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4 hours ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:
This sure seems like it was on Goodson. Hard to know if it was taught this way or it was on him.
He is a 3rd string back and it looks like he ran the route wrong.
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Just now, Superman said:
For me, it's the idea that any skill player on the roster should be able to make that catch. Acting like throwing to Goodson is irresponsible, like he isn't capable of catching a wide open pass, is what misses the mark.
And really, I think the bigger problem on the play was Minshew's bad throw. Yeah, Goodson should have caught it, but Minshew really blew it. Terrible footwork, rushed throw, off target.
Kurt Warner had a really good breakdown of that play. Basically he said Goodson should have ran more towards the sideline in an arcing route but instead ran more upfield. Minshew threw the ball where he did to keep it away from defenders (meaning he didn’t lead him on Goodsons route).
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3 minutes ago, ShuteAt168 said:
What makes you so confident he was the right player to be in, when the result was a drop? (Yes, pass was off but still catchable). And he’s caught a total of six NFL passes. Not being snarky, I just don’t understand the firm belief in a player who hasn’t proved anything on the biggest play of the season.
I would’ve liked to see one of our more reliable players involved but they would’ve been defended differently I believe. Also, every proven player was unproven at some point.
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Just now, Superman said:
I keep going back and rewatching that clip. I don't think the pocket had collapsed, I think one rusher came from the left. And with anticipation, the QB could have hitched up and had time to throw. Instead, Minshew bailed, and I don't think he needed to.
Again, we're talking about an impressive level of anticipation, pocket presence, and poise. A much better QB probably makes that throw look routine.
Agree that a better qb either mentally or physically can make that happen. Manning did it for years without having the strongest arm, but Manning is Manning. But asking most standard size/physique QBs to make that throw on the run is a tall order and Minshew is undersized.
I think one of our guys fell to one knee (Nelson maybe?) and that opened up a clear line for two defensive linemen to Minshew from around the center.
But yes, a more physically gifted QB can make the throw on the run and a smarter QB or one with better poise makes the pass.-
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4 minutes ago, Superman said:
I think Minshew could have simply hitched up and made this throw. He's fleeing the pocket because that's what he does when he senses pressure, but there's room in the pocket, and more than enough time for him to plant and throw. But that requires anticipation.
To be fair, the pocket had collapsed. He had maybe enough time if Pierce was his first read but it was Pittman. He pump fakes to Pitt as he was covered and that’s when he had to scramble out.
We have the benefit of slow motion replay and a better view of the field than any player has. Again I’m not arguing that Minshew isn’t failing to use Pierce. This just isn’t a good example of it.
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1 minute ago, Superman said:
Pierce being open has nothing to do with Minshew being on the run. With some anticipation, he could have planted and thrown to Pierce.
I agree that this isn't the smoking gun example of Minshew missing Pierce, but for me, it's just the latest exhibit among a mountain of evidence that there have been opportunities to get Pierce more involved.
Again only freakish QBs could’ve done that without going into a full mechanical throw. He was being pursued and running. His release isn’t fast enough to get that ball out with accuracy before getting clobbered.
I’ll give him grief on some things but asking him to do that ain’t one of them. He’s a backup and for a reason.
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Just now, Superman said:
Just watching the clip you posted, I don't think he anticipates Pierce being an option at all. I've also watched this happened over and over again all season.
He shouldn’t. That’s not a throw he can make on the run like that. He only has had success throwing deep when he can fully plant and wind up.
Im sure there have been other examples where he should have seen a blown coverage and maybe take a shot but this wasn’t a good example of that.
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1 minute ago, Superman said:
It's true that this isn't a play that most QBs can make. My bigger problem is that Minshew isn't even aware of the possibility that this play can be made, because he appears to be complete oblivious to the fact that Pierce is coming open. He's totally consumed by the pass rush, he panics, and the play is over.
I'd probably be less disappointed in plays like that if Minshew at least appeared to see the blown coverage and acted like he might be trying to make the play. But over and over we've seen plays just like this -- including plays that wouldn't require a freak athlete at QB -- and Minshew doesn't recognize them. Then people come online and talk about how Pierce doesn't get any separation...
It’s one thing to say he can’t make those throws with the level of accuracy needed but it’s another to assume he isn’t seeing them. He’s prolly aware that the route exists but he knows (and the defense knows) it isn’t a viable option.
I’d also be curious to see how often he’s been pressured throughout the season. Last night felt like he was almost immediately flushed out.
2 minutes ago, Superman said:I didn't like the long FG, but it's hard for me to be too upset about it when the kicker had plenty of arm and just barely missed.
However, on the flip side, Demeco Ryans had a similar situation, punted, and they pinned us at the 1 yard line. We could have used a favorable sequence like that...
At that point in the game flipping the field position battle would’ve been huge.
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3 minutes ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:
100%
Anyone think Hughes faked that injury to kill the colts MO
Did he come back on after one play?
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1 minute ago, richard pallo said:
I hope Ballard and Irsay both have a conversation with Steichen about the importance of playing situational football and player utilization. You don’t pay your best playmakers to sit on the bench when the game is on the line. He failed miserably yesterday. From the obvious last play to going for it on 4th down in th middle of the field late in the game when they could have pinned them back deep like their punter did to us on numerous occasions. Field position matters in games especially in a win it all game. He was out coached yesterday. Every one knows it and saw it. He is being criticized every where for how he coached yesterday. Irsay should be angry and so should Ballard. I’m sure they were not expecting that kind of performance from him. Only one third down conversion the entire game and it came at the end of the game. That’s remarkable. And not putting the game in the hands of your best playmaker is mind boggling. Not even on the field when he’s averaging 6 yards per carry. He could have been a decoy if you wanted to try to trick them. A wasted opportunity and all the coach has to do is look into the mirror to see who is at fault. He let all the fans and his team down yesterday. That is the Gods honest truth.
I think the under-discussed issue of yesterday was field position. We were constantly pinned back. Part of that is on the defense not forcing 3 and outs or getting them off the field sooner but also Steichen twice should have punted it and didn’t. I’m usually pro-aggression but that was not wise.
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9 minutes ago, JediXMan said:
This is what Pierce had to deal with this most of the season Minshew was so awful last night.
I think this particular example isn’t a good one. Asking any non-freak of nature qb to bomb it while being on the run laterally is a tall order. Stroud could do it and AR could do it but they’re specimens.
I get what you’re saying however. I feel like most teams know Pierce is a decoy most of the time and will take the risk of letting him get behind them. Once we get a QB who has even a breath of accuracy deep I think we’ll see. I would’ve like to see him used in different ways once teams figured out he wasn’t really a threat.
However pierce has had his moments where’s he’s dropped “easy” passes. He dropped a contested pass early in the game I believe.
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8 minutes ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:
One good thing is we don’t have to root for the Titans today. lol
I will. I’d rather Houston win by sliding backwards into it than hear about Jax and sunshine being so great. I’m petty like that I suppose.
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1 minute ago, conklincolt said:
pass was thrown behind him in the first place if thrown in front it was a catch and maybe even a TD with a blocker in front of him.
If he had thrown it leading him he would’ve gotten smoked by the LB. Warner pointed this out in his analysis.
It hit the receiver in both hands, was beyond the FD marker.
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18 minutes ago, throwing BBZ said:
Let's believe Steichen had our play designed and we practiced it multiple times just the way it was ran.
Minshew made an instant decision to throw it to the wrong shoulder creating an impossible catch opportunity. Warner would make a great coach.
So impossible it hit him in both hands?
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7 minutes ago, richard pallo said:
It was a horrendous use of personnel. He never should have been on the field. If you are going to run that play pass it to one of your playmakers. Not an ice cold player who won’t even be on the team next year. Yet Taylor’s on the sideline averaging 6 yards a carry. Inexcusable!
I’ll agree it should’ve gone to a better player.
However, JT had hand surgery not that long ago, maybe they didn’t trust his ability to catch in that scenario, though I know he had multiple receptions that game so who knows.
I also see why they did it. It was unexpected. Had it worked it would’ve been hailed as brilliant and could’ve started Goodsen to being a known player. Still, game on the line, go with your ballers.
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5 minutes ago, NewColtsFan said:
So I suggest let’s hear what Steichen has to say about his most controversial call of the season…. And all three of you laugh. You LAUGHED!
You weren't even interested in his explanation.
So when I say this franchise deserves a better fan base, guess who I’m thinking of? Hmmm? HMMMM?!?!?!?
Thanks for outing yourselves.
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Just now, coming on strong said:
running backs dont have the same catching ability as wrs and a 4th string running back its even harder .
He’s a RB in the NFL. If the ball hits him in both hands he needs to catch it, regardless of where it was thrown.
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Just now, Happy2BeHere said:
You must be a politician..you know omitting words to make your statement valid.
i said if the ball had been thrown harder with more zip and another 1-2 feet I believe it would have been a catch.
And if my grandmother had wheels she would’ve been a Buick.
Just now, NewColtsFan said:
I do hope this is your attempt at humor?
Otherwise…. ?????
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1 minute ago, Happy2BeHere said:
Really? What did I say earlier? That it was under thrown and the pass hit the receiver just on the fingertips. My opinion has not changed. Not sure where you say I was a “far cry” on what I said before lol
18 minutes ago, Happy2BeHere said:Hands no…fingertips yes. I don’t think most anyone would have caught it as it was under thrown
Most anyone wouldn’t have caught it? Odd way to characterize a drop
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1 minute ago, Happy2BeHere said:
And again in my opinion it was under thrown. Had that ball been just another 1 foot or 2 further (more heat on the pass) it would have been a catch IMO
Far cry from what you said earlier.
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Just now, holeymoley99 said:
What kinda cable you have that doesnt have 101 ?
Channel 6. Espn still saying it was a drop.
3 minutes ago, Lancer1 said:Says it’s a drop
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Just now, holeymoley99 said:
Its on now turn it on channel 101
Not a real channel. #fakenews
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Just now, holeymoley99 said:
NFL Network saying bad throw,do they count as media ?
Proof?
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Just now, Happy2BeHere said:
I don’t need to review it on ESPN, I’ve reviewed it on NFL replay 25 times now.
Reviews it 503949292 times. Hit him in both hands.
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So you didn’t watch the video?