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Don’t agree at all necessarily. He may be a putz I don’t know the dude but he has a specific job to do. Agents are voluntarily paid by athletes to represent said athletes. Athletes can control how they are represented if they choose to. if you think that JTs agent is being a putz then logically that would point in the direction of JT being a putz since he chooses who and how he’s represented. his agents tweets are essentially JTs tweets when it comes to Colt/JT communiques. JT. Could with a few thumb movements tweet a denunciation of any of his agents tweets unless JT is some weak minded door mat that is. Don’t know him but he doesn’t seem that way on TV. And BTW. I have no concern or disdain for athletes and their agents fighting for dollars in any manner they see fit. Same with the org allocating the scarce resources o v the NFL cap. Business in business. Not judging Taylor, his agent, or JI and the FO. Just doing business which can and often does get muddy.

Calf strain can be code for Achilles. It’s like until a baseball team admits a player has to have Tommy John, they call it elbow tightness.

I’ll take a stab at this. I emphatically do not think JT raised the ceiling in 2020 at all. He had very very poor numbers in making people miss and pedestrian broken tackle numbers with stellar run blocking giving him great yards before contract. He ended up with respectable total yards with the caveat of having a close to 300 yard game at seasons end v. Terrible JAx or Tex team in a completely meaningless game that inflated his effective production. in 2021 he had a stretch there when he and the oline had a tremendous impact during the middle 3rd of the ceiling. He broke several long runs. But before this spell his and his last 4 and the playoffs he wasn’t all that impactful IMO with the exception of that long game sealing run v the pats. This part of the year he was really good and the line was mauling people in the run game. last year he did not elevate the team. So he raised the ceiling with some long runs for a period of time, but outside of that he was an RB and RBs that aren’t great route running pass catchers just don’t seem to be all that impactful in todays NFL.

He’s young as the crow flies but not young for an NFL RB. They average 2.57 years in The League.

Most likely he will play I agree. Most of em do. But what does good, smart, and character have to do with it? Dude was a philosophy major and has a high IQ. Playing NFL RB for a living is arguably pretty dumb. One could posit that a strong show of character would involve standing with his fellow RB brothers and holding out so that the injustice of RB pay will peaceably but forcefully corrected. One could argue that it would be good to honor a contract one has signed.

I had emotional attachments to Ryne Sandberg, Rick Sutcliffe, Richard Dent, and Walter Payton especially when I was a kid.

Well I don't personally have emotional attachments to NFL players since I started being the same age as them and now I'm way older than everybody except TB and he retired. I wasn't too much older than him . I'm not putting down people with emo attachment to these guys I just don't have it. At all. I'd cut my mother if I thought it helped me win ball games. All I care about for my fandom is having a team that can win and compete. That's it. Sum total. I don't care about guys rough lives or their personal demons they've overcome or how much they donate, etc. ALL NFL teams have good guys, bad guys, generous guys, etc. etc. etc. It matters not in the least when I'm discussing what my armchair analyst self discuss on this website. So desert has nothing in the least to do with it when I am thinking about what helps our team win. I agree with the Theo Epstein philosophy of not paying for past performance. You do. thats cool. Do you. I'll do me.

Yup.

But to your point I'd much rather be paying Trayvon Diggs, who was drafted shortly after JT, than any RB in any recent draft, JT included. Or winfield too. I wouldn't have drafted a RB in R2. That being said it wouldn't be bad to sign JT to a market reasonable deal that had an out after next year.

Huh? are you trying to cause trouble? I wouldn't sign him OR ANY NFL RUNNING BACK to a big money contract.

Yes to this specific case with what has gone down it really looks like there has been some unexpected moves and to me it seems likely that this is a somewhat nasty disagreement. JT seems to have blindsided and embarrassed the FO, and they seem to have thumbed his eye back to me. It would be fairly coincidental for JIs comments not to be pointed IMO. I don't gamble much, but if I had to bet, I'd bet this is likely how it went down. I do see your point here. But JT and all other players have the power to control their agents.

I think this is contrary here is reasonably possible. JT and the org come to wink and nod agreement that while they are negotiating, instead of having the media circus of an official holdout, they do it this away. Don't you see this as possible, I do. Now I do think Irsay's comments yesterday are an indirect dig at JT. But like you same with me. Spitballing some possible scenarios.

I agree about this year. I’d be pretty shocked if this team is a playoff sniffer this season. That would probably mean AR plays All Pro type QB from Day 1. It’s not impossible but it seems exceedingly unlikely. So if Taylor is going to be a contributor to the team WHEN it’s ready to contend it would probably be a good idea to have his touches significantly reduced this season. So a hold out or an (ahem bull sheets) injury keeping him out for a significant portion of the beginning of the season could be an ironic positive for JT and the Colts. He’s not good in pass protect anyway, there is no reasonable debate on that, so if he’s out 6-8 games and if he’s signed long term to a reasonable contract that the market, not the union of RBs, determines as reasonable, then it might be better long term for AR to have a really good pass protector if he’s going to start all of or part of the 1st half of the games. We have a great pass protector in Zach Moss already on the roster who runs hard and would be effective in zone reads. Then, thought exercise here, AR has a stud vet protector helping him out in his initial development, JT comes back half way through the year fresh, splits carries with Moss for the 2nd half, meshing with AR, AR has developed some confidence. So when we are ready to be competitive starting September 2024, we have a fresher, less used up Jonathan Taylor and a more condiment AR.

Don’t let this little cheat code get out in the public eye lol, but don’t line up where the big line starts outside the building at grand park. That line can get really long and if you wanted to try to get a good seat, you’d need to line up early. If you park in one of the lots in the West part of the park and walk through the soccer fields there is a 2nd line that forms from that side with exponentially less people in it. if you have kids that will be playing in Colts City before practice this method probably won’t work because that area is between the building and the practice fields. Hope this helps. As far as where to sit that’s tricky. My sons and I walk around but camp can get very crowded. WARNING for sitting low in bleachers. You can sit there for an hour think you have a good view and then late arriving fans will stand right in front of you on the rail. It’s teeth gnashingly frustrating.

Technically it could be a theory or it could be a law but that’d be

No comprende Senior.

I get it. I speak tongue in cheek quite a bit man and use a crap ton of sarcasm and irony. Doesn’t come through on the net for some I guess.

Yeah see NCF here I am with you too. JT is not Wally Pipp. If Lou Gehrig took over the RB duties, JT would be cut and teams would be lining up to sign him (to a reasonable number though since the individual RB has been devalued by NFL orgs.)

Relax NCF. I wasn’t disputing I was supporting. I guess you think I’m Satan and are just always an adversary.

It is a reasonable hypothesis. That is not the same thing as proven hypothesis. Most folks struggle to understand the difference.

Yep. The MRI or any other combinations of tests can’t tell a doc how a patient is feeling physically.

Is it? I just PUP rules for a while and it simply means that a player is not cleared by a doctor practice or play as far as I can see. What do you know that is different?

I don’t know what it takes to be put on pup, but i do know that a patient’s responses are the lions share of the diagnosis post op when determining what is prudent for recovery. That’s what I was referring to. Not pup requirements.

RB practice isn't that important. Little pass pro concept work too

Not hard to do. Doc: OK Jonathon. Let's take that sock and croc off and have a look see. JT takes off sock and croc. Doc manipulates the foot and ankle. Doc: So how does that feel? JT: A Bit tender, a little tight. Doc does a couple other manipulations. Doc: OK how about that? JT: Same. Doc: Well the scans look good but only you know how you feel. Do you feel 100% ready to go ? JT: I don't think so Doc says a whole bunch of Latin feces into a recording device very rapidly and ends in English "not ready to practice or play."