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Maybe a threat but not much of one.

I agree Taylor and his agent are at least unwilling to accept the reality if the market at the RB position.

Anyone who’s been to camp. Does Shaq look bigger than the 218 he played at in 21 and 22.

Yep negotiations in sports sometimes get pretty nasty. We just haven’t seen much at that here with Irsay handing out money like mad to guys who play less important positions and Jacoby Friggin Brissett and a washed up kicker. But there have been ugly publicity during negotiations that ended up in done deals. I am SURE JT saw the mint given to a guard and an off the ball LB and a RT and BEFORE their contracts were due and is What the actual you know what? What about my money? This org is a clown show though and it starts with a man child at the top.

I just don’t think JT would ruin his career by sitting out man. I just don’t. Bell apparently had a bit of a self discipline issue. I don’t know that JT has that. Agree to disagree.

This.

BTW here is an article that discusses Ruth's superhumaness outside of mechanics. Read and be taught @jvan1973

I'm almost certain this is the system we will run. A lot of times though you give a zone read look, but it's not really a read, it's a predetermined dive, or a predtermined pull by the QB. Same with RPO. Many times the belly is just a fake and the play was a pass the whole time.

This is the offense I expect SS to run again this year. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXl_rNtQjhw

Well man I'm not talking about that being the only play. I just think the whole zone read/RPO will be an anchor of this offense. They go together really well. It's what steichen did lasttwo years anyway.

Completely disagree. When you have a read option threat, then you fake the belly and the end around, and drop back with an actual RPO. Teams are trying to do this kind of thing Doug. Some orgs have scrapped conventional thinking. It will be a few years until we can see the results of this new strategy, whether it words and continues to grow or becomes the run and shoot. I never thought the pistol formation would last, but last it has.

Well Doug, he ran Jalen Hurts over 300 times in the last 2 seasons not including the playoffs which with 165 last season and another 45 carries in 4 playoff games. That's quite a bit of running.

I don't know if I'd say staple but a consistent threat. It's going to be something that is run enough to be accounted for. I see them running it a lot. How many times will AR keep? I'd guess around 3-4 per game. Unless the D crashes everyone toward the middle on every play. Man when zone read works, its' like a QB scramble. They're aren't any bid dudes left in the pic.

I would be astounded if the drafted AR to be a drop back passer Doug. That's what Murray and Newton and the Bears just ran 11th pick Fields 160 times. all very high picks. I don't know what SS has in mind, but it seems like he might have what they did in Philly last year when they won the SB. ie. run the QB.

Booze and dames and hot dogs. Ruth was a different looking though in his late teens and twenties when he was in the league.

Maybe Dougie.

Fine. But they also wore hats. Pitchers put all kinds of substances on the ball to make it move more. And players got earholed (although come to think of it there was no earhole since they wore caps. Walter Johnson pitched in the low to mid 90s and Joe wood threw harder than that and Ruth killed both guys. You also forget the dead ball era. Babe Ruth Barnstormed with blacks early in his career until they made him stop and by all accounts he knocked them around too. Ruth was actually a big base stealer in his younger days. If you watch the vid, you should see that he most likely would have adjusted to that or any pitch. https://howtheyplay.com/team-sports/Why-Was-Babe-Ruth-the-Greatest-Baseball-Hitter-Ever There is an even more nerdy video with all kinds of next Gen type numbers on torque, etc. that I can't locate easily right now. You also discount that you can't even throw high and tight hardly today. A player can stand on the plate and if a pitcher comes up and in barely out of the zone a couple of times, he'll get tossed. Back then they threw it in the ear and the guy got back up and back in the box. You are looking only at vid after he was in the league for 15 years. He was fat later but so was Tony Gwynn. Didn't seem to hurt Big Papi. He likely would have been great in this era too. Ruth on Roids and supplements. Yikes.

That is narrow minded. Look at this analysis of the Babe's swing. Seriously, if you like baseball and are into this topic, enjoy this vid. https://www.theswingmechanic.com/blogs/baseball-swing/why-i-love-babe-ruths-swing-so-much And a thing about the Babe that must be remembered is he's swinging a 42 ounce Redwood trunk out there. Today's average is around 36.

Fournette was likely helped with all the HOFers and otherworldly pass catching studs Tampa had rostered as well as the 2nd GOAT in the short passing game. I think Rivers was the GOAT in that category. So yeah you put Taylor on that team with that QB he can probably take more targets.

Babe Ruth without he hot dogs and beer. I would't have gone for the knee shooters but a little more than champagne glass. Don't disagree and you don't think that he is an elite type of receiver. So far as I can tell

He did. Also agree. He's good at catching dumpoffs, screens, and an occasional wheel. Edit not too hard to find. "At the Combine, he (Matt Forte) recorded a 3 cone L drill of 6.84 seconds. This correlates to a 9.13 score out of 10.0." He had elite lateral quickness. taylor was 7.01 which is 6.89 out of 10. Meh lateral quickness. Not special for a RB. Read it and be humbled @jvan1973 You seem overconfident.

We agree on that. Marshall Faulk was the Shehoi Othani of the milleneum era football.

I meant a long term deal before the tear. That's fairly evident since they drafted Taylor after two really solid years from Mack.

Well he had 92 targets in 32 games his first two season. That's a quite a few.

I am in agreeance with people who have been talking about CMC. JT is good enough to catch the dump offs and screens and turn up field, to sneak out on the occasional wheel route. But he is limited in what he can do as a pass catcher when it comes to more complex/lateral quickness friendly routes. CMC and I mentioned Marshall Faulk might have been Pro Bowl slots in this league and I think Faulk could have played Y. Faulk was underrated as a football player IMO even though he got paid. I don't think it's understood how great and diverse an all around player the guy was. He was a HOF level pass protector too if you could make the hall for just that. Perhaps the Goat. Faulk and CMC have other worldly lateral quickness. JT does not. That is why he is a limited receiver and sub par pass blocker. It's not intended to be a negative criticism, just an observation.