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9 minutes ago, stitches said:
Is the QB position somehow not in the purview of the GM? Should Ballard not be blamed for not having acquired a potential franchise QB until this last draft?
that depends on where Irsay stood on the matter.
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6 minutes ago, stitches said:
Focus on winning...
gtho lol
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4 minutes ago, Solid84 said:
Calling Colts fans spoiled is subjective opinion. The earth being round is not.
oh good lord. you're right. I'm wrong. I know the flat earth analogy wasn't perfect. I'll stop trying to use analogies and just be blunt moving forward.
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Just now, 2006Coltsbestever said:
We haven't won a Division Title under Ballard so I can see why fans are upset. My patience is even wearing thin with Ballard. Having said that I have been a fan for so long and I have seen a lot of winning we have done compared to most of the other teams over the last 20 years. The Lions had a dream season last year, we have had those type seasons with Peyton and Luck numerous times and just expected it. That is where we are spoiled when you look at the whole picture. Imagine being a Lions fan for 20/30 years, Jets fan, Browns fan, Chargers fan, even Texans fan for some other examples. Texans have never made an AFC Title Game in their history and that goes back to 2002. Hell, since in Indy, we have made 5 with 3 different QBs.
Bills, Vikings, and Falcons have been elite franchises and have never won a SB. Matt Ryan just take 3 knees, your kicker makes 1 kick and you win your SB
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Agree all around. I'll be the first to admit that I got spoiled as well. It got to the point that 12 wins and a division title were just assumed. I miss those days but also acknowledge that those are definitely not the norms and not something we can just take for granted.
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Just now, Solid84 said:
Sure, but that's not really anywhere near the same argument is it?
no, but it was my nicer way of saying that just because you don't agree that you're spoiled, doesn't mean you're not.
Btw, saying colts fans are spoiled and calling them blithering buffoons are also no where near the same argument either now are they?
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13 minutes ago, Solid84 said:
It's fine you think you're spoiled, doesn't mean the rest of us agree we are.
Flat earthers don't agree that the earth is round. That doesn't make them right.
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1 minute ago, Solid84 said:
Actually this is what starts it down the wrong path:
If you call people spoiled you better expect backlash.
And you provided backlash to the spoiled rotten comment, though I'm also pretty sure he was referring to all colts fans, himself included. And 2006Coltsbestever explained it very well:
13 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:Peyton spoiled everyone because he made winning every Sunday look easy + we won a SB with him and started most seasons 7-0 or so, so by Thanksgiving the Division was over.
8 minutes ago, Solid84 said:Actually this is what starts it down the wrong path:
If you call people spoiled you better expect backlash.
Here's the difference, in my opinion...the spoiled rotten comment was an opinion provided based on the types of responses that have been given by various members. The "Good to know others are OK with that sort of results. " comment was an (incorrect) assumption offered as being factual due to nothing other than the person not being as outraged as he was. The good ole, "if you don't agree with me then you obviously feel the complete polar opposite" rebuttals that are so common these days. There is almost always a ton of grey area between 2 extremes.
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Just now, stitches said:
Spoiled rotten for wanting more than 0 division titles, 2 playoff appearance and one playoff win in 7 years? Really? I guess I'm spoiled rotten. Good to know others are OK with that sort of results.
See, this is the kind of crap that starts the conversation down the wrong path. As has been explained before, KNOWING and UNDERSTANDING the reasoning behind past results is far different than being OK with those results. If we're going to have any kind of healthy discussion that's not going to devolve into the usual bickering, then this kind of "putting words in other people's mouths" really needs to stop.
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3 minutes ago, richard pallo said:
But it doesn’t.
fair enough. I would prefer none of the starters on offense or defense be the primary returner.
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25 minutes ago, richard pallo said:
That doesn't bother me actually.
It probably should
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54 minutes ago, RollerColt said:
I think there's a difference between making excuses and accepting things for what they are.
THANK YOU!
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56 minutes ago, stitches said:
I think a lot of what people have been doing last few years has been excuses. Most of the teams in the league have their own set of setbacks and reasons why they should not be achieving great success. But this league doesn't wait for anybody... it's the Not For Long league. You either compete or you are left in the dust. And for the most time since Luck's retirement we've been in the dust. And it's on the GM to snap this team out of it and it's for him to point the ship in the general direction he thinks it needs to go. This includes all the personnel and player decisions... especially the QB decision. If Ballard wanted to draft a QB in 2020 or 2021 or 2022 he should have done it, despite what Reich wanted. Ultimately the buck has to stop with him when it comes to the personnel decisions on this team.
I disagree. The way this team is ran, the buck stops with Irsay, not Ballard. Irsay is the one that extended Reich. Irsay is the one who extended both Grigson and Pagano. Ballard could not fire Reich or changed the ship's course until Irsay was also on board.
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6 minutes ago, stitches said:
Luck retired in Ballard's 3d year... we are entering year 8 of his tenure. I think it's long been time to stop using the Luck retirement as an excuse. Sure, it was horribly timed, it was incredibly unlucky for Ballard... but A TON of time has passed since.
The Bengals have a new QB since Luck has retired and made the SB.
The 49ers have switched a few QBs since Luck retired and have made multiple SBs.
The Eagles have a new QB since Luck retired and have made the SB.
The Jaguars have a new QB since Luck retired and have won the division.
The Texans have a new QB since Luck retired and have won the division
We cannot keep getting back to that Luck thing.
Well the thing is, the Luck retirement was just the starting point. At that point, they felt they'd built a team that was ready to compete, so they brought in Rivers. From that point, they kept going the FA route for a new QB rather than draft one (which has been reported to have been Ballard's preference, but not that of Reich. I know some will say that Ballard should have overruled Reich but two points....1, Irsay could have very well been in agreement with Reich at that time as well in regards to trying to "win now" rather than start over with a new rookie QB and 2, a GMs job is to get the kind of players his HC wants. When the GM has an offensive minded HC, especially one that used to be a QB himself, then QB is the one position where that HC should get who he wants and then either sink or swim with said QB. That's what happened to Brian Billick. He convinced the front office he could turn Kyle Boller into a franchise QB. Billick was wrong and that's what got him fired. Same situation with Reich. He got the QB he wanted (multiple times in fact) and ultimately sunk himself.
I know a lot of people are unhappy with the lack of results in the past 8 years, but there are reasons for the lack of results that need to be understood.
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10 minutes ago, 1959Colts said:
didn't we hear similar about the browns many, many times? This seems incredibly premature by those good folks at JPAFootball.
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1 minute ago, DougDew said:
I think a little tolerance for others' styles works best. Some folks think out loud, so to speak, so one sentence might conflict with another. It can be confusing on a written text internet forum, but its not a very serious thing is it?
if a little tolerance was all that was required, then this wouldn't be a discussion.
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19 minutes ago, pkbrux said:
Yes, this one we are currently in, for example 🤣
How familiar are you with Afroman? lol
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9 minutes ago, pkbrux said:
I have and not as much disappeared as I had hoped. When you block a super high volume poster, you still see them constantly when everyone quotes them in their posts.
do you still see the threads that were created?
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9 minutes ago, ColtStrong2013 said:
I dont think trying makes anyone right. I think a lot of luck does. Did Houston drafting Stroud at 3 make them right, or was it more luck that the panthers who jumped them didn’t? Would they have the same success with the little man?
also, do they make the trade up for Anderson if they hadn't had all those extra picks from the Watson deal?
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6 minutes ago, Yoshinator said:
The bottom line is we should have traded for Sneed and paid him. Knowing we got Blackmon back and how Gus Bradley operates, Sneed would have been the missing piece. Not only to counter the Texans, but to fix the CB position and be in good shape heading into the draft. The draft capital was cheap enough. That will hurt us down the road,
I can certainly appreciate that and can't necessarily disagree. I was to the point I was hoping to see the news we'd made the trade.
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9 minutes ago, Solid84 said:
How am I acting like that?
I dislike how he treats FA. How is that in ANY way the same saying I know how the job works?
I don't mean to speak for jvan, but I think it's possible that, though he was responding to you, that portion was in reference to someone else.
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22 minutes ago, Solid84 said:
I don't think "tank" is the right word for it. Roster reset. Rebuild. If you let go of a handful of your highest paid players chances are the team will be worse. But, sometimes things have to get worse before they get better.
Oh I would have been fine with that too. I'll be honest, even before Richardson got hurt last year, I felt that the best outcome for his rookie season would be for him to stay healthy, show improvement as a passer and the team be competitive in every game, but finish with a losing record and preferably a top 5 pick. When he got hurt, I was even more ready for that eventuality. In the end, I'm not upset that the team fared as well as they did because it showed that the roster isn't as bad as some make it out to be and it instilled a great deal of confidence in Steichen.
I was just saying that the only way to make that happen is to intentionally do it. A lot of fans would even consider what you suggested tanking...getting rid of higher paid players (which are usually going to be your best players) and not doing anything to replace them. Is that an "evaluation year" or a "tank job". Tomato tomahtoe I guess
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Just now, jvan1973 said:
Sovereign citizen videos on YouTube are my favorite
I started watching the traffic stops (12 Taze of christmas was great) but lately i've been watching videos of them in court getting destroyed lol. My favorite channel is Team Skeptic. There's a video of a judge Oakley (only one of him so far that I know of) that is amazing.
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Just now, jvan1973 said:
Of coarse we comment, but acting like you have any idea how the job works is nonsense.
There are people that criticize scientist because they think the earth is flat.
Exactly...flat earthers and sovereign citizens are who I point to when people say that an opinion can't be wrong. lol
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Just now, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:
No you just seem to think mocking them is ok.
not mocking the person...mocking the "sky is falling" and "I know better" posts
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Colts offseason discussion / Ballard Grievances (merge)
in Colts Football
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The moment Luck retired? I don't remember reading those reports at all. Now after Rivers and before Wentz, what I remember reading is that Reich wanted and had to convince both Ballard and Irsay to go with Wentz instead of drafting a QB.