seem to indicate that in passing downs, when asked to drop back and read a defense and make a throw 11+ yards, he has had his difficulties. Meanwhile, Luck has had his difficulties connecting on long passes of 41+ yards.
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Just thought that I'd like to touch up on the topic highlighted. I agree that ideally, Luck should be throwing the ball about 30 times per game, and then perhaps we would see more consistency from Luck and more balance from our offense.Through 12 games>
Luck: 22 total TDs & 25 total TOs, 55.5% completion ~42 passes per game
RG3: 23 total TD & 6 total TOs, 67.1% completion ~27 passes per game
I think its clear based on stats thus far RG3 is having the better rookie season - I'm still glad we have Luck though - IMO he is the better of the two, he just hasn't shown it yet.
We need to get Lucks attempts down toward 30 intsead of 50, then maybe the guy can start to become consistent!
Here is the problem: I do not think that Arians wakes up the morning of the game and decides, "Hey, maybe today we should just let Luck sling it about 50 times. Yeah, that'll be our gameplan" (not that you think he does). Instead, like you and I, he wants a balanced and effective attack. Our O-line can't pass block or run block. Donald Brown averages 3.9YPC and Ballard averages 3.7YPC. So for the time being, our best offensive weapons are Luck, Wayne, Hilton, Allen, Avery, Fleener, and Ballard. Luck is pretty much asked to keep throwing to win games, and for the most part, although unfair to him, he's been delivering.
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Let's not take this too seriously. They were pbviously joking about it. They have a right to laugh--they won the game, in large part due to this play.
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Newton broke the rookie passing record last year, so I don't think a comparison to Newton negates RGIII's ability to pass.But then people just ignore his passing ability?
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Luck does not have designed run plays, therefor he's a scrambling QB like Rogers etc... He runs when it's necessary.How does me bringing up skin color denote a lack of knowledge on my part?
I feel that's why people think he won't succeed and is compared to Vick or Newton. He runs. Yes. But So does Luck. I don't see Luck being referred to as a running QB.
Luck gets Compared to Peyton Manning, Aaron Rodgers etc.
I'm not a Griffin fan. I'm not really trying to argue thus I don't need to resort to race. I'm trying to understand what has made people annoint Luck as a peerless rookie QB.
Since I don't watch college football, I was ignorant and could not tell which one we should have drafted. Now that I have seen them both play, I am confused by how some were repulsed at the mere thought of drafting RG3 over Luck.
So please, someone tell me why Luck is better than RG3... and not because the Colts have a better record.
RGIII has designed RUN plays, thus a running QB like Vick and Newton, who also have designed run plays (Vick less recently). Really, it's not that hard to grasp this concept.
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I think that one of our priorities, aside from addressing needs on the defense, is improving our O-line. It will open up our running game and protect Luck. I hope that with the cap space that we have this upcoming year, and with our draft picks, we can address these areas. I think we're okay at RB for now. We'll be able to evaluate them once we have a good O-line in place.
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I agree that we do not emphasise the run nearly enough. It would be great if we could have a run/pass balanced attack. However, I do feel that in the games that we have been behind in, our running game was not as effective and we abandoned it too early, which caused us to be more one dimensional.
There were several attempts in this past game where we went from 2nd and 8 to 3rd and 11 or whatever the actual down and distance was. The point is that the run at times actually worked against us. This in my opinion is mainly due to BA calling a short receiver screen for 3-4 yard gains and then immediately after calling a run. It's too obvious and everyone knows what's coming--especially the opposing defenses.
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