Dilger85
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I would like to see something like this play out:
2nd: Willis/Bowser or King/Wilson; if all four are gone then trade down lower in the round
Traded 2nd: Barsham/Rivers
3rd: Griffith/Tankersley if Edge drafted in second; If CB drafted then Hendrickson from FAU if Barsham/Rivers are gone
Of course all of this could change if players continue to slip based on other teams' needs. In general, I am a huge proponent of BPA. If Lamb or Cook are sitting there in the second then I would have no issue drafting either one.
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NFL Network, Mayock gives the best analysis by far. I am warming to Daniel Jeremiah. I am also glad that they moved Deion to interviews over the last couple of years.
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1 hour ago, SP_21 said:
Suggs is an exception to the rule. No need to reach for Harris when better defensive players will be available
The Ravens still drafted him 10 without knowing how he would turn out but trusted the tape. Point is if you believe in the guy then draft him.
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8 minutes ago, SP_21 said:
Josh Robinson looked great on tape...
Terrell Suggs ran a 4.84 at the combine, examples on both sides
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Lighten up Francis
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1 minute ago, Track Guy said:
See, I believe it does matter a whole heck of a lot for an edge rusher if a guy isn't athletic enough. I think tape beats combine numbers, but then again I think there's a threshold you have to hit before you can succeed at the next level.
My view is that the combine stats cannot tell you who can exceed at the next level, but they may give you a very strong indicator of who can't.
I agree with this to a point. The numbers and the tape are telling two different stories, right. His pro day is huge for him. I am hoping he is around in round 2 when the Colts pick. That would be a chance to get a productive player with a little risk in the 2nd.
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6 minutes ago, krunk said:
None of that reflects what he's putting on the Tape. And the Tape matters more than any of that stuff.
Still, I am wondering if he will not be available with the second round pick due to the poor numbers. Very good for the Colts if that is the case.
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Just now, Jared Cisneros said:
Before i leave for a bit, i will answer this. The teams that don't spend in FA are usually re-signing their own to large contracts. We couldn't do that except for Doyle this year. That's why we should of signing a couple top FA's. We have the cap to fill a couple holes for 5 years properly.
Right but Zeitler, Bouye, and Gilmore are three guys that have signed that fit an area of need. There are still many very good players available. I would rather get value and I am not sure that the Bouye deal will work out in the end.
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2 minutes ago, Jared Cisneros said:
I'm fine with Ballard right now. Most people are giving him the benfit though out of blind faith and homerism just because he's the Colts GM and he's done nothing yet. All I see is a pattern of repeating Grigson's mistake in FA. You have to spend in FA, so might as well not spend it at the bargain bin.
But that is wrong, successful teams rarely spend big in free agency. If they do it is for one maybe two pieces. As you have stated the Colts need a lot of help. One big time free agent is not going to turn the tide. Spending on one "elite" free agent when you can get 3 or 4 above average players not only fills more holes but your overall team should be better for it.
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1 minute ago, Jared Cisneros said:
Exactly my point. They suck, so they need the help. We suck as an overall team, yet we aren't filling any holes or getting any top tier FA's. This is why it's all screwed up.
The point that some of us are trying to make is this: the good teams do not go nuts in FA because they are built through the draft over a span of a few years and make smart money decisions in the open market. Get good quality players in FA to supplement depth and get your play makers through the draft. It is cheaper and more effective. The Colts are taking the Green Bay model which is to build through the draft. This rebuild of the defense might take longer than one year. You cannot make the necessary moves to build the defense and do it correctly in one off-season. I think that you can make enough improvements for the defense to compete but probably not have a great defense as that will take time.
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1 minute ago, Virtuoso80 said:
and Dwayne Allen Trade
Well yeah but the question was specifically FA which takes out trades and resigning your own.
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1 minute ago, jvan1973 said:
How many of the playoff teams from last year have made big splashes in FA thus far?
So far, 1-Pats with Gilmore(if official)
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11 minutes ago, Jared Cisneros said:
So in reality, we weren't interested in anyone? That makes me feel a lot better, lol. Just like Grigson.
It has been 65 minutes, relax you are wound a little too tight right now.
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35 minutes ago, throwing BBZ said:
I`m not assuming anything about the guaranteed $$$.
We are trying to build a SB contender and we are at least 2 years or more away from having a team like that. IMO. Next season will be a Getting to Know You/our system year.
So yes, sign a guy that can EARN his Big contract when our team can compete.Do i like the odds, for the $$$ likely spent on him? NO!
Please let the Bears pay him and bite the .... ...!
Then what's your point? I was just pointing out that this big money is not really all that long of a commitment. Moot point it seems anyway.
What exactly are you referring to with "Getting to know you/our system year? The coaching staff hasn't changed at all. Are you insinuating that the players, GM, and coaching staff need a year to gel? That makes no sense.
The Colts will not be competing for a Super Bowl next year true, but you can't necessarily chose to wait because what if a player like Jeffrey is not available when you are "ready" to contend? Free agency is fluid and if you have a chance to add talent and it makes sense then you should, IMO.
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2 minutes ago, throwing BBZ said:
Uhhhh never heard that before.Good grief!
3 yrs of production at those $$$$ IS long term in the NFL.You are assuming that the three year salary at 14.5 is all guaranteed. My point was, don't.
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3 minutes ago, Fisticuffs111 said:
I mean, we don't know, but I seriously doubt those two don't wanna sign with us. Especially since Bouye is trying to stay in the division.I also hope the Colts go all out on Bouye.
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Just now, Fisticuffs111 said:
I mean, we don't know, but I seriously doubt those two don't wanna sign with us. Especially since Bouye is trying to stay in the division.Right, the point I was making that if a FA the Colts were targeting chose to sign somewhere else, it is not necessarily the fault or approach of the Colts. Getting back to Jeffrey though, that price that Holder floated is steep. Depending on the structure you could go that route but I don't see the Colts paying him more than TY.
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25 minutes ago, Fisticuffs111 said:
Yeah, I know how contracts work and you have a point.
I just think it's a shame that we apparently won't pay for guys like Zeitler or Bouye, but will for an oft injured guy like Alshon at a position we aren't exactly hurting at.To be fair though, it takes two to complete a deal. What if those guys you mention just don't want to be Colts or like other situations better? You can't force free agents to sign with you. I look at the Colts interest in him as the draft is deep in defense specifically edges and defensive backs. The draft does not have a lot of WR talent so if they are wanting to improve the WR unit then FA might be the best bet.
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2 minutes ago, Fisticuffs111 said:
Or, I don't know, people are worried about paying a guy who's lower body has already seen lots of damage $13 mil long term.That is really not how the NFL contracts work typically. Pay attention to the guaranteed amount not the term. NFL contracts are usually written for the players to be able to be cut after year 3 at the latest.
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1 minute ago, Boiler_Colt said:
Or they could you know...just get a better defense.
Getting Jeffrey wouldn't prevent that though.
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21 minutes ago, Shive said:
My mom/sister/wife/daughter wouldn't provoke or push someone as they were walking away, so that's a moot point. I have a hard-line stance on domestic violence. People like Greg Hardy are monsters and don't deserve to play in the NFL. Mixon had one incident where tensions were high, he was physically provoked, and instantly reacted. I don't think what he did was right, but that was 3 years ago. You're condemning this kid for life for a mistake he made 3 years ago and had never done before (not a pattern of behavior).
I will say that I am not a fan of women that take advantage of the societal norm of not hitting women by hitting and provoking men with the expectation that they can do what they want with no recourse. In a point in time where gender equality is an issue at the forefront, it seems a bit odd that a woman feels its ok to throw a punch, but not take one back.
That's where the interviews come into play. You drill him, you talk to his family, friends, peers, teachers, coaches, etc. to find out as much as you can about him and who he really is.
I didn't comment on your last part here, but yes that would be the bare minimum that you would need to do, but I still would not draft him. I am willing to overlook pot, bar fights, underage drinking, and a host of other "baggage" but this is one of the very few things that I consider almost unforgivable.
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7 minutes ago, will426 said:
He's a top 3 back who's being pushed down for off the field issues so taking a risk could be worth it lol but highly doubt it with irsay
I would happen to agree with Irsay then.
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5 minutes ago, Shive said:
My mom/sister/wife/daughter wouldn't provoke or push someone as they were walking away, so that's a moot point. I have a hard-line stance on domestic violence. People like Greg Hardy are monsters and don't deserve to play in the NFL. Mixon had one incident where tensions were high, he was physically provoked, and instantly reacted. I don't think what he did was right, but that was 3 years ago. You're condemning this kid for life for a mistake he made 3 years ago and had never done before (not a pattern of behavior).
I will say that I am not a fan of women that take advantage of the societal norm of not hitting women by hitting and provoking men with the expectation that they can do what they want with no recourse. In a point in time where gender equality is an issue at the forefront, it seems a bit odd that a woman feels its ok to throw a punch, but not take one back.
That's where the interviews come into play. You drill him, you talk to his family, friends, peers, teachers, coaches, etc. to find out as much as you can about him and who he really is.
I was asking you to be empathetic, didn't really care about the actual probability of it coming true. No you don't or you would not be rationalizing his conduct. No I am not, I am just stating that I would not want the Colts to draft him. It really has less to do about gender equality and more about brute strength. The reasoning is the damage caused, please do not equate her shoves and slap/punches with his right cross that knocked her out and banged her of the table while breaking bones in her face.
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2 minutes ago, Dingus McGirt said:
This discussion - while interesting - is wasted. The Colts will pass on him, even if he is available in the 2nd - 4th rounds. Colts organization and most fans will happily/smugly pat themselves on the back. Colts organization and ALL fans will then spend the next five years quietly fretting over what could have easily been. Write it down. LOL
This makes very little sense. The running back class is deep in this draft. There really is not a reason to take the risk with him. We could select another running back with no or at least lesser issues and get a quality player. I know some fans want to though as it is a premium talent for maybe cheap. I would just prefer to go in a different direction. I do not think that is smug at all.
Way too early mock draft
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Where did you get that info from? The Rams gave up 2 1st round picks, 2 2nd round picks, and two 3rd round picks.
They received a 1, 4, and 6.
The Eagles gave up 2 1sts, a 2, a 3, and a 4.