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2 minutes ago, gacker65 said:
Only one little problem, this Defense is being built to play with a lead. This not a true 4-3, but a hybrid, built to stop the pass but not the run. We don't have Sanders and Bethea any more.
And they intend on getting quick leads. Frank Reich wants to come out of the gate swinging and put pressure on defenses from the get-go. Even more so if we are playing a strong running team. No strong running team wants to play from behind from the start.
Put Luck in a hurried offense and spread the defense out. Find mismatches with guys like Doyle/Ebron/Hines and pick them apart. Offensive line is going to be in place. Offense is going to be innovative under Reich.
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15 minutes ago, Two_pound said:
Ballard is very well on the right course, let's let him do his job. Someone made a point last night about no db's drafted,get a better pass rush and the db's we have now will look a lot better. I agree with that. If the front seven can't stop the run or get to the passer it doesn't matter who is in the secondary. That is basic football 101.
The new scheme is going to make them look more capable. Less man and press coverage = less getting burnt on an island.
Safeties play a big part in the pass defense over the top of cornerbacks zones. Obviously Hooker and his health play a big part in that. I'm hoping Tj Green ends up being solid depth with this season. He has the speed, just needs to step up. If not, we need to cut our loss and move on quickly.
I will be tickled if this new defensive line rotation works even a little this year. We had pressure 25% of the qb dropbacks making us 3rd worst in the league. That needs to be close to 30% which would put us in the top half of the league and would cause a lot more turnovers naturally.
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5 minutes ago, NDcolt said:
What about Tamba Hali or Justin Houston, both wreaked havoc. Kemoko Turay or Darius Leonard, I see same vision.
While different defensive philosophies and positions, it's the same concept. Guys that can get into the backfield quickly and cause issues. Darius Leonard will blitz in Eberflus defense, but the idea is for him to fly around and make plays. Speed speed and speed on defense.
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5 minutes ago, Scott Pennock said:
So I read a lot of complaints about no corners being drafted, and I even thought we'd grab one in the 2nd Round....so it got me to thinking about what we have on the roster currently:
With last years draft and UDFA we netted Wilson (RCB), Hairston (Nickel) and Moore (Courtesy of the Pats) as a backup boundary corner who all showed they belong.
We claimed in-season and resigned Desir - projected as a zone corner with solid ball skills and willing tackler but drafted by a man to man team (Browns)
We signed Acker - projected as a zone corner with solid ball skills and willing tackler but drafted by a man to man team (49ers)
We claimed DJ White (In Season) - best in press man with good ball skills drafted by a man to man team (Chiefs)
Resigned Chris Milton - projected as a zone corner, maybe even FS who is a willing tackler but signed by us as a man corner by the previous regime (Duh)
So what I see is young veterans in Desir, Acker and Milton who were drafted and played against thier perceived strengths coming out of college - bad front offices perhaps? Also, I see D.J. White as a Nickel Corner which usually relies more on man coverage because the multi route options slot receivers run these days so he still fits as a 6th corner backing up Hairston.
All in all the FO can't fix everything in one year, but they got a headstart in year 1 and added a couple young veterans in year 2. Perhaps next year we can use one of our 2nd round picks on a stud corner to finish off the rebuild of the secondary in the 3rd year?
http://www.nfl.com/draft/history/fulldraft?teamId=4600&type=team
Just shared this in a thread. Go take a look and tell me how many cornerbacks in the LoB were drafted high.
It's zero... Richard Sherman (5th round) byron Maxwell (6th round) Jeremy lane (6th round) Walter Thurmond (4th round)
Kam chancellor was a 5th round guy
Only Earl Thomas was a 1st round talent...
I think last years group of young defensive backs for the Colts will shock the hell out of people in a year or two. They might this season given they are actually in the system they were drafted for.
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28 minutes ago, NDcolt said:
Follow only Colts, how many of above players were highly praised picks & drafted where projected? Considered ALL Pro players before putting on a uniform?
What I am getting at is Colts fans aren’t use to this kind of vision where undervalued players turn out to be Superstars! Let’s face it, it rarely happens in these necks & only seems to happen to teams with REAL Management! I got a feeling WE are now ONE of those TEAMS! CB’s respect throughout the League is for this very trait!
http://www.nfl.com/draft/history/fulldraft?teamId=4600&type=team
Aside from Bruce Irvin, Earl Thomas (1st rounders), and Bobby Wagner (2nd rounder) the rest of the bulk of that great defense was 4th 5th 6th and even 7th round guys... This is always my frustration with people that focus hard on the first 3 rounds of the draft. You can develop a great defense with 4th-7th rounders...
What is also interesting is how many 4th through 7th round picks they acquired. 3 and 4 picks at times in consecutive drafts.
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38 minutes ago, NDcolt said:
Not sure if anybody else caught this or discussed yet but throughout this draft I kept visualizing the Chiefs roster not too may yrs ago with all those fast playmakers, especially with our D picks. Not sure if their picks at the time were considered “reaches” or “projects” by the media/fans but would be interesting to know. They had a few lbs that wreaked havoc for yrs & rbs/wrs that could take it to the house on any given touch. Interested to see if any others had same vision?
Sure! Especially offensively. Hines speed and return ability could remind a lot of us of Tyreek Hill. I think Ballard knows if he can put a roster together that resembles Kansas City, Andrew Luck will win a lot of games. Can you imagine a healthy Luck instead of Alex Smith the last few years in Kansas City?
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1 minute ago, needanoline63 said:
As you can see I’m a big OL fan. Castonzo’s replacement needs to be drafted 2 years from now, maybe even next season. I wish smith was capable of being at right tackle with mewhort at right guard
Smith is a right guard and will be a franchise right guard, in my opinion. Our tackles will have to be addressed very soon unless Good and Clark magically become franchise players. Good more realistically.
I hope that Colts fans don't get their hopes up thinking this is the last draft for Ballard to take O/D lineman early in drafts... I think he will continue drafting in years to come on both sides in the first 3 rounds to continue ensuring we are top notch in the trenches. That is what wins in his mind, and it will continue being a priority. If he can find an upgrade, it means his depth is even greater.
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27 minutes ago, Trueman said:
Or how about you re-watch the games?
To blame against us in Denver? The dude was severely injured.
The pick 6 against the Saints wasn’t his fault. Reggie ran the wrong route.
41-0 is just his fault? If that doesn’t epitomize what I’m talking about , I’m not sure what will.
In 2004/2005 , the Patriots defence smothered/held our receivers , and we couldn’t run the ball on them because guess what? Our OL got dominated. Re-watch those games. Look at the turnovers, look at the line of scrimmage, look at the lack of separation our receivers got/how much time Peyton got. Look at how easy it was for Brady to move the ball on our defence and control the clock.
I’m not sure what you wanted Peyton to do. (Not to mention the Patriots seemed to “diagnose” offences remarkably well during those years)
I urge you , the games are on YouTube ... re-watch them.
I have rewatched them. Time and time again. I'm not a casual fan. I am also not fan that conveniently thinks Peyton Manning was the almighty. He had flaws just like his rosters did. They were exposed in the playoffs. No 41-0 is not "just his fault" but it was pathetic on all fronts and he was the quarterback and expected to put points on the board. He could have put up 30 points and it wouldn't have mattered, but he didn't put a single one on the board in a playoff game.
Yes I am aware of the Patriots mauling the receivers. It is the epitome of this topic. We were soft. Peyton threw 4 interceptions and the rules that were enforced afterwards would have made a big difference. I'm aware of all of it. But again, this can't be blamed on everyone else. Peyton bears the brunt of a great deal of that criticism for a reason. Only Colts/Peyton fans defend him...
I love Peyton dearly. He has a statue outside of LOS for a reason. He is one of the greatest to ever play the game. He should have the title of greatest ever, but he had soft teams to play with. That doesn't reflect him, but he wasn't perfect, far from it in many playoff runs.
Back to the topic at hand, as this would be ongoing conversation going nowhere
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1 hour ago, Trueman said:
Which game? I’ve heard this narrative be passed around a bunch , but give me a specific game.
4 interceptions in 2004 is a start.
Look at his ratings for each playoff loss/playoff games in general compared to his average regular season games. Night and day. Even against upper echelon defenses. Regular season/playoffs was night and day. He was certainly to blame for the loss against us in 2014 in Denver. Threw a pick 6 to seal the superbowl loss against the Saints. They lost 41-0 in 2003 to the Jets and he had a whole 137 yards passing. In 2005 against the Patriots, he had a 69.3 passing rating and scored a whole 3 points.
Regardless, they were still soft compared to the Patriots. They allowed teams to beat their defense up by running the ball and eating clock... relying on Manning to bail them out.
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2 hours ago, Trueman said:
“Peyton teams” could run the ball primarily because of Peyton. Teams were terrified of him , and he also had the intelligence/freedom to diagnose plays and check to a run. This made our running game far more efficient and productive than it would’ve been with any other QB.
It wasn’t because we had dominant line play. We struggled “in cold and wet” games usually because we were playing elite defences who could jam our passing game and actually force our line to block. Couple that by getting dominated in time of possession because our defence couldn’t get off the field and it was always a massive task for Peyton. Blaming him for our playoff losses is hilarious to me.
We rarely had the ability to run when we wanted to , and when the opponent knew we were going to. That is the sign of a great line. We had to win by deception and intelligence...but when you’re going against teams that can make you one-dimensional and have brilliant defensive minds coaching them , it’s supremely difficult and way too much to put on one player.
And the crazy thing is , as flawed as those Peyton teams were (believe me they were) , Peyton had far more to work with on the field and off it , than Andrew ever did.
Polian built a team that was incapable of winning without Manning , as did Grigson with Luck.
Ballard is trying to actually build a team.
Peyton was to blame for several playoff losses. To not put some of the blame on him in those losses but put all of the credit on him for the HOF he played with and the stats/wins they did have is contradicting.
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6 minutes ago, Boiler_Colt said:
We had that label long before Grigson.
We have had that label a lot more lately because of Grigson.
Peyton Manning teams could at least run the ball. They struggled in cold and wet games. That was on Peyton a great deal of the time. A lot of the time because the defense had 25-30% of the cap, which is bad management. YES, I am saying Bill Polian managed the team badly in that regard. A little balance on defense could have won another superbowl or two for this franchise.
I don't think people labeled Bob Sanders and the pass rush for those teams as soft. They were soft on stopping the run and winning games in January. I think it was more of New England being tough than Indy being soft.
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3 hours ago, threeflight said:
This is exactly how I feel. Third grade of a C or lower I have seen.
From MSN.
INDIANAPOLIS COLTS | C
This might be the strangest class of them all. Quenton Nelson may be the best player in the whole draft, which made him a steal at No. 6 overall. After that, things got weird in a hurry. A small-school linebacker and another guard at the top of the second round, then a pair of trade-ups for edge defenders that went much earlier than expected. The highlights of Day 3 were explosive offensive weapons in Nyheim Hines and Deon Cain (what a steal in the sixth), but other than those two, it was projects galore. Daurice Fountain is intriguing, though. Overall, considering how many premium picks they had to work with, the Colts could have done so much more for a roster than needs so many impact players on both sides of the ball.
Ballard keeps going for depth. Hello? You just had how many top picks? Why are you going for depth? We need STARTERS. With that many picks, to get a grade of anything but a B or higher is terrible. He talks a big game, but in reality he is very VERY conservative. Same goes with the FA signings.
We had starters on the Offensive line last year... They struggled and most importantly they didn't play. I would routinely pull up the game day rosters and have to look up several offensive lineman because they were plucked from practice squad and waivers half the season... and if you didn't notice, they sucked.
THAT is why you need depth. That is why we needed new starting players on the offensive line. How can you possibly be disappointed in this? Did you watch the games last year? That was the biggest need.
In regard to the defensive lineman. Many experts,aside from the ones everyone is quoting with bad grades, say he could be something special. Go look at his numbers compared to the top 3 rushers in the draft including Chubb. Half the amount of rushes, same numbers of pressure and hits. That is why they reached... because they felt that it wasn't a reach at all. It's a scheme change defensively, and one that requires DEPTH on the defensive line for rotational purposes.
If he were conservative, he wouldn't be taking chances on guys like Basham and Turay. He's looking to develop them into studs.
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1 hour ago, sreeb2deeni said:
Is it fair to say that "Indy" has been identified by opposing players, coaches and talking-heads as a "soft" team?
If so, why did we get it? And what do we need to do to change it?
I have heard things like they're a indoor turf team, a finesse team, a pass first team, etc.
Why did we get it? There is a number of factors that go into that. One being personnel drafted under Grigson. One being coaching and lack of development / busted FA acquisitions on the fronts. One being us getting manhandled by the New England Patriots several times in a 4 year span.
Anytime you can't run the ball and stop the run, you are going to be labeled soft... and that was the case for the last 6 years...
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38 minutes ago, Trueman said:
Great read , thanks for the post.
I found the Turay insight particularly interesting.
I did also. Actually came on here with a quote copied ready to talk about it.
"What we did was look at all the top pass-rushers in this draft. (Bradley) Chubb, (Marcus) Davenport, (Harold) Landry. Compared them with Kemoko. The amount of times they rushed the passer, and the amount of times they affected the QB, whether by sack, hurries or hits. Kemoko rushed the passer – throughout his career, which was four years – half as many times as all the other guys. Everyone was around 1,000 rushes. Kemoko was like 550. The amount of times Kemoko hurried the QB was close to the guys who had 500 more rushes. Hits? Was more than the other guys. This is total number, not percentage, in regards to pressures."
I love it.
Just now, ColtStrong2013 said:I did also. Actually came on here with a quote copied ready to talk about it.
"What we did was look at all the top pass-rushers in this draft. (Bradley) Chubb, (Marcus) Davenport, (Harold) Landry. Compared them with Kemoko. The amount of times they rushed the passer, and the amount of times they affected the QB, whether by sack, hurries or hits. Kemoko rushed the passer – throughout his career, which was four years – half as many times as all the other guys. Everyone was around 1,000 rushes. Kemoko was like 550. The amount of times Kemoko hurried the QB was close to the guys who had 500 more rushes. Hits? Was more than the other guys. This is total number, not percentage, in regards to pressures."
I love it.
... but it was a REAAAACHHH.
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Even if Brissett is under qb this season because of Luck's shoulder, things should go much better because of Nelson and Smith. I'd be actually interested to see what kind of a qb he'd be under Frank's system and a decent o-line. I thought he played tremendous last season in a dumbed-down predictable offense and an offensive line plugged with guys off the street. Andrew will be better than ever if he steps on that field this year. Book it.
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13 hours ago, Trueman said:
Oh, I know... people have a terrific ability to utilize hyperbolic revisionist history to support an argument.
When I heard about the trade I thought :
One, why did we trade a 1st for a RB?
Two, why did we sacrifice a great asset for a skill position when our lines were poor?
Three, Trent’s vision was horrendous as a rookie in Cleveland too. Look at what Jim Brown said about him. Why would they want to move on from a 3rd overall selection if he was such a stud?
Grigson’s scouting abilities have been brutally criticized by people in the NFL , and he showed why countless times. Not to mention his flawed approach towards team building.
Don’t tell me “Trent failed Grigson”. That’s beyond dumb.
Ha. I remember picking at a good friend of mine who is a Browns fan after this trade. We went into cleveland that year and won a close and tough game. I told him before to not be mad when Trent jumped up into the Dawg Pound... his comment back was that Trent couldn't jump high enough to get there. And he was serious. Thought that we were asinine for giving away our 1st round for him.
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Just watched the post draft presser. The biggest thing that struck me was the players they were looking for. They placed a high importance on exceptional athletes which showed in the guys that are now Colts. All of them have great measurables. Some even off the charts. He wanted great athletes that have skills but most importantly have good character. Guys that want to put the work in to be the best and are going to push the rest of the team with competitiveness. That is all they want. The football part they can develop. Everyone drafted has to be developed. These guys are easy to... and can build a consensus winning program.
That's not reaching for guys, as most of those fella's in front of them in the eyes of ESPN and the media that feed our knowledge, weren't even considered by Ballard. There are a lot of character issues every year in the draft. Some teams have no problem drafting them if they are talented. Obviously Ballard isn't interested. Most of these draft picks were multi-year captains of their collegiate teams. Ballard wants leaders and professionals. I think he found the guys that fit the mold and the athletic measurables. Get these guys on the field and start grinding.
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4 minutes ago, threeflight said:
You nailed it.
So far I have seen 2 drafts and 2 FA signing periods from Ballard. There is literally not one thing he has done where I said, "wow, that was a great move". I don't know, maybe the trade of 3rd pick for all of the 2nd rounders? But even then, the players he got in the second round were all 3rd rounders to me. Maybe not the LB.
Anderson just 2 years ago was listed by Irsay as one of the "untouchables". Now he is traded for a 7th rounder???
It just seems as if he really has no idea what he is doing...despite the apologists here on the board that believe he can do no wrong.
Just some real head scratching moves.
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29 minutes ago, Valpo2004 said:
Scheme changes are dumb.
Adjust your scheme to the players you have. Instead though we just dump the few talented players we have in this team. Until about 3 to 5 years from now we change coaching staffs and dump all the talented guys from this scheme and go back to the scheme we just quit using.
Scheme changes are necessary. Why would you keep a 3-4 defense with a coach and manager that doesn't believe in the 3-4 defense... especially when it has failed this franchise miserably the last 6 years??
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5 minutes ago, #12. said:
Ballard has about 6 months, then the honeymoon is over. Nature of the business. Results, otherwise fans will turn on him like they will turn on anyone.
I didn't love this offseason or draft, but personally I'm in wait and see mode.
He might have 6 months before the fans turn on him... but he has about 2 more years before the Irsay's do.
This was a 3 year minimum rebuild from the start. I think it will come together next offseason, and we will be on here chomping at the bit for the season to come next year on day 3 of the draft. This is a longterm approach and his cap management proves he intends on developing these two draft classes into multi-million dollar deal players in next 3-4 years.
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3 minutes ago, Mr.Debonair said:
Cool Story bro!! Glad we Cain tho!!
Yeah he finally read my text man!
I like the guy. I think we are coming away with two good receivers...
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1 hour ago, Mr.Debonair said:
Not going to pretend that I know anything about this kid. Why not Cain or St. Brown
Hey... we got Cain too. Ballard must have been reading the forum.
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1 hour ago, IinD said:
Turay looks like he could be a player. It's easy to see his ability.
Even though it's Rutgers, they play in a major division so he hasn't played against Div3 teams.
Definitely has an NFL built body.
They are talking about our draft so far on ESPN, and Louis Riddick loves him. He says it obviously will come down to development, but if they can develop him to apply himself every down, he is without a doubt one of the top passrushers in this draft.
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19 hours ago, threeflight said:
I think its a square.
Look......to me Josh Jackson and Ronald Jones could have been two players that would have been not only highly rated, players of need, but they also have that star factor.
I just think that the players that were drafted in the second could have been gotten later on. That is called a reach.
I feel the same about most of Ballards FA signings. He just seems to be to be very conservative and he thinks he is smarter than he really is.
How would you know how smart he is or what he thinks about his intelligence?
You seem to be a very uninformed casual fan, but I don't know for sure...
Thoughts on Ballard's vision
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That's a big part of the vision. Spread teams out, run the ball well, and find mismatches. Put pressure on them by playing fast. Take calculated risks, something Pagano teams never did.
There is a stat somewhere that said that in Pagano's 6 years in a 4th and 3 or less around the 50 yard line, he only went for it a few times. 2 or 3 times in 6 years... The Eagles went for it in that situation twice in the same game last year.