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  1. Please excuse my ignorance, but wouldn't it work the other way as well, so that the Colts would also recieve money from games away?

    It makes no sense to me, why the organization would take such a stance...

  2. I can't see us picking at #1 next year, but we'll probably pick early.

    We're at a point where we're rebuilding the team for the future, new offensive & defensive system and a lot of young players untested at NFL level. We won't get anywhere near the playoffs, and I'm okay with that as long as we're building for the future.

    To the point - I agree that what we've done this offseason, has been close to an A grade. Great draft and several solid FA's brought in.

    The biggest improvement to our defense this year will be an improved offense. We will have possesion of the ball longer, and put more points on the board. Remember that Luck is not Painter.

    I can see us winning between 3 and 7 games, perhaps even 8.

  3. I don't think safety is major concern for Grigson/Pagano.

    Pagano coached Zbikowski in Baltimore, so he knows exactly what he's getting, and I'm sure Grigson feels the same way.

    He's no Ed Reed, but he's a solid NFL player as is Bethea.

    When it comes to the draft, Amerson/Woods stands out to me along Manti Te'o.

    - Woods would be a great weapon for the future, and the thought of him on the same team as Luck is very appealing to me.

    - Amerson would fill a position of great need for us @ CB. That is easily the major reason why he's on the list, being (arguably) the best @ his position. What goes against Amerson, to me, is that the CB pool is very deep next year, and quality @ the CB position could be snapped up in round 2 & 3.

    - Manti Te'o is a beast, pure and simple.

  4. There's just no way we'll make the playoffs.

    We're a vastly improved team, compared to last year, but still a new group of players, with several key players being rookies, a new firsttime head coach and coaching staff as well as a new defensive scheme and a completely new O-line.

    Add the issues with our secondary to the equation as well, and it's hard to imagine the Colts winning more than 5 or 6 games next year. But as long as we're improving and building for the future, it's fine by me.

  5. IF he's as good as Ngata (or will be in a year or two) we should pick him. Regardless of other needs.

    Truly elite players, like Ngata, is what we really need, not just picking the best available CB/WR/OLB or whatever position where we have a need. So if there's someone in the draft that could end up being a true top 20 player in the NFL, regardless of position, that's who we should grab.

    That said, and I really like this guy, I don't really see us picking him. He will be a early first round pick for sure, but we won't pick him.

    I still believe that Chapman is a steal, and that he'll do fine for us.

  6. The mere fact that a player can be cut to avoid paying parts of the contract undercuts your entire argument. Any money "postponed until later" would have been required to be guaranteed by Freeney's agent, otherwise his agent committed the most grievous of malpractice.

    No team is going to say "lets pay him another $14M to get $3M of ability." It's no different than owning a house with an adjustable mortgage during the housing crisis; if the value of your house is plummeting and the cost of your house is going up, you're going to sell before you owe more than your house is worth, it doesn't matter the value you were getting the first 3-5 years.

    (and no, Freeney won't appreciate in value over the next 10-15 years).

    No one in the industry takes your perspective. No one.

  7. That said, we'll still need upgrades at DE

    Hard to disagree on that point. But then again, we could use quality at a lot of position like DE, OLB, ILB, CB, WR, RB as well as at our D-line. After all, there's a reason why only one Colts player (Freeney) was selected (@ 91) is in the NFL.com Top 100 this year. That tells a story as well. In order to get back to being a team that almost always went to the playoffs, you need more players who are among the very best at what they do, no matter if they're pass rushers, recievers, CB's or O/D-linemen.

    I would however point out that having top class weapons on offense, is just as vital.

    If you want players that put points on the board, you need to get the best talent available. With an aging Reggie Wayne, even if he is still a very good player, an Austin Collie that we have some concerns about with regards to concusions and an expiring contract and a player like Avery that's returning from a serious injury + some TE rooikes (even if they seem like interesting prospects) and WR rookies (all late round picks) giving us depth at WR, it should be clear that Luck doesn't have a top class gallery of targets.

    It might do for this season and hopefully some of the WR rookies will grow way beyond what could be expected, but it doesn't exactly look like we have an offense that will set the league on fire for years to come.

    So what's more important? Putting points on the board, or preventing the opposition from doing it?

    A top WR prospect, think A.J. Green/Julio Jones, would be very welcome in my opinion, and you don't get those in round 4 and beyond, very often. The same thing could be said about RB.

    I have no doubt that Grigson and Pagano would love to improve our defense, both our pass-rushing and our secondary, but I'm also quite sure that they realize that we need players who will put points on the board. That's why I'm convinced that Grigson will go with what he percieves to be the best player available. If he thinks the best player available is Woods, then he'll pick him. If he feels that Amerson is the best option, he'll take him. Same goes for Te'o, Lolutelei etc. He'll get the guy he thinks will improve our line-up the most for the future, and not only focus the draft on what part of the team that could use an upgrade right now.

    By the way, I think that Chapman could very well turn out to be one the best picks, out of all players picked by all teams, in this years draft. Getting him that late was a steal, and if his knee holds up, he could very well be a top class NT for the future.

  8. The point I'm making should be clear as crystal. You're focusing on the money to be paid for 1/6th of the contract period, not on the entire contract, like I am.

    Look at the money he was paid in the early part of the contract, and it'll be clear that a significant part of the total money in the deal was postponed until later.

  9. Ok then answer me this, why dont GM and owners just pay players the whole amount of the contract then up front?

    Because it would make no sense. Like it would make no sense in having the entire amount be payed by the end of the contract.

  10. @ Gavin

    Of course it's not the right way to look at it. A large part of the money he's going to make this year, is essentially, money that he should have earned earlier, but due to cap-issues, and other things, was postponed to the coming season.

    You can't just break it into X in year 1, Y in year 2 and so on. The contract is obviously to be viewed as a whole, not individual years.

  11. @ NewColtsFan

    I agree with your last post - To some extent.

    Protecting Luck should be of high importance to Grigson. I'm sure he knows that as well, and our O-line seems okay at the moment.

    Giving Luck some elite targets is just as important, so I would value the elite WR prospects highly, and most likely higher than you.

    Drafting an elite prospect ILB like Te'o in the first round next year wouldn't make me to sad either.

    Taking the top OLB would be great, as would the top CB.

    It all depends on how Freeney/Mathis does this season with the new defensive scheme, and what happens with Freeney after that, and what happens in Free Agency next year as well.

  12. @ Gavin

    By focusiing on what his salary for the upcoming season is, you're missing an important point.

    The contract is to be viewed as a whole. The total amount of the contract, is for the entire length of the contract, and not X in year 1, Y in year 2 and so forth. The contract has been financially structured the way it is, in order to deal with cap-space as well as securing his loyalty to the club. Now that he's coming to the end of his contract, he'll earn some of the money that he didn't earlier in the contract, so only focusing on the 14 million he's set to earn this year is not the right way to go about it.

  13. Well one of the players on the video said it right. The Colts went from being a team that always made the playoffs, and very often went far in the playoffs, with Manning as the starting QB, to a team that went 2-14, without Manning.

    To me, that speaks volumes of how good he really is.

  14. I just can't see Freeney being traded. No other team would be willing to take on a guy his age on that kind of deal for the next season.

    Besides, I think he'll do just fine. It's an adjustment with the new defense, but he's a smart football player and I can't imagine that he can't handle the transition.

    He's the only real proven top-tier player we have. Not that we don't have other good/solid players, but there is a reason why he's the only Colt on the NFL.com top 100 this year. Let's be real, it's not really likely that there will be a Colt between the top 30 that's yet to be published.

  15. @ NewColtsFan

    I agree 100%

    A top linebacker, like Ray Lewis, has much more impact on defense, than any CB in the history of the game.

    While I wouldn't mind drafting a top CB talent, I wouldn't mind seeing us draft a top WR prospect or a top ILB/OLB prospect instead (if the focus is on defense).

  16. Did a similar breakdown in the Ravens/Patriots game. Same thing here, just following Suggs to see how Pagano used him throughout the game, primarily because he says he sees Freeney playing the same role. Here are the numbers:

    Suggs played a total of 57 snaps in the game (29 in the first half, 28 in the second half). Of those 57 snaps, he was used in coverage 4 times. He rushed 93% of his snaps, and dropped into coverage 7. Of the 4 times he was used in coverage, he played zone coverage three times, and man coverage once (75% / 25%). All 4 times he dropped into coverage, he was in a two-point stance, and 3 of the 4 times he was lined up on the defensive right side, once on the left (75% / 25%). The one time he dropped into coverage on the left side, he was playing zone coverage.

    He was in a two-point stance for 39 snaps, a three-point stance for 18 snaps. That's standing up 68.4% of the time.

    Out of 57 snaps, he lined up on the right side 38 times, and on the left side 19 times. That's lining up on the right 66.7% of the time, and on the left 33.3%. He never stood directly over center, and was always lined up either left or right.

    Of the 38 times he lined up on the right, he was in a two-point stance 25 times. That's 65.8%. Of the 19 times he lined up on the left side, he was in a two-point stance 11 times. That's 57.8%.

    The Texans offense was 5/15 on third down, 33.3%. Suggs was on the field for all 15 third downs. He rushed from a two-point stance on 10 of those 15 plays, 66.7%. Of the 10 times he rushed from a two-point stance, he rushed from the right side 7 times, and from the left side 3 times (70% / 30%). He rushed from a three-point stance on 4 of those 15 third down plays, 26.7%. Of the 4 times he rushed from a three-point stance, he rushed from the right side 3 times, and from the left side once (75% / 25%).

    One 1 of those 15 third down plays, Suggs dropped into coverage, 6.7%. The one time he dropped into coverage on third down, he played man coverage. (More on this in my notes below, because it was intriguing.)

    The Texans tried 1 fourth-down conversion, and failed. On that one play, Suggs rushed from a two-point stance, from the right side.

    The Texans ran 2 plays on the Ravens goalline. Suggs lined up on the right side both times, once from a two-point stance, once from a three-point stance.

    The Texans ran 3 plays from their own goalline. Suggs lined up on the right side once, on the left side 2 times. The one play he lined up on the right side on, he rushed from a three-point stance. The 2 plays he lined up on the left side, he rushed from a three-point stance once, and from a two-point stance once. On third down, he lined up in a two-point stance on the left side.

    The Texans had one false start. Suggs was lined up in a three-point stance on the right side.

    My analysis:

    Suggs is a really good all-around player. I still question whether he has the same impact on the game as Freeney does when he's just rushing the passer at right end, but I do think he's involved in more plays. He wound up with 6 tackles, 1 pass defensed (on a bat down at the line), and 2 or 3 QB hurries. You have to account for him on every snap, so maybe he is in the offense's head a little bit. But he doesn't draw double-teams like Freeney does, and he doesn't pressure the quarterback as much. But he also has more run responsibility (like on 3rd and 2 with 20 seconds left in the game and up 7 points, he still appeared to have run support duties; either that or he was tired). He had a nice stop on the reverse goalline situation on a 3rd down also.

    Now, for the most intriguing play of the game... It's 3rd and 6. Suggs is lined up in a two-point stance on the defensive right. The Texans have Andre Johnson by himself on that side, but he's lined up in what would be the slot position, and CB Cary Williams is lined up over him. They motion the two backs out of the backfield, and Arian Foster splits out wide on that side. Williams slides out to line up over Foster, and Suggs steps out a couple steps and lines up over Johnson. The ball is snapped, and IT'S MAN COVERAGE, Suggs on Andre Johnson! Johnson runs a quick in, getting a little separation from Suggs across the middle, but Suggs is right on his heels. TJ Yates identifies the matchup and gets the ball out to Johnson quick, but Johnson doesn't get his head around fast enough, the ball skips off his left hand, and it's an incompletion. Had Johnson been ready, it would have been a catch, and probably a first down, but not a big play, because Suggs was there for the tackle. All in all, really good coverage on one of the best receivers in the game. It also helped that Pagano dialed up a blitz, bringing five men, including Ed Reed up the middle. Yates could have led Johnson a little better across the middle, and it would have been a big gain.

    The generic responsibilities that he has on every play are nothing that Freeney can't handle, even the short drops into zone coverage. I highly doubt Freeney could have stuck with Andre Johnson on that quick play like Suggs did, even though Suggs would have given up the first down. Nothing Mathis can't handle in this defense, either.

    Up next: Baltimore vs. Pittsburgh, Week 1. Suggs had three sacks, so it should be a good one.

    You sir, have way too much time on your hands.

    Nice breakdown

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