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5 minutes ago, w87r said:
If Pittman wants to leave, he will get offered an offer sheet, as long as he doesn't sign it, the compensation can be less than (2) 1st
Once he signs the offer sheet it is (2) 1st, which no one is going to do, and the Colts are easily going to not match.
If Pittman is adamant about wanting to play elsewhere, a trade for less than (2) 1st will be made without the offer sheet being signed.
That's the thing... what's the point of an unsigned offer sheet? Does it serve ANY purpose whatsoever? Lets say the Chiefs sign the offer sheet but Pittman doesn't sign it... he comes to the Colts and says what exactly? Look at this - a team is giving me this type of money? Give it to me or.... what? I will sign the offer sheet? What is the incentive for the Colts to negotiate with the Chiefs for ANYTHING LOWER THAN 2 1st round picks? If they have already signed that offer sheet, the Colts incentive is to actually make Pittman sign it.
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3 minutes ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:
It’s not the exclusive tag so yes there is a chance. What happens if bills or chiefs come calling and he says I want out.
You say - cool, where's your offer sheet? If he gives you an offer sheet signed by the Bills or the Chiefs you get their next 2 1st round picks...
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4 minutes ago, jvan1973 said:
Pittman has said he wanted to test the market. You can't sign a player that won't sign.
I like Pittman... I want him to stay... but honestly... if a team is stupid enough to sign him to an offer sheet, I'd take the 2 1sts... then wait for the Garrett Wilsons or Ceedee Lambs or Jalen Waddles or Devonta Smiths of the world to become available and would try to trade for them instead...
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1 minute ago, PRnum1 said:
I think that is the exclusive tag.
Non exclusive can be almost anything. I've heard of non exclusive being a 2nd and 3rd for example.
Whatever Ballard will accept.
You have them mixed up. The exclusive tag doesn't allow the player to negotiate with other teams, thus the only way he leaves is via trade, thus whatever the two teams negotiate for...
The non-exclusive one is set at 2 first round picks if he signs with another team and the Colts don't match.
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1 minute ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:Pittman is the best WR on the market. This is a huge mistake by the colts.
Letting your best WR walk is a huge mistake.
The non-exclusive tag means the Colts get 2 1st round picks if he signs with another team and the Colts don't match. I think I'd be good with that outcome.
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I think that's the first time the Colts have used the franchise tag since Pat McAfee in 2013?
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45 minutes ago, Superman said:
I watched some of Turner, he was almost always in a two point stance, and has little to no pass rush moves. It's just speed and some bend to beat blockers, but once they engage with him, he's mostly losing the rep. And he's not very good against the run.
I don't mind having a hybrid pass rusher with freakish traits, but I don't think he fits what the Colts want at DE as a player. Ngakoue was a productive pass rusher, and they let him walk after one year. Ebukam is better against the run.
I think there is a big gap between Ngakoue who was the worst DE defending the run in the NFL for a few years in a row and what the Colts would find acceptable. I was one of the biggest proponents of not re-signing Ngakoue precisely because I thought he was unplayable against the run. I don't see the same with Turner. Is he great against the run? No. But IMO he can be playable against the run... and potentially exceptional as a rusher. What games did you see of him? I haven't seen a lot. I saw the Ole Miss one and one of the Georgia games... I thought he looked good and even showed some speed to power moves which surprised me since I knew he was a slight DE(btw I agree with you on the lack of technical refinement). I will need to watch more of him, but I'm telling you the profile screams Ballard type to me - exceptional length, exceptional explosiveness and speed... kind of similar to how Richardson's profile screamed Ballard to me last year.
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25 minutes ago, Superman said:
Oh, that could be a blind spot at DE, especially if they're including 3-4 DEs.
True, I didn't even consider the possible inclusion of 3-4DEs... or 3-4 OLBs? I don't know how they designate them. I can see them actually putting a 3-4DE as an interior player while the 3-4OLBs would be designated as DEs...
I don't know... For example, here's Dallas Turner and he's designated as a DE:
BTW... look at that arm length for Dallas Turner. IMO it's not out of the question that Ballard might see him as a RDE(What Gus Bradley and the traditional Seahawks type scheme calls LEO). Think Kemoko Turay type... Think Ngakoue... We have Ebukam playing that role now, but if Ballard wants a more dominant player Turner actually looks to me like reasonable approximation to that type of player that you can line up wiiiiiide wide out in 2 point stance... and just let him go berserk 1-on-1 vs OT.
In fact... looking at his testing... the more I think about it the more I feel like he's a prime candidate for us to take at 15(if he's there), even though he doesn't look like the prototypical Ballard DE. IMO that's mainly because those LEO types are not very common and we have so far addressed that position mainly via FA(Ebukam, Ngakoue)... and before that Ballard actually used a second round picks on Turay and Banogu, both of whom were supposed to be that type of player... and both of them were players at about the same size as Turner. 6'3 250 for Banogu, 6'4" 253 for Turay... and both of them had length... (33.5+" arms)...
IMO if Bowers is gone... Turner is more likely pick than any of the CBs at 15...
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2 minutes ago, Superman said:
I thought Arnold would be 4.45-4.5, so pretty close. I think he's really instinctual and positions himself well, and he can contest at the high point. I really like him, but never thought he fit Ballard's profile. I really like Mitchell also, he seems longer to me...
There are a lot of later round guys with longer arms, but it looks like a lot of them project as safeties in the NFL.
I really don't know how much attention to pay to those shorter corners. Like if we had any significant exception to that 32" rule I'd be more willing to consider them, but especially early in the draft or when spending resources in FA... Ballard really seems to be pretty strict with that 32" threshold. I've done that exercise before... but pretty much the only exceptions for those 7 years are Nate Hairston (31" and 5th round) and Jaylon Jones(30 3/4", 7th round pick). On the other hand the list of 32+ is endless...
2018
Kenny Moore - 32 5/8"
Quincy Wilson - 32 1/4"
Pierre Desir - 33"
Nate Hairston - 31"
2019
Rock Ya-Sin 32"
Marvell Tell - 33 1/8"
2020
Xavier Rhodes 33 3/4"
Isaiah Rodgers 32 7/8"
2021
TJ Carrie - 31 7/8"
2022
Dallis Flowers 32"
Brandon Facyson 32 5/8"
Stephon Gilmore 31" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I guess this is the real exception. Yep... Ballard made an exception for an DPOY, 5 time pro bowler and 2 time first team all pro...
2023
Julius Brents 34" (!!!!! FREAKY)
Darius Rush 33 3/8"
Jaylon Jones 30 3/4"
Darrell Baker 32"
Pretty much the only exceptions are late round picks(5th Hairston, 7th Jones) and Gilmore... I honestly don't think Ballard would take Mitchell in the 1st with 31" arms... maybe I'm wrong...
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1 hour ago, Superman said:
I looked them up, did I have them backward?
Edit: I guess I got mixed up on Mitchell. I thought he had 33" arms.
31" for Mitchell... 31 5/8" for Arnold. What do you make of Arnold's lack of elite speed? He doesn't look super fast on tape but I still thought he would be able to go in the 4.4s
It's interesting that from all the CBs projected as 1st rounders only Kool-Aid McKinstry measured at 32" or above. Ennis Rakestraw measured at 32" too but I personally don't see him as a 1st rounder.
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17 hours ago, Superman said:
I think Arnold is really good, but I don't think he meets the Colts physical baselines. If we're talking first round, I think Mitchell would be the most obvious target.
Edit: We'll see what Kool-Aid's medical looks like, but I felt like he was the Ballard prototype at corner.
If I told you Arnold measured longer than Mitchell would that surprise you?
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Just now, NFLfan said:
Time for you to choose. What about the Bears?
Bears sounds good, thanks
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I will take one of the teams too...
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Something to remember - the raise in cap space was even higher than anticipated. Teams will have more money than previously projected and thus it's possible some of the new contracts are going to look a bit elevated...
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Congrats man! One of the best things to limit your free time
On the mock, love your signings in FA... wondering if some of them wouldn't be a bit more expensive(Savage for example), but they are probably not a ton off... I like the Huntley signing as backup to AR.
On the draft... Brock Bowers seems like a no brainer if he's there... trade down seems like a no brainer having in mind Ballard is our GM... Payton Wilson is an interesting pick, I'm not sure Ballard would go with him since he's not especially long. But he did test really well at the combine. I think I heard somewhere he's had 2 torn ACLs on the same knee and two dislocated shoulders(in the same game), one of which later needed a surgery after re-injury. This feels like it will probably will drop him in the draft. I like Ricky Pearsall. AR-Pearsall reunion seems like an interesting proposition.
Overall good job.
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BTW I love that he actually was not content with 4.25. I've seen players run in the 4.2s and then not even run the second one. He wanted to actually go for the record.
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Damn... what are they feeding those guys in Texas... some freaky athletic scores...
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Just now, Solid84 said:
Brian Thomas Jr at 4.34
Brian Thomas, you are an INDIANAPOLIS COLT!
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Ricky Pearsall is doing well... he might go day 2? Maybe?
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Damn, Larry Fitzgerald comp for Odunze...
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Why is Spencer Rattler running if he's going to be running the 40 at 5 seconds?
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2 minutes ago, Solid84 said:
He just plays so awkward in my opinion.
Prime candidate for WR to TE conversion...
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Just now, Solid84 said:
Does this take him off the board?
Pretty much... Not many players I can think of we drafted with that low of a RAS.
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Update: Colts signing Michael Pittman Jr to three year contract
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The worst thing is that Ballard has already set the precedent that he would give in and sign a player who sits out, Sure, Taylor made the situation much uglier than what I expect Pittman to do but I actually think this is not out of the question scenario. I think it's possible Pittman sits out. Possible but unlikely, at least taking into account what he's said about the franchise tag before. But then again... Taylor had similar statements and then showed he was ready to make things VERY UGLY in order to get what he wants... so...