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  1. Can anyone summarize the highlights? It won't load for me.
  2. Kinda figured this would happen. Knew we would go for one of KCs FAs, seeing as he came from there. Maybe go for Scandrick now too?
  3. Pair up manning and mcafee...epic lol
  4. I believe Ballard has said teams were interested. But he said he would send him to any team. Furthermore, does ballard come across as a guy who announces every little detail about who is interested in whom?
  5. The record is not a direct reflection of his skill, it is that of the team. Blake bortles is not a 10-6 QB, Tony Romo was not an 8-8 QB, Trent Dilfer was not a SB winning calibre QB.
  6. It is, what's he doing with him?
  7. He's shown he can be a quality starter, experience, and is young. This draft lacks true starting QBs. There are still a half a dozen teams in need. A second is not a stretch. Maybe a high third.
  8. Want more than a third for Brissett.
  9. You don't say?! However many of his pressures were due to his interior line and not him holding it. His interior line graded average to start the season: https://chiefswire.usatoday.com/2018/07/17/pff-chiefs-offensive-line-ranks-in-the-middle-of-the-nfl-for-2018/ throughout the middle of the season https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/pro-2018-nfl-offensive-line-rankings-all-32-teams-units-after-week-10 And to finish the season https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/pro-2018-nfl-offensive-line-rankings-all-32-teams-units-after-week-17
  10. That makes no sense. We trade back with the jets only to give them to the Broncos? We would have dropped two spots and gained nothing.
  11. Romo is the only commentator that actually gives insightful information during the game, rather than some of the clearly biased commentators they have now.
  12. Whatever the line, I'll take the over. 8.5 - 9.5 is likely the line.
  13. Ever heard of credit for time served?
  14. People underestimate the browns. Had they won the games they lost by 3 points or less and their tie, they would have won their division. In the past 3 years they've had something like 15+ games lost by 3 points or less. They finally have a qb, a run game, threatening WRs, solid qb protection that allowed 25 sacks (8th best), and a defense that's intimidating. They're winning their division this year.
  15. So two people is his entire line? The pressures came from the middle. But let's ignore that. And if you say stuff that needs to be dismissed, then yes I will dismiss it. He's also had two years to play since coming out of college. Nothing those scouts said have anything to do with the discussion about how his oline gave up 39 hits in a 5 week period. That his oline gave up tons of pressures, of which he was the best qb under pressure. His play this season already proved some of those comments wrong such as leading with his foot, accuracy on intermediate and deep balls, standing in pocket, ball carrying. But let's not give credit to a qb that's had two years to develop.
  16. Dang only two mediocre players? Ok then, Indy still isn't a destination prior want to come to.
  17. I didn't say he holds on to it too long, that was @Jared Cisneros But anyways, you first claim he holds onto it to long because he scrambles, and blaming the qb for that rather than the O Line that forces him to scramble. Now you say he holds to long which makes it harder on the OLine, and again blaming the qb. Two different arguments with different logical conclusions. And again, your keep claiming top 5 stat but your source ONLY uses sacks. That is not, in any way, feasible to use as the basis of your argument. Fact is KC was bottom of the barrel for hits and pressures. No matter how much you try to put all the blame on Mahomes, it's just not factually accurate, his time to throw stat is skewed by the fact he is able to scramble and make throws, not that he just holds it while in the pocket. He was the best QB under pressure, that's a fact too.
  18. Mahomes. Won't have one this year, more chances in the future. That's without team being taken into account. Given the trajectory of the team, and the longevity of Mahomes (barring any unforseen career ending injuries), I believe we have a high chance of winning multiples. I also believe with Luck, and the trajectory of the team, we will win at least one, at most two, superbowls. With Mahomes, it could be three or four. However this is clearly speculation.
  19. To the bolded....Which means he isn't pressured, like I said. and that mahomes is pressured more, like I said. Why is Mahomes out of the pocket? Because he is pressured out! But yet KC has a great Oline? If Mahomes is so bad on time to throw and how long he holds on to the ball, and it is related to pressure, the pressure is allowed by the Oline. You are literally supporting my argument and then not even understanding what you are saying. Again, nobody in this discussion cares about the run stats when comparing QBs. This whole discussion is about QBs. You are bringing up things that have nothing to do with the conversation. You are saying top 5, by only looking at one stat (sacks), that doesn't even come close to actually communicating how good the Oline is in protecting the QB and allowing Time to Throw. Show me pressures and show me hits, or you prove nothing that supports your argument. Your best support for your argument is Sacks and run blocking. Slow clap for you.
  20. It was essentially in a vacuum, but with comparable QBs. Luck over Mayfield, Mahomes over Brady, Rodgers over Jackson. I believe that I would, considering I feel quite sure about the future of our team. But you have no way of knowing if I am saying that facetiously or genuinely or not. But with Lucks age, and injury history, I would feel more comfortable with Mahomes than Luck, even if he had won a SB.
  21. Well of course that is true, but the discussion was focused in on the choice between Luck and Mahomes, not Luck and any unnamed future QB. The uncertainty of finding franchise QBs is why it gives validity to the discussion of Luck or Mahomes for the future of the Colts franchise. If we open the discussion to future QBs, then it essentially is moot.
  22. But Mahomes isn't a scrambling QB, he only scrambles when forced. He's not like Cam Newton, RG3, or those other running QBs. He had more hits, therefore pressured even more than his hits. Yet he still threw for more yards, more TDs and ran for more yards and more yards per attempt. Why are you comparing run stats for an O-line when we're talking about QB protection. One has nothing to do with the other. If we were comparing RBs then you'd have a point, but we aren't. That's why you had to subtract the QB from conversation, just so you could continue to argue that KC's line was just as good as the Colts. When it's just not true. Pull up stats for pressures and hits allowed for the lines, pull up scrambles and scramble yards (don't want to take into account QB run plays). Your pass blocking only takes into account sacks, which does not even come close to supporting your statement, when they allowed far more hits and pressures than the Colts. Their 39 hits ranked them 24th while Colts were tied for 2nd. You don't get hits unless you pressure the QB, but a pressure doesn't mean a hit. So it is safe to assume their pressures are even high than their hits. I have brought up the most relevant stat to the discussion, yet you continue to say KC has a similar Oline. Luck was not injured for season was he? He played all 16 games correct? He was practicing all offseason yes? Then you have no point there. You cannot measurably "give him a little break."
  23. And that is something you cannot do when comparing objectively. This is why it is impossible to debate with people who cannot objectively compare things. No I do have a clue...Colts had the better line yes? I still don't get your point. KC had the worse line of the two and Mahomes had to scramble more. Mahomes led the league in TDs when pressured, and 4th for YPA when pressured. Which your FO site does not take into account the amount of hits or pressures Mahomes had. I would like to find a site that shows how many times a QB was hit or pressured for drop backs (for the season) and compare exactly what we're talking about here. What I have found is that from week 9 to week 14 the Colts allowed 19 hits...in that same time span, KC allowed 39 hits, and you want to sit there and tell me that KC had the superior O-line? Hits will correlate with pressures, therefore Mahomes was unquestionably pressured more than Luck. Hence why I say his mobility is better than Lucks.
  24. Number of sacks does not directly correlate with mobility. Luck had a better O-line. However, Mahomes had better scrambles than luck. Mahomes had 272 yards with a 4.5 average while Luck only had 148 for 3.2. Mahomes had to scramble more, and was able to gain more yards than Luck when he had to scramble. You have to put your arguments in to context and weigh them proportionally. And in one of his losses he had 478 yards and 6 TDs. Another loss was against a divisional opponent that held him to 243 yards (his season lowest) and two TDs with 0 INT. At the same time Luck had 4 games under 243 yards. So Mahomes worst game was still better than a quarter of Lucks entire season. Games against the likes of the Redskins (2 TD, 2INT), the Eagles who were 9-7, and the Raiders (where he had only 239 yards while Mahomes had 285 and 291 against them). Nobody is crowning Mahomes anything. The question is not whether he would do better without an A-List cast, it is would he do just as well as Luck on the Colts. I believe the answer is yes. This is because they are near even in skills that are not impacted by their team (Accuracy, Mobility, Arm Strength, Pocket Awareness).
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