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  1. Kraft brings 3 Big Name lawyers to fight these charges https://abovethelaw.com/2019/03/robert-kraft-quinn-emanuel/
  2. I can see that you don't need a jury. I mean there's video tape. No need for anyone else to see it. Judge will know if he's guilty.
  3. His lawyers say he does not have to be there https://www.bostonherald.com/2019/03/07/robert-kraft-ordered-to-appear-at-florida-arraignment/
  4. It's not a moral high ground. For me it is outrage that this is happening It's not good for the women It's not good for the country And places like this are not good for relationships between men and women. Same sort of demeaning effect that pornography has. There's just nothing good about it except from the perspective of the operators who are raking in tax free dollars......same as drug dealers. I would be happy to see no more of these 'massage parlors' in any of our communities. They're toxic
  5. The law has a way of bending to money as in the Jeffery Epstein case. But I think he would need the prosecuting attorneys to be complicit and I don't think these prosecutors will do that. Fingers crossed anyway. There are quite a few wealthy types that got caught up in this.
  6. I read an article this week about a young tech entrepreneur worth 10 Million who got addicted to a place like this. Said he's paid more than $20K over the past 6 years. He said he chose not to think about who these women were and how they came to be there. Said he knew it likely wasn't good. BUT he became addicted to this 'type' of thing to the point where it's ruined him for real relationships. Said he loved the ego-stoking. I bet that's what happens with men that go to these places. So, it's sad for them too. You are right, I am making an assumption. He knew, he didn't care. Probably cannot prove it as it's just very difficult to prove. Edit: It's my understanding that Kraft is denying any wrong doing whatsoever. Says he did NOT solicit a prostitute. I would imagine that's pretty easy to prove unless they somehow get the tape thrown out of court. https://mynews4.com/news/nation-world/patriots-owner-kraft-denies-charges-of-soliciting-prostitute
  7. The Patriots Stadium sponsor is Gillette. Gillette recently changed its tagline to, “The Best Man Can Be,” in an effort to represent the brand’s commitment to promoting healthy representations of what masculinity means. There's a petition now to ask Gillette to drop that deal. https://whdh.com/news/thousands-sign-petition-calling-for-gillette-to-drop-stadium-sponsorship-after-kraft-charges/
  8. Kraft’s arraignment is scheduled for March 27 at the courthouse in West Palm Beach. https://www.foxnews.com/us/kraft-arrest-shows-how-florida-has-become-nexus-of-sex-trafficking
  9. I think it's all part of creating plausible deniability for him. He's a guy with options both with women and for massage therapy. He's also not a stupid guy. He doesn't drive across town for no reason. It's more likely than not that he knew what was going on. I don't doubt he'll be able to get out of it. Police have a very hard time proving servitude https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/crime/article226942349.html Apparently, Flushing NY is the main part of this syndicate. Indeed, there's a New york lawyer defending one of the arrested woman I think what law enforcement did in this case was a good move https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/02/us/massage-parlors-human-trafficking.html This is organized crime. This is corruption. Yet, I'm seeing a lot of headlines like 'punishing Robert Kraft won't end sex trafficking' It's repulsive to see fans and the media turn a blind eye to this. It's willful and not good for the country. This past week I watched a show on the global economy. One episode about corruption talked about this sort of thing happening everywhere. For example Dubai https://qz.com/88278/dubais-towering-skyscrapers-are-built-by-a-horrifically-exploitative-labor-system/ Their point in the end was that the more corrupt a country is, the more the inevitability that its economy would flatline. It's not sustainable. People seeing this sort of thing in the United States and not being concerned are turning a blind eye. People who pump money into it are really willfully blind. If you don't care about the rise in indentured servitude, perhaps you care about the impact it has on the country? I would think that most Americans would care about organized crime and corruption. People are proving me wrong. They don't care. In this case, you're just saying 'they can't prove it' Probably not. I still give props to the way law enforcement tried with this one. It got attention. It needs constant attention. I hope they publicize all men who are busted at these places. Edit: Significant recent increase in sex trafficking in Massachusetts https://littleton.wickedlocal.com/news/20190303/robert-kraft-case-spotlights-sex-trafficking-in-massachusetts
  10. Yeah the NYPost owner is a friend of his I believe. At least they appear to be so http://www.zimbio.com/photos/Robert+Kraft/Rupert+Murdoch/Philadelphia+Eagles+v+New+England+Patriots/MFaYPMM-R2Z https://www.mediaite.com/online/ex-ny-post-writer-rupert-murdoch-killed-story-on-patriots-owner-robert-krafts-gambling-ties/ Also, none of the other major media outlets carried that particular story. That's why I didn't mention it here. Seems like PR
  11. I did see that and I wondered, since the tapes haven't been released how the NY Post would come to have that information
  12. When you post a statement like this, please include a link so people know what you are talking about. https://sports.yahoo.com/report-patriots-character-coach-bill-belichick-confidante-resigns-amid-robert-kraft-scandal-033507450.html Also, we already have a thread about the Kraft/prostitution story so, this thread cannot be that https://forums.colts.com/topic/61404-robert-kraft-charged-in-prostitution-probe/
  13. Agree. I wondered about them releasing the names without actually charging them as well. Not sure why they did that. Must have been intentional.
  14. A Martin County law firm files petition to block the release of names and video tapes because the plaintiffs didn't know they were being recorded by law enforcement. Also want to block releasing identifying information on 'customers' if they haven't been arrested or a warrant issued. The goal is to protect the privacy rights of 'spa customers' and prevent irreparable harm to them. No word on who the law firm represents https://www.wptv.com/news/local-news/martin-county/law-firm-files-emergency-petitions-to-block-release-of-video-photos-audio-from-prostitution-sting There is one woman still at large that they are looking for https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6747247/Eight-Chinese-women-arrested-Floridas-statewide-investigation-international-sex-trafficking.html
  15. I don't understand how these investigations work and how people are charged but not arrested nor even contacted yet......but their names get released. Apparently some but not all names have been released, at least that's what 'sources say' Is that how these things happen? I would have expected 'charged' and then ALL names released. Or at least names released as they are charged. Or are they talking to everyone's lawyers and deciding IF they will pursue charges? BTW, even the link to the story I just read referenced prostitution rather than human trafficking. Was anyone other than the primaries in the business there by their own free will? I'd really like to know that. https://www.thedailybeast.com/robert-kraft-is-just-one-of-many-rich-and-powerful-men-busted-in-florida-prostitution-ring It's confusing Update: They had a press conference today. There will be no more names forthcoming. Everybody has already been named. https://www.tcpalm.com/story/news/crime/2019/02/25/florida-state-attorney-news-conference-jupiter-spa-tied-human-trafficking-operation/2980993002/ It sounds like they want more people to speak up about what they've seen. I understand that they moved these women around and at least some of the women on video tape have since been moved and they don't know where they are. However, they're emphasizing that video evidence should be enough in court. None of the customers have been charged with human trafficking as of now.
  16. Honestly, I'm heartened to see so many law enforcement agencies working together and following all the threads. Props to them and I hope they take this whole syndicate down.
  17. I've been trying to figure out what happens for the women who were victimized in these 'spas' Near as I can determine, they have to be certified as victims. This means they need to be willing to cooperate. Cooperation is dicey because trafficked people fear corruption and reprisals from all sorts of sources including not wanting their families to know what happened to them. Anyway, they have 13 mandarin interpreters working with these women and it appears that 2 are willing to cooperate https://www.tcpalm.com/story/news/crime/martin-county/2019/02/19/live-martin-county-sheriffs-office-holds-news-conference-multi-agency-investigation/2914137002/ They keep stressing that the investigation is ongoing. They have some work to do to break this thing down and I don't think it will be easy. They are up against a large and wealthy criminal enterprise. This investigation began 8 months ago with a complaint to the health department https://www.nbc-2.com/story/39993598/2-florida-women-accused-of-running-sex-trafficking-rings-out-of-day-spas Multiple law enforcement agencies are involved. The Jupiter police were able to make progress on the investigation because of customer reviews being posted on a website https://www.thisisinsider.com/rubmapscom-jupiter-police-sex-trafficking-sting-2019-2 Federal law enforcement and homeland security have been following the money and say they they never imagined that there would be this much money involved. Millions have been seized so far. 10s of millions involved so far. “tracking money from China into the United States and laundering it here and sending it back other places to be laundered.” They said they operate these places like franchises. Like drug dealers, shutting down one is just a cost of doing business for the operators. Law enforcement has their work cut out for them. The major players arrested so far have charges of human trafficking, racketeering, unlawful transportation for the purposes of prostitution, deriving support from and engaging in prostitution. https://www.tcpalm.com/picture-gallery/news/crime/indian-river-county/2019/02/21/human-trafficking-indian-river-county-spas-major-players/2942287002/ 'johns' who have been charged so far have not been arrested as near as I can determine. I wonder if any of them will have information useful to investigating this criminal enterprise. 100s of charges so far and the investigation is ongoing
  18. Florida should be under a microscope right now. I mean the prosecuting attny office
  19. Add to that that the prosecutors don't cut some kind of a deal that allows them to go to jail just to sleep, and go to the office during business hours for a year and a half. That's the deal Epstein got for trafficking in girls on his creepy private island
  20. My daughter just sent me this It's a bit long but it did the trick
  21. I'm gonna need to watch a kitten video now
  22. I think you are right. Looks like multiple locations, states, and countries https://www.tcpalm.com/story/news/crime/martin-county/2019/02/20/details-florida-sex-spa-human-trafficking-cases-released/2929679002/
  23. Was it just Kraft's name that was released? How'd that happen?
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