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Seems like the only info we have for top round players being on top 30 visits are - Nabers and Worthy ... and Kneeland
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43 minutes ago, Superman said:
I watched the first two, and I can't take anymore.
The one against the Rams was run as designed, those shovel passes are often thrown with the left hand. He probably could have recognized that Doyle wasn't going to get there and just thrown it away, but that wasn't totally his fault.
The one against the Titans is inexplicable. Not a great play call, and the execution up front was terrible... but again, just throw the ball away, put it in the dirt and live to fight another day. There's just no way to get comfortable with that kind of QB play.
And I don't think that video shows all of his left handed passes. From memory, I think there were 15 of them that season.
Yep according to various tweets he indeed had 15 left handed passes that season. Insane! Want to see Frank's attitude about it:
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7 minutes ago, Superman said:
Why would you do this??
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13 minutes ago, Superman said:
I've said before, the inconsistency from play to play is something I wasn't prepared for. I watched some of his games with the Eagles before we made the trade, but watching him every week, running the offense for my team, it's a different story. I couldn't appreciate the impact of his wild swings from good to bad and back again when I wasn't emotionally invested in the outcome of every drop back. His decision making was downright reckless at times.
Watching Wentz play was one of the most frustrating experiences I've ever had. He wasn't the worst QB we've seen with the Colts, but he definitely was the most enraging to watch. Part of it was because he had some highs and you can actually see a glimpse of a world where he's a good QB. But his inconsistency and his wild plays were something else...(there was some absurd stat about left handed passes with him I can't remember)...
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22 hours ago, richard pallo said:
TRADE IDEA. I just read where Mark Davis has given new GM Tom Telesco permission to move up in the draft for a quarterback if it makes sense. They are sitting at pick 13. We know Ballard was trying to sign Danielle Hunter to a big contract and lost out. Obviously still trying for that premium ER. How about Ballard does a trade similar to the Buckner trade. Offer our pick 15 to the Raiders for Max Crosby. According to the draft charts our pick coupled with pick 13 results in 2200 points which coincidentally is the equivalent to pick 3 value wise. They could always add an extra pick or so if need be to trade up. They might not have to go all the way up to 3 either. I also wouldn’t have a problem including Dayo or Kwity as part of the trade to give them a player to replace Crosby. I would think a trade like this would be agreed to in advance of the draft and would only go down if the quarterback they wanted was there. If they did go to three and they liked a couple then I would think it could be done before the draft. The big question is would the Raiders part with Crosby to get the franchise quarterback they want. I could see this is a win win if they really want to get a quarterback this year. Knowing how Ballard tried for the veteran Hunter I could see him at least having the conversation with Telesco. Maybe they say no or maybe they say let us think about it. If Telesco wants to bring in his own quarterback this is the perfect time for him. Just a thought on my part two weeks before the draft. I believe we traded for Buckner before the draft so having a conversation with Telesco now makes sense to me. If Ballard wants to make a splash move this trade proposal would certainly qualify and fill a major need as well. Like I said two weeks to go to the draft. Seems like forever.
Not a bad idea. I had a similar idea of the Colts trying to pry Micah Parson from Dallas since they seem to be struggling with keeping their roster and I've heard their analysts throw potentially trading one of their stars that will soon need a new contract(Parsons, Lamb) for high picks as an option to rebuild and refresh the roster. Crosby is of similar mold and quality as a pass-rusher. I am not sure I personally would do it, but I can absolutely see Ballard doing something like this...
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Just a reminder:
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Brugler's draft guide, The Beast, is out. You can find it here:
https://theathletic.com/5399690/2024/04/10/nfl-draft-2024-the-beast-dane-brugler/
You need subscription to The Athletic for it. IMO the subscription is worth it just for the draft guide.
I will post just the top 100 here:
Some notables:
- QB rankings are kind of chalk... Caleb, Maye, Daniels, McCarthy... Bo Nix ahead of Michael Pennix... the last two are ranked 44 and 52 respectively.
- Joe Alt is OT1 and in the top 5 of his big board
- Troy Fautanu before Fashanu, Latham and Fuaga...
- Dallas Turner EDGE1
- Graham Barton OC1
- Terrion Arnold and Quinyon Mitchell are no. 10 and 11. Not much separates them.
- Brian Thomas is his no. 15 prospect and WR4... interesting thing - no other WR in the top 30. Ladd McConkey is his WR5 at 31 with AD Mitchell(33) and Keon Coleman(37) close behind him.
- Byron Murphy DT1 - at 16, Newton DT2 - 28
- Here's a surprise... Marshawn Kneeland- EDGE 5 at no. 32. This is the highest I've seen him anywhere
- Jaden Hicks is his safety 1 at no. 39. Again - highest I've seen him anywhere.
- Junior Colson LB1 at 42
- tons and tons of receivers in the top 50 - 10 WRs in top 50 ... 17 WRs in the top 100!!!
- Jonathon Brooks RB1 at 48... kind of a weak RB class it seems.
- Ruke Orhorhoro is DT4 at 51. I think this is one of the highest I've seen him
- Xavier Legette is WR14 at 76... pretty low... I think one of the lowest I've seen him.
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9 hours ago, 1959Colts said:
Malik Nabers will meet with Indianapolis
...He met with the Cardinals and Chargers last week. He was in New York, visiting with the Jets today before heading to Chicago.
After visiting the Bears on Wednesday, Nabers will head to Indianapolis.
He will meet with the Colts on Thursday, Cameron Wolfe of NFL Media reports. It is a scheduled visit not previously reported.
The Colts need another weapon to join Michael Pittman...
Damn... Interesting... Not just that we would want to have him as top 30 visit, but also that he would be willing to come considering we are not in position to draft him as it stands right now...
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Just now, Superman said:
Oh yah, I saw that one at the time(not sure if it was you that brought it up at the time or someone else. I found it interesting IF they actually put weight on it(the match between Funchess and Luck strengths). It probably played at least some part in it...
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8 minutes ago, krunk said:
What would we draft him as? Corner or safety? What arm length is he looking for at safety? Is it different?
Corner. He might be better at safety on a random team, but IMO if Ballard drafts him, he will draft him as a corner. He looks like a Ballard corner to me... well except for the arm length. Not sure about the arm length threshold at safety.
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18 hours ago, Solid84 said:
He may not be worth the 15th overall, but he could be a trade back target.
I recently watched some of DeJean... he looks so much like exactly what Ballard likes from his corners. He's big and physical, he has certain level of explosiveness. He plays tough and physical in the run game and at the catch point, He played off coverage too... a lot of it! He seems to have really good ballskills and takes the ball away.
The one thing tha doesn't quite fit in the Ballard mold is the thing that most of the top corners in this draft don't fit - the arm length - it's under 32". No idea if Ballard will make an exception for a player that high in the draft. So far the only exceptions he's made are for 5th rounder Nate Hairston and 7th rounder Jaylon Jones... Oh.. and future hall of famer Stephon Gilmore.
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On 3/28/2024 at 2:49 PM, stitches said:
Here are some Matt Harmon "Reception Perception" charts for the top receivers:
And here's the best of them... look at this one for Rome:
According to Harmon Odunze is the first receiver he's ever charted that has completely green route tree everywhere. He runs every route and he get gets open on every single route.
BTW MHJ's chart is not as impressive, but he mentions he was doubled the most out of any receiver in this draft class and his chart is still really really good.
Some new "Reception Perception" charts posted...
Brian Thomas Jr:
Ladd McConkey:
Adonai Mitchell:
Ricky Pearsall:
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4 hours ago, NFLfan said:
Thank you for sharing. Do you know why JT is unable to use videos from YouTube? He said something about not being able to use videos anymore. Does he have to pay for them?
I like O'Sullivan a lot and I appreciate his breakdown of videos. It is disappointing that he cannot use them.
No idea but they probably have been hitting him with claims for the rights of the videos.
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1 hour ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:
I just don't get the love for J.J. McCarthy. I get it, his team won the National Championship but he has Mac Jones written all over him. Penix team lost to his but if I had to choose between Penix and McCarthy, I would take Penix in a NY second. I like Bo Nix better than McCarthy too.
In a certain way he has a bit of Mac Jones/Cousins in his game meaning - he is supposed to be high level game manager who executes the offense, throws on time and is overall accurate and consistent with his ball placement. What might separate him is that he actually might be a much better athlete than Mac Jones and he has some hidden potential that was not realized on Michigan... they just didn't need him to do more so ... he just executed. If you watch some of his highlights you can actually see his mobility and ability to navigate the pocket at a pretty good level as well as make plays on the move.
He is also receiving glowing reviews from meetings with NFL teams. They just love his leadership and attitude. NFL teams think the guy is special and has the personality to lead a team. They also like that he's a winner ... for whatever that is worth.
I guess we will see in due time how he pans out... for whatever it's worth those Vikings rumors make a lot of sense when you consider who was their QB the last few years... and if you can imagine that he can pretty easily integrate into that type of offense... and then hopefully even provide some more playmaking with time then he might be worth the high pick?!
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7 minutes ago, Superman said:
Ironically, I think Nico Collins speaks to the benefit of having good QB play. He wasn't on anyone's radar before 2023 when he was playing with random QBs like Davis Mills and Tyrod Taylor, then Stroud comes along and now he's the anchor of a great WR corps...
Random WR 1, first two seasons: 24 games, 126 targets, 70 catches, 927 yards, three TDs
Random WR 2, first two seasons: 33 games, 143, 73 catches, 1,107 yards, four TDs
I mean... all it took is the best rookie QB year since when? Forever? And just because one player has made the jump doesn't mean another with similar early stats will. In fact, what Nico Collins did is the outlier, not the rule.
7 minutes ago, Superman said:You can guess which is Nico Collins, and which is Alec Pierce. Collins is the argument for giving Pierce some rope as a third year guy who will finally have a QB who can throw down the field. And it illustrates why I don't think saying Richardson can help the WRs produce better is the same as asking Richardson to drag a bad WR corps into the top tier.
To answer your question, I think Pittman vs Diggs is a discussion, because I think Diggs is on the way down and Pittman is a more well rounded X receiver. But please note that I never argued that the Colts have a better pass catcher group than the Texans. I argued that the Colts pass catchers have more potential than you're giving them credit for.
My argument was that other teams in similar position to us - cheap young QB who needs support and support can be afforded, were able to give that support to their QB. We on the other hand are relying on our super inexperienced QB to raise the level of our pass-catchers. Can it happen? I guess it can... I just hope in 2 years we are not still wondering what could have been if we gave AR more/better weapons.
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13 minutes ago, Superman said:
Okay, this is pretty laughable, IMO. Not only are you highlighting Dulin instead of the three WRs ahead of him who are actually pretty talented, you're also pumping up players that you didn't think the Colts should have targeted. The Texans signed Mixon. the Titans signed Pollard; Richardson has JT, who is better than both. I guess part of this is intentionally absurd and sarcastic, it just doesn't land for me.
It's not laughable. I only included the new players the respective QB will have. I'm talking about new additions and helping your young QB. I'm talking about intent to support your QB and make his life easier compared to the previous year. In addition to those... Stroud will have Nico Collins(better than every single one of our receivers), Diggs(Better than every single one of our receivers) and Tank Dell(better than everybody except MPJ... but might surpass him too). Lets play this game... you let our receiving corps on the Texans roster. Does ANY of them start? I don't think they do. I think both Collins and Diggs start over Pittman and I think Tank Dell would be ahead of him too because he's more of the speedster Z type. And Dalton Schultz starts over any of our TEs too...
13 minutes ago, Superman said:There are also diminishing returns with pass catchers. Just take the Texans -- they already have Collins, Dell, Schultz... add Diggs, and part of Mixon's appeal is presumably his pass catching. They'll figure it out, but just adding guys to the mix doesn't raise the level of production as significantly as it seems. And if one guy isn't getting the targets he wants -- like Diggs -- it could raise other issues.
Yes, young QBs need support. My thinking is that there's more potential among the Colts pass catchers and offensive weapons than you are giving them credit for. Sure, I'll take a monster WR, but that's a different conversation. I'm not as concerned about splurging for weapons. I think the defensive side of the ball is where we need more attention. I feel pretty good about the offense, assuming Richardson is good, JT is good and healthy, and guys like Woods and Ogletree are available.
Well... I guess we will have to wait and see. You know where my bet is... (that we keep having bottom 10 receiving corps in the league)
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44 minutes ago, MikeCurtis said:
We need a CB
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If we plan on playing zone all the time his awesome talent might be wasted
Interestingly enough, his PFF grade in zone is even higher than his grade in man. I think he can play both... but he has press-man experience, which would be helpful if we decide to man up more often or 3d downs.
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10 minutes ago, Superman said:
I think those pieces from Atkins and Holder are puff pieces, and I don't find them particularly insightful. It's laughable that Atkins teased his article the day before like he was going to be offering some meaningful perspective, only to repeat the same things we heard for two weeks with some week old Ballard quotes sprinkled in. So if your response here is basically an extended eye roll at that kind of stuff, let me get out of the way so you can cook. I'm fully with you there.
But if we're talking about the Colts roster, then there's two things to consider, IMO. First, what the Colts think of their roster. If they think they have talented young DBs, and feel like Pierce and others (including Pittman) have more to offer with a playmaking QB, and maybe think the pass rush can be improved with better coaching (this is NCF's angle, I'm not so sure about it), then I think it's pretty clear what the strategy is. Specific to WR, we know very well that the passing game has been held back by QB. We also know how important good QB play is to any team. So it's not 'we're going to put the entire weight of our team's future on the shoulders of our QB.' It's more like 'we think we have a good roster already, and with better QB play, we think we can go further.' And I think your early point about Ballard's approach being ironic is kind of off the mark.
Yes, we've seen this type of approach work wonders in the past for us... not addressing OL followed by complete collapse of the OL, not addressing DB followed by disastrous DB season, not addressing DL and relying on the youth followed by meagre pass-rushing season. What could possibly go wrong with just sitting on our deficient roster and hoping that various groups will just... improve? And yes... there are usually internal improvements to be made from young players, don't get me wrong... but those improvements in huge number of cases are incremental, not huge jumps.
BTW if they rely on AR to turn Pierce, Pittman and Downs, who were a bottom 10 receiving corps in the league into a great one, that to me screams even MORE reliance on AR, rather than less. In essence what they would be wanting out of him is to do what Luck used to do - turn mediocre receiving groups into great producing units. I'm not sure if AR is ready for that. I think at this point he needs more help from his receiving group, rather than the other way around(although, Pierce might indeed benefit purely from the style of play we can practice with AR, compared to Minshew).
10 minutes ago, Superman said:The second thing to consider is whether they are right in their assessment. I know you disagree. I've voiced my own concerns. But it could be that as the season plays out, the corner position is better than we think, maybe we see better pass coverage over the middle of the field, maybe the pass rush is better. On offense, maybe Pierce and Woods give us some explosives, maybe JT healthy and locked in makes a dynamic pairing with Richardson, etc. I wouldn't bet on all of that working out, but I think any of those prospects is realistic on its own. Even if you don't agree, it doesn't mean they're just waiting for the QB to fix everything.
Yep... as I've said before and above... I disagree with their assessment.
10 minutes ago, Superman said:Another element is whether they could feel great about their current guys, but still do more than they've done so far. Some veteran insurance at corner and safety -- especially after Ballard called himself out for having such a young secondary; some OL competition, etc. There's still the draft, and I think some of the areas we're all eager to see improved -- WR, DB, edge -- will be addressed there. But I think they could do more, and I think they'll probably add a vet player who can supplement one of those groups.
Oh they will definitely add more vets after the draft. This is what Ballard does every year. he fills the holes with what is left over after the first and second wave of FA. Doubt any of them will be difference makers of any sort.
10 minutes ago, Superman said:My gripe with your argument is just that I think it misrepresents the approach. It also downplays a fundamental fact that we all agree with -- good QB play is crucial to any team's prospects.
Good QB play is very important to any team's success, indeed. My problem is that we are not doing enough to support our QB and improve the chances that he has a season of good QB play. Young QBs need support... especially ones as green as AR is and the very fact that we are relying on a rookie scale QB should have been enough to allow us to actually splurge on some weapons for him. While Stroud will have Diggs and Mixon, Levis will have Calvin Ridley and Pollard, as it stands right now, AR will have Ashton Dulin.
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5 minutes ago, NewColtsFan said:
Sincere question: How do you measure Ballard’s arrogance? Perhaps you’re using it in a way I might not. And that’s ok. I’m just trying to understand your thinking on that viewpoint.When he makes snide remarks towards reporters asking him legit questions about the pass-catchers of this team for example. When he continues professing the same damn philosophy that has brought little to no success to this team... I just don't see any sign that he actually has learned something or changed anything in his approach to team building. I think he's dug in and unwilling to move. This to me is stubborness and arroggance.
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Just now, Superman said:
I don't remember exactly what words he used, but he all but called the Wentz trade a mistake.
It's really confusing to me how many people paint Ballard as a megalomaniac.
He's not megalomaniac, but he is stubborn and sometimes pretty arroggant for the limited success he's had with this team.
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6 minutes ago, Superman said:
I don't really see the irony. I actually think this argument is a misrepresentation.
I think the more accurate way to describe the team's approach is they think the roster is good, and having a playmaking QB will make a huge difference. We all agree with the second part, in principle, right? Whether or not the roster is good enough remains to be seen, but that's probably where the disagreement lies.
The team was whatever it was last year(if they thought it was good, then good, if they thought it was mediocre, then mediocre) and it should be pretty much the same this year, except for AR. I have no idea how much of a difference he would make, but I think it's fair to say whatever improvements they expect, they expect them to come mainly from AR. Hell, you can read Atkins and Holder's pieces, who seem to have talked to Ballard and this is pretty much what emanates from those pieces. It's about AR, the whole point of those pieces is precisely this - to explain how not making any moves is good and getting AR back will make the difference.
You know what I think about this roster and where I think we are weak. AR doesn't fix any of those areas.
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Colts have the 15th pick in the draft. (MERGE)
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