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Apples and hammers offenses though ...
False, both ruin the integrity of the game. They are both cheating offenses, not the same offense twice.
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Mike Francesa adamant Colts at minimum get a NE draft pick.
http://player.radio.com/listen/station/sports-radio-66-wfan-ny
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I am just relaying info as I get it. You can ignore it if you want ...
I will considering how *ic the source is (not you but random callers on radio shows). Next time think before you post something that doesn't contribute.
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Apples and hammers as you would say. There was a hit ring going on in New Orleans. We are talking about the psi of game balls that are only handled by the QB and the equipment manager. I still think Bill gets fined or maybe Kraft because you have to hold them accountable for a rule violation whether they knew about it or not but no draft pick or suspension I would think. I think this comes down on Brady or perhaps the league. What Brady says is crucial to this whole thing. He can shed the most light.
We are talking about multiple offenses in a championship game that ruins the integrity of the sport, not an issue with player safety. Bountygate could be the same as Rice or any other type of violent crime it just happened to be on the field but this is an integrity of the game issue. Ignorance is not an excuse.
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I have only been listening to the radio so no link. It was a caller from Indiana who said it. All he said was Luck like his balls inflated big. I am sure it is somewhere out there.
Guys the caller from Indiana knows Luck's psi preference it's settled now and in no way could the Patriots have intentionally tampered with their footballs while the Colts balls remained the same psi all game.
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The Pats should move to London, a win win for football fans in both countries and puts a light chuckle on the whole revolutionary war thing.
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oh they mentioned his preference in Boston but not in Indiana or any other outlet? seems totally reasonable
I mean they do intercept Luck a lot so they can test the balls. This story holds up. Definitely just the weather not tampering at all.
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They mentioned Luck's psi on the radio here.
I agree about the balls. That is my point. IF the Pats balls all lost the same amount and it was 2 psi than Brady has some big time explaining to do which he will at 3:45.
Guys they mentioned Luck's preferred psi on the radio here that settles it.
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If the Pats win, Brady will go down as the greatest QB of all time. It won't matter what some bitter Colts fans perception is, the Colts got humiliated in a Championship game so now they're deflecting the attention away from that shalacking with this.
The SB is tarnished, lol.. whatever it takes to make you get over the loss, the Pats are getting ready to fly to Arizona and compete for another Super Bowl.. and the is nothing you can do about it.
Could not disagree more. Even the most casual NFL fan will know he has been very good for a long time but cheating follows him, his coach, and his team.
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Have you read or listening to Bill's press conference? He said the Pats keep their balls at the lowest acceptable psi. He said going forward they will make sure to inflate past the minimum so the balls don't dip below the accepted minimum limit after use.
In terms of the footballs, it has not been revealed if the Colts balls lost pressure. Only that they were within the acceptable limit when examined which makes sense as Luck likes his balls inflated more than Brady. If the Pats balls were right at the minimum than it stands to reason that all of them would have lost air and be below the range. I agree with you that if all the balls are the same amount (2lbs) under than something is fishy here but as you have said before, the NFL has to prove the tampering. Brady is going to speak today at 3:45 p.m. EST. Bill basically handed this mess off to him so he must have insights into this.
FYI - word here is the Pats org is very upset at Brady and that he may have been careless with his prep. Not sure if that is just a rumor or a way to deflect off of Bill but that is what the scuttle is here.
So much for Kravitz wanting Kraft to fire Bill, eh? lol.
That's a lot of IF's right there, based on your guesses on what Luck likes his balls at. Also you are very naive if you believe a word of Bill's press conference. 40 years in the league and he doesn't know the process for game balls but knows every minute detail of the practice balls. Either way 2 full square pounds below compliance? Obviously saying they keep them at the minimum is an excuse but TWO FULL SQUARE POUNDS in less than a half in normal weather? Are you kidding me?
Edit; either way if Luck likes his balls at the highest you could have, it would mean all his balls would have dipped 1 pound below the minimum. Yet, they were all in compliance.
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Ex-NFL referee: All 12 Patriot footballs were underinflatedApparently the last one wasn't as bad as the others but still was not in compliance.
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If anyone wants a break, NFL Lip reading 2015 is here
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Don't understand the concept of tongue-in-cheek huh? See my other comments from yesterday. There is no ducking, dodging, diving, or deflecting from me. Regardless of the advantage it did or did not provide, and regardless of the fact that the Colts didn't even show up last weekend (ask Dwayne Allen), if they're guilty, they should be punished.
Either way that was a completely unnecessary personal shot. So thanks for that.
You're very concerned about "class" in sports... but you probably don't care much about Irsay's track record, or that Marvin Harrison probably had something to do with someone getting murdered. But whatever. We're evil, got it. Embrace the hate.
The same Marvin Harrison your coach tried tripping up on the sideline the last time we faced them in the playoffs in 04, you know, during a game?
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28-0 in the half with confirmed legal balls
Not even remotely relevant. Also not the issue.
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The fact that this thread is still debating as to how the balls could be deflated is ridiculous. Go back to Monday before Chris Mortenson dropped the bomb that 11 of the 12 were deflated after the fact both teams' balls were approved by the refs. Intent has already been established, only issue is who/how and suitable punishment.
Again naysayers, I implore you to listen to this http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2015/01/21/mike-francesa-on-deflate-gate-this-is-a-nightmare-for-the-nfl/
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Don't forget the "trick" formations against Baltimore.
I would imagine the competition committee will take that up as well, in regard to allowing the defense sufficient time to substitute.
You would think the coach would call the NFL to confirm it's ok, even if that doesn't happen you at least warn the refs beforehand so they aren't intimidated and having to rack their mind for the rule and just letting the game play out to the Ravens dismay. Smart tactic by BB because it worked so well. Too bad we weren't paying attention to it on the Solder TD.
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If they were filled with warm/hot air at room temp they absolutely could in only an hour or two
This is the dumbest thing I've ever heard and I bought Eminem's Relapse album
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Not in a million years.
If by some act of God you got your wish, any punishment would be appealed and would not be completed until well after the SB
Which is why it pays to cheat.
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As a Colts fan, never has a loss felt so good, knowing our organization has forever cast a negative light on this cheating franchise. You're welcome.
This. A lot of heartache in plenty of these losses over the last 15 years but it feels great knowing the Colts and Jets have ratted them out and destroyed their legacies.
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I'm telling you guys, Brady is going to take the fall, claim ignorance, get 25K fine, put it behind him, and win next week. Slap on the wrist.
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Yea, they even had to eat his suspension foe the first 4 to 6 games.. every single team has some players that are guilty of something (2 Colts players are facing some very serious allegations right now), but this double standard is what's obvious.. the Seahawks took all their suspensions and moved on, you didn't have mass hysteria leading the way saying that they had a competitive advantage (which they did) and that any of their wins were tainted.
You have people doing the opposite, saying they SYMPATHIZE with them lol.. the Pats are the villain, I get it.. it comes with success and it doesn't help that we have a HC that doesn't come across as very likeable with the media, but thems the breaks
Josh McNary's serious allegations is off the field and was dealt with promptly as he was moved to the commissioner's exempt list. Not sure who the second player is that you are referring to.
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Brady presser moved to 3:45, unlike 4 pm originally scheduled.
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Matt Leinart tweeted that ALL Qb's "tamper" with their footballs. Mark Brunell said "19 years and I've never ever heard of this".
What are we, as fans, supposed to think?
WFAN's Joe and Evan spoke about this and said they wouldn't consider Leinart an NFL QB. Peter King from SI also called Leinart out on the ridiculousness of it.
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Thats nothing but your own speculation, based on nothing but a general disdain for the Patriots which also makes it very bias
Harbaugh already publicly stated that there were no issues with the balls in the game against the Pats.. and again, playing the unfair advantage angle is so incredibly off the rails when 2 very popular shows that test the physics to support or debunk theories that people have both proved that there couldn't be any advantage between a 11 psi and 12.5 psi football other than a physcological advantage
Why don't you quote the rest of my response so it doesn't appear to be out of context. Like I said. They COULD have cheated considering it was a one score game, also considering they did a week later in a game they didn't need to. My point was that you can't say they didn't deserve to go to the SB. They couldn't beat the pats but they beat the Ravens at home earlier in the year and upsets have happened before in the NFL...
Patriots being investigated for Deflating footballs.....(Mega Merge)
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Despite the fact we are still debating the type of offense this is and whether it's better or worse than other types of offenses, or debating the science around the ball, at least we aren't listening to First Take debate on whether or not God has an impact on sporting events.