BloodyChamp
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How come you dislike Rodgers so much? I know you loved Favre but man, Rodgers is the best right now even when he has a stinker like vs the Bills.
The bad game is 1 thing. Everybody has them, but alot of quarterbacks manage to take their team down the field 1 time at the end to win it in spite of the bad game. Rodgers never does that. A few other guys don't either sure...but for some reason Rodgers gets a pass every time. If I had to choose 1 quarterback to play against in the last drive of a tie game, it would be Aaron Rodgers.
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Why is everybody all butthurt about about this? The original post wasn't even about the GOAT. It was about stats and it was truth bomb that doesn't get dropped enough.
If everybody is going to act like a girl about it, atleast get this thread going toward the inevitable Brady/Manning debate so the rest of us can laugh.
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You said the magic word! Logic. When it comes to peoples opinions there is no logic!
U mad bro
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Having the most interceptions in NFL history immediately removes you from the GOAT debate.
Pretty much the single most important stat there is that relates to wins is turnover differential.
This is also why Luck isn't MVP just yet, but as soon as he develops a bit more and gets those int numbers down he'll make a great case for MVP
Favre is 1 of 3 or 4 guys on the top INT'd list who isn't also on the most TDs list or in the HoF, or both. I guess they're removed from the debate too?
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Brett Favre is my choice for the GOAT if we're using that logic.
I've considered that logic before this discussion but it just doesn't quite do it for me. Believe me I wish I could call Favre the GOAT without question based on his insane peak but I grudgingly think the big picture counts more. With that said, Favre is still my pick for GOAT but I realize that it's debateable, and him as my pick is a long story.
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The way I look at things, Warner was a better QB than a guy like Brett Favre because he was a more dominant player (even if more erratic and less durable) but if you wanted to compare them based on their entire careers and the sum of all their achievements you'd obviously come to the conclusion that Favre was better since he had a lot more quantity to his success.
Wouldn't that logic then make Brett Favre the GOAT? He was the MVP 3 times in a row and in those 3 years the only playoff games he ever lost were al1 SB and and 1 NFC Championship game.
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Every team in danger of missing out almost deserves it. Look at what a joke the NFC East was for a long time. Now look at the North fresh off an 8-7-1 division champion.
Anyway I don't think they should change a thing, and I don't see how adding more playoff teams like they keep saying will fix this. If every division winner has a winning record, common sense tells you that that's that many games that their division opponents lost. There is a bigger possibility of having more than 1 additional playoff team with a losing record under the would be mew format than there is of having another division winmer with a losing record under this format first.
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Anybody but the Packers and Saints, and it's not just the Favre fanboy in me. Brees is trash and Bountygate was a sham regardless of who got the worst of it. I'm also sick of the Packers just having so many easy games handed to them, then getting deatroyed in the tough games, then everyone acting like that never happened (granted that Bills game appears to have stuck in people's crawl).
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An excerpt:
"In 2008, NFL Films debuted a special entitled, "Top 10 Records That Won't Be Broken." The No. 2 choice? Johnny Unitas' streak of 47 consecutive games with a touchdown pass.
The record, which had stood for 48 years, was placed on par with Joe DiMaggio's 56-game hitting streak in baseball. The closest anyone had come to Unitas' mark was Brett Favre's run of 36 games, which ended in 2004. In an era of increased injuries and ubiquitous parity, it seemed safe forever.
In 2012, four years after the NFL Films special, Drew Brees blew by Unitas and pushed the record to 54 games.
One year after that, Tom Brady made it to 52.
And earlier this season, Peyton Manning's streak ended at 51."
"Records are meant to be broken, of course. But they should also provide structure for comparing different eras, a task rendered nearly impossible by the NFL's most recent passing explosion. Effectively, we're in the midst of the NFL's "Steroids Era," a time when an above-average performance exceeds the best in history and an elite one obliterates it."
The bolded says it all.
What's record when it will just broken for no other reason than the fact that it's easier to now?
I've been of this belief for years but that last quote really put it well.
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I hope he stays in the NFL if it's what he really wants. He's gotten the worst of breaks going all the way back to his days as a Bear.
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That would be AWESOME
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Technically, Bill Belichick got fired in his 1st head coaching gig in Cleveland & now he is universally respected as a darn good coach in NE since 2000 with 3 SB rings & 5 SB appearances as head coach in his 2nd coaching job. Pete Carroll also a SB Champion got fired in NE too & he's doing nice things in Seattle.
I don't really count Bill Belichick's 1 day as the Jets head coach succeeding Bill Parcels BTW.
Regarding Josh McDaniels, he started out alright in Denver. Yes, he got fired by Pat Bowlen, but you try winning without a franchise QB & don't throw Tim Tebow & Mike McCoy at me either. That season was pure lightning in a bottle.
Marty was a disgrace as an OC. No argument there. Even I can't defend his tenure in NY.
A ton of good coaches get the axe in this league, get a 2nd chance, & do great things. Getting fired doesn't automatically mean you suck at what you do. Sometimes, failed opportunities make you a better teacher with a change of franchise scenery.
Bill and Pete are actually old DCs, 2 of the few old DCs who don't suck at offense. Besides, I clearly didn't lump those 2 guys in with Weis and company.
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Gruden went so far so fast as a coach then lost fire similar to Ditka. If he came back, I think the outcome would be similar.
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Are those same players doing as well without those OC's?
If you still don't get it, I can't help you either.
Aren't they? I think that Brett Favre guy did alright before 2000 and I know Brady hasn't won a ring in a while but Weis is who has been fired more times than Brady has had pass attempts since his last ring.
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It's not all that mystifying to suggest that certain OCs suck when their only success has been when they were on the same sideline as Big Ben, Kurt Warner and Brett Favre.Upon further review, did I miss a headline here?
Who is the coach who is winning without good players? Seriously, go back as far as you need, who is winning without good players.
Your argument appears to be the OC's weren't good, they had good players and HC's around them.
Expand that if you need beyond football. Which coaches are winning without good players?
Your logic is mystifying....
Obviously Bevell just got a ring but he'd been living off of Brett Favre for years, then had to be bailed out by him again in 2009. Meanwhile I bet any Seattle fan would rather keep Lynch than Bevell.
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Offenses have it so bad. 10 yards and stuff...
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All those guys are considered average to better OC's. And Weiss has 3 super bowl rings as an OC.
And about as many .500 seasons elsewhere under all of his job titles since combined, including the 1 he was just fired from.
Warner. Ben.Haley was the OC when the Cardinals lost to Pittsburgh in the Super Bowl.
Favre. Holmgren. AP. Lynch. etc.Bevell won a Super Bowl with Seattle doing a nice job with their offense.
Favre. Homlgren. Rice. Young.And Mohrningwig has been successful as well.
If you still don't see the point I can't help you.
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Tell that one to Josh McDaniels who got fired in Denver & Marty Mornhinweg about to be let go in NY. Easy? Enlighten me BC, what's so simple about it? I'm all ears...
You just mentioned 1 guy who cost his team a game because he didn't know the rules about timeouts. The other guy was firesld as a HC and has only been a good OC under Tom Brady and Bill Belichik. So let me clarify...it's simple if you're not a *.
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Seriously? You really think that?
I've never seen anyone else make that assertion. And I've been following football for more than 45 years....
Look at all the * who have been OCs...Morninweg, Bevell, Haley, Weis, etc.
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This reminds me of how on Facebook, people post statuses calling people out then tell the person to get off their page when they get a response they didn't be on.
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Thank you Fox.
Yeah...the game probably won't be *that* good but it's better than the Buccs every week which is what we get down here.
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lol. Just commenting on the season. I did watch the season but forgot how the Jets finished. I looked it up. They were 9-7 after starting out 8-3. One of the biggest free falls in football history.
Or can't read...since I explaines the finish in my post.
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These rules have helped reduce concussions about as much as war crimes have reduced war.
Michigan goes all in on Harbaugh
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And no hardware to show for it. I personally believe in the guy but alot of people don't because of this. A dropped TD from 1 SB as a player, a couple of muffed punts from another as a coach, and people have already forgotten that the NFCCG was the real SB last year.
He was never on a good team as a player either.