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  1. 17 hours ago, Goatface Killah said:

    Thats pretty ridiculous.

     

    How do you know when they "wanted" to stop him and when they wanted him to run for over 10 yards? Which he did a mind boggling 7 times in that game btw.

     

    Oh I know......

     

    They didnt stop him very often all game....... But those are the only times they actually "wanted" to stop them?

     

    How convenient for your opinion.

     

    Gardner Minshew absolutely did not make any "amazing" throws in that game. Cmon man. 

     

    Based on defensive schemes. They were more spread during his bigger runs and playing closer to the line when they wanted to play the run. Teams do this all the time, it isn’t a new concept.

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  2. 9 hours ago, Goatface Killah said:

    So the Texans allowed JT to keep us in the game........and almost beat them, because they were focused on our passing game, which features Gardner Minshew who cant hit a wide open RB in the flat, and a bunch of recievers that, also according to you, arent very good either.

     

    Doug, you're hilarious. As usual. 

    It’s not that far fetched and is actually pretty sound.

     

    When the Texans wanted to stop the run, they absolutely did. Four times on the last series actually. The touchdown was a missed tackle and as stated, everyone else was scattered. On the season the Texans typically allowed a bit over 3 yards per carry before Saturday.

     

    I think they thought to take their chances with a less than 100% JT rather than risk letting Minshew hitting someone open for the big play. Slows the game down and makes it more predictable.

     

    I know it’s the trendy thing to think Minshew is terrible but he did make some pretty great throws that game and has the capability to do so.

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  3. 2 hours ago, Zoltan said:

    so we agree 4-5 yards which is roughly 12-15 feet, and you are saying two steps....

    Average WALKING stride is 2.5 feet for an average man. 6 steps. Football players are larger but regardless. Two parties moving towards eachother is roughly half that, so 3 steps. Add in running and you easily have two steps or less.

  4. 1 minute ago, husker61 said:


    yes I did, and he said when he played they ran it a different way. Who cares! The play was open and the throw should have been made.

    Then you missed the point. Warner said Minshew out the ball where he did so as leading him would’ve put him in the path of two defenders.

  5. 3 minutes ago, Zoltan said:

     

    Did you see how much space there was? The ball just had to be placed two feet to the right, the defenders were no where near him....

    Less than two steps. Leading him would have put Goodson on a collision course with the free defender. Pitt had one engaged.

  6. 3 minutes ago, husker61 said:


    yes, and you throw back shoulder to receivers when they are covered and they are ready or it. You don’t do that with a wide open back 10 yards away, you led him with the pass!

    And right into two defenders? 

  7. 1 minute ago, Superman said:

     

    Don't you think it's speculative to say that Goodson didn't run the route properly? We don't know how the play is coached.

     

    By contrast, I don't think it's speculative to say that Minshew's footwork was wrong. We know the fundamentals of QB mechanics, and when you're closed off on the left side, you're undermining your power and accuracy on a throw to the left. Yes, it's a quick throw, but that's why your mechanics have to be on point.

     

    Agreed that Goodson should have caught it, as is. 

    Not speculating on whether he ran the wrong route but rather showing why Minshew put the ball where he did. Pitt had two defenders on him and they were two steps away from Goodson. Had Minshew led him on his trajectory it could’ve ended poorly. 
     

    How likely that scenario would’ve been, who knows. But we do know Minshew has turned it over often enough for that to at least be a possibility.

     

    Now the pass itself needed more velocity and I think you have a point with his feet. More velocity would’ve put the ball higher or closer to Goodson which is better than trying to pluck it out of the air.

    5 minutes ago, husker61 said:


    he said they ran the play this way, who cares! The colts ran a play that was open, with a very easy throw to make, and the throw was awful. I bet Kurt makes that throw every time weather the receiver runs the right rout or not. It was a short easy throw! 

    So you didn’t watch the video. 

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  8. Just now, Superman said:

     

    Watched Warner's video. There's some good stuff there, and it's possible that Goodson's route wasn't perfect. But we don't know how the Colts coach that route.

     

    What is undeniable is that Minshew's feet are wrong, he's closed off to the left side, and has to fight across his shoulder to throw the pass. He is not under pressure. He could have opened up to the left with his last step, and made a better throw. Instead he rushes it and throws a pass that was not as catchable as it could have been, even if Goodson's route wasn't great.

    By design it’s a quick throw. He put the ball so as not to lead Goodson right into the bodies of Pitt and a defender(potentially a second defender as well if they reacted quick enough).

     

    The ball hit Goodson in the hands. Could the throw have been better? Absolutely but so can tons of other throws. Warner explains why the ball was put where it was and the logic holds up.

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