Finball
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35 minutes ago, Mr. Irrelevant said:
Wow, when you put it like that he sounds like a dumpster fire!
Ha, didn't meant to that. I like the kid and he has great physical tools.
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1 hour ago, Vinatieri4 said:
I don't know much about Mack. I don't watch much college football though.
If he is as talented as people say he is, then how come he was picked in the fourth round?
Probably combination of these factors I've gathered:
- Ran against fairly light boxes quite often compared to many other RBs in the class.
- High fumble rate.
- Bounces runs too eagerly to the outside, even when there is no need.
- Hasn't had much success running the ball between the tackles.
- Boom/bust: lot of big runs but also lot of runs that end up in negative yards or gains of less than couple of yards.
- Share of team carries declined each year.
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At this point, I think Darnold is the real deal.
Don't like Rosen as much as Jackson and Darnold. Bum throwing shoulder, not as physically talented as the other two and probably has football character issues.
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I agree with the above, not really need for Blount at his age with those 4 versatile RBs they have. 3 of them were extended/signed for beyond this season too, so it's pretty unlikely that any of the would be cut to make room for Blount (not that any player is safe with the Pats, ever). And the 4th guy, Dion Lewis, might be the most talented of the group but with his injury issues and relatively short track record, he probably has more value for the Pats than the others.
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2 hours ago, Shive said:
From what the article implied, I think he gave his evaluations to the Browns FO and they chose not to listen. Those guys weren't the ones that brought him in, so they most likely didn't buy into his models or philosophy and well....did what the Browns usually do, screwed it all up.
I think in a FO that understands and values his models and perspective, he could be extremely valuable.
Browns didn't even meet Gilbert before drafting him.
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Decker is pretty damn intriguing hire.
Though I find it interesting/funny that their 1st round picks in 2014 were Manziel and Justin Gilbert.
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With the awesome benefit of hindsight, and knowing that in this alternate reality these guys wouldn't be selected earlier than where they were originally picked I'd do the following;
2015
1st rounder; trade down with the Giants; acquire their 2nd (#40), 4th (#108) and 6th (#186) (Titans traded down at #33 and got 7th instead of 6th).
Trade #40 to Carolina for #57, #89 and #201 (Rams originally made that trade with their #41).
#57: Danielle Hunter, DE/OLB, LSU
#65 (original trade down with the Bucs); trade down with Texans for #82, #152 and #229.
#82: Jordan Hicks, LB, Texas
#89: Trey Flowers, DE, Arkansas
#93: trade with CLE for #111, #147 and #202 (original trade was with the Pats and they gave up their 7th but that that pick was little later so I think this could be done without giving up any other picks)
#108: Clayton Geathers, S, UCF (Adrian Amos could also work)
#109: Grady Jarrett, NT, Clemson
#111: Josh Shaw, CB, USC
#147: Jay Ajayi, RB, Boise State
#152: Torn between J.James, J.J Nelson, Uzomah and Tony Lippett. Won't matter much though.
#166: D.J Alexander, LB, Oregon State
#186: Trenton Brown, OT, Florida
#201: Tyrell Williams, WR, Western Oregon
#202: Eli Rogers, WR, Louisville
#205: David Andrews, C, Georgia
#207: David Irving, DE, Iowa State
#229: La'el Collins, G, Louisiana State.
#244: trade with Dallas for their 2016 6th (#178)
With this crop, I'd assume the Colts would be drafting later that where they did draft originally. Let's say where Houston drafted, so make the playoffs instead of them but lose to KC. That means that Ryan Kelly goes to Washington as their GM indicated before the draft and won't trade down. Luckily we already have our center of future in David Andrews. With our 1st, I'd trade down with Denver so they can take Paxton Lynch and get their 1st (31), 3rd (#94) and 5th (#144), which is about equal per the trade value chart in drafttek (Denver made the same trade with Seattle for their #26 and didn't give up 4th).
#31: Chris Jones, DT, Missisippi State
#52: Cody Whitehair, G, Kansas State
#85: trade with MIA: get their 6th (#186), and 2017 3rd and 4th.
#94: Tavon Young, CB, Temple
#119: Rashard Robinson, CB, LSU
#144: Jordan Howard, RB, Indiana
#159: Jatavis Brown, LB, Akron
#178: Anthony Brown, CB, Purdue
#186: Elandon Roberts, LB, Houston
#243: Michael Pierce, DT, Samford
So last years starting lineup would've been something like
QB: Andrew Luck
RB: Ajayi/Howard (along with Gore)
TE: Doyle
WR: Hilton, and 2 of T.Williams, Moncrief, Rogers
OL: 5 of Castonzo, Mewhort, Andrews, Whitehair, T.Brown, Collins, Reitz
OLBs: Danielle Hunter and Walden/Mathis/Flowers, maybe Irving too
DEs: 2 of Jarrett/Jones/Pierce/Irving/Langford
NT: Jarrett/Pierce
LB: Hicks, Brown/Roberts/Ayers
CB: 2/3 of Davis/Shaw/Young/Robinson/Brown
S: Butler, Geathers/Adams
One stacked and deep team. Also weakened the Patriots a lot, getting Flowers and Andrews. However Secondary is pretty young and inexperienced, especially CB which could've proven out to be a big issue last season. So I think this team makes the playoffs pretty easily but will lose to the Pats, sooner or later. And while there's some extra picks for 2017 (Miami's 3rd and 4th), Colts won't get Hooker so they wouldn't be as well set at safety. Can't have everything, lol.
Taking Adrian Amos instead of Josh Shaw could provide more help at S but he's not great as single high S but there really weren't those in these two drafts, at least they haven't shown it show far. That's why I didn't take Landon Collins. While a great talent, he's not great in deep coverage, doing most of the damage close to LOS. And with Hicks, Geathers, Roberts and Brown, there isn't that big of a need for a box safety. Didn't take Kendricks as I see Hicks as pretty similar talent and that trade down brought the Colts either Flowers or Ajayi/Shaw/Williams via those extra picks.
Now it's probably time to wake up from this fantasy though, lol.
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4 hours ago, aaron11 said:
may not be healthy
theres rumors he has a degenerative hip
That shouldn't be an issue on a cheap one year deal though; which is probably all he will get at this point.
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Andy Reid wanted Mahomes badly. Mahomes is in pretty good spot. He can sit for a year or two and develop under Reid and then come in after Smith leaves to another team/is traded/retires. Smith is good enough to not lose games but he won't win them either. If the plan is Super Bowl, gotta have a QB who can win games, unless one has all time great defense; the Chiefs don't. I personally wouldn't worry much that he played in a gimmick offense. His mechanics though, need a lot of work. The traits are off the charts good, which is why I think it's a worthwhile gamble fot KC.
I think Kpassagnon and Hunt were ok picks. Don't know anything about the last 3. KC draft will obviously be defined by how Mahomes turns out.
I didn't like Bengals draft that much. They drafted some good players but have done nothing all offseason to upgrade their porous offensive line. Actually they lost the best two players from it.
Don't get using a pick on a damn long snapper.
Ravens took a lot of players I like. Texans and Jags too but not the biggest fan of their 1st rounders. Rams had a solid draft for a team without a 1st imo.
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On 1.5.2017 at 5:45 AM, colts52761 said:
49ers RT is same size. Trent Brown, don't know how good he is.
Probably the best RT from the '14-'16 drafts. Though there have been lot of busts at OT from those drafts and OTs better than Brown are playing LT.
He's pretty good pass blocker but struggles in run blocking, especially zone runs.
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8 hours ago, Colts_Fan12 said:
Titans blew a major opportunity should have took lattimore first then Davis or Williams
Williams went 7th overall. I'd guess there's a pretty good chance that Davis would've been long gone by the time Titans would've been on the clock again. There as a run of offensive players early on because this draft class had much weaker depth at O, with pretty steep drop-off after the top guys. If you wanted real good piece on O, you had to get one early.
That said, I don't think they had a great draft. I'd say Taywan Taylor was best value. Without seeing draft board of other teams, I'd agree that their 1st rounders were reaches but who knows. They could've been gone in the next pick or two. Still, considering they had two 1st rounders, I think Titans had the weakest class of the division. I'd have gone Adams, Hooker or Lattimore @ #6 and then OJ Howard @ #18. Delanie Walker and OJ Howard would've been unstoppable duo for as long as Walker has legs IMO.
I think Texans and Jags had pretty good drafts. I thinks this draft is better for the Texans than their past few drafts, where they had some head scratchers. Not sold on Watson personally though, at least not for that price. Cunningham and Watkins were pretty good value picks and I like Foreman.
Wouldn't taake running back 4th overall in this era but at least Fournette very well could be the best back drafted in a decade. Robinson, Myrick and Westbrook were good picks IMO.
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Damn, Mathis signed with the Texans. Very surprised he wasn't drafted. Must be some issues I wasn't aware of, maybe injury? One of my favorite sleepers in the draft.
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I'd expect us to be very active in August, September and October when it comes to waiver wire. Chiefs the past couple of seasons were and got couple of starters that way.
Also this
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3 hours ago, jameszeigler834 said:
Even 2012 draft class aside from Luck and Hilton wasn't that great this is the best one in a very long time.
Most drafts aren't that great if you ignore the best two picks.
Still got 3 starting caliber talents in that draft ignoring those two: Allen, Fleener and Ballard (if not for the injury).
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44 minutes ago, chad72 said:
Sometimes wonder if Ozzie just goes based on fan popularity boards for his picks.
Hah, though last years draft would've looked very different in the 2nd and 3rd if so.
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23 minutes ago, chad72 said:
I knew Ballard had a plan like Justin Houston in round 3, that is what I said earlier in a post too:
Ballard was with the Bears when KC drafted Houston.
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15 minutes ago, chad72 said:
Did the Dolphins forego their pick?
They took McMillan.
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16 minutes ago, PrincetonTiger said:
What does the Raiders do?
Almost everything except QB, WR and RB, I'd guess.
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18 minutes ago, CopenhagenColt said:
There are still lots of good LB's available for the 3rd round.Lawson, Cunningham, Willis, Williamson, McMilan, Anzalone, Beckwith and many others still not picked.
Also some solid DT/DE options still around.
Lets get some defence this year.
I think Cunningham and Willis will be gone soon. Surprised they are still there, especially the lattter.
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I was ok with lots of guys available at 15, so much that I'd have been ok with trading down and picking up a 2nd/3rd in the process.
Very happy with Hooker though. Clear top 10 player for me, top 5 even.
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53 minutes ago, Buddy Lee said:
Rugby-style? Inform me. When I have watched rugby, it is mostly in close quarters breaking out of a scrum. Not open field at all. Is it chest high tackling??
No, hip high, target the upper thigh with the lead shoulder.
Funny enough, Buckeyes and thus Hooker use that technique too, if I'm not mistaken.
http://www.sbnation.com/2016/9/6/12341916/nfl-rugby-tackling-concussions-seahawks-falcons
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59 minutes ago, neug3246 said:
When you are constantly being doubled and tripled teamed with 300+ lineman... well ya maybe he might have motor questions and taking plays off but really??? Probably came due to not being rotated out due to lack of talent and depth around him in college. With the current depth we have on the Dline I think Malik McDowell's motor concerns will be just fine. No need to worry, he is a great player that could also impact this D big time to go with Malik Hooker.
He reportedly had been slacking in practice too, according to the scouts quoted in the McGinn article I mentioned earlier.
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31 minutes ago, Buddy Lee said:
With which CB(s)?
Pretty much all of them.
Most Seahawks players use different tackling techniques than they did in college. Seahawks use rugby-style tackling, which is fairly rare at college level. NFL too, though its been gaining popularity.
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1 hour ago, ColtsBlitz said:
Doesn't sound like a Ballard pick unless he gets some 1 on 1 time with him.
Bob McGinn's (Milwaukee Journal Sentinel) article had some good quotes. Not sure if link is allowed but shouldn't be hard to find via google.
Hypothetical Draft - Most important position after QB?
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I'd agree with this, except I lean more on the pass rusher (NFL GMs seem to agree since those guys get the biggest mone after QBs) and I value interior pass rush as more even more than edge rush. It's harder for QB to evade pass rush coming directly at his face.
Corner at #4 unless we are talking about elite safety with range like Earl Thomas (hopefully Hooker in couple of years too). Maybe LB like Kuechly or Willis.