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On 1/27/2020 at 7:25 AM, chad72 said:
Matt Nagy is the reason I want Gordon drafted at No.44 if the Colts have him on their radar. Nagy and the Bears will definitely cover themselves should Trubisky not show him much in the upcoming contract year and it is a definite possibility Bears draft Gordon in Round 2, much like the Patriots drafted Garropolo in Round 2 a few years ago, for Brady insurance.
His ceiling may or may not be that of a QB that can carry a team on his shoulders but how many SBs have the Colts won with a QB that had the capability to carry the team, with the very first pick twice in the last 20 years, 1 SB. We have reached 2 SBs. I feel that, with a QB that can still make plays and that fits Reich's system, with Ballard's philosophy of providing plenty of support for his QB on D and OL, Gordon will fit really well if that is the direction they decide to go.
It will be like a Drew lock type of pick by Elway, IMO, if we get him at No.44.
I will tell you this.
I started watching the Colts in 1970 when they won Superbowl V (1971).
I waited 37 years to see another championship --- and for MOST of those years we weren't even playoff worthy. Maybe Peyton only won one for us, but that was one more (and two more appearances) than I saw for THIRTY-SEVEN years.
QBs are the key.
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We don't have three second round picks. Just the two.
And, I really don't think Love will slip into round 2.
QBs that might slip into 2 would be Fromm and MAYBE Eason.
QB's always rise and there are a lot of teams with question marks at the position.
Chargers need one. Does Carolina decide to move on from Cam Newton? Does Brady sign elsewhere or retire? Does Brees retire?
Too many buyers, never enough QBs.
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waiting doesn't work. we need a young qb now.
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7 hours ago, MikeCurtis said:
Quick......
What Super Bowl Lock QB is available at 13?
I would love to know that......
it’s a lottery.
Some teams have tried 5 times before they get a PLAYOFF QB. Let alone a SB QB
I’m sure we will get at least 1 in the first 2-3 rounds
we can always rush up to take Fromm or Eason at 13 just to say
“we got a QB!!!”
But...... we would be the laughing stock of the league.... and we would be trying for another QB next year
It's ALL a lottery. name me a Superbowl DT available at 13.
i'd rather gamble on a QB --- within reason --- than on a DT.
By the way, love your handle. Mad dog should be the HOF.
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Quick. Name Superbowl QBs
Now name Superbowl DTs.
I want a QB
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On 1/10/2020 at 10:18 AM, Gigc said:
Certainly is exciting to watch him let 'er rip. We haven't had a dude with an arm like that since Bert Jones back in the day.
I think he could be very good.
Actually, forgot about the unforgettable Jeff George ...
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Anthony Gordon.
I think Eason and maybe even Fromm go in the first round.
but it's early. still have the Senior Bowl, combine and workouts to go
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Certainly is exciting to watch him let 'er rip. We haven't had a dude with an arm like that since Bert Jones back in the day.
I think he could be very good.
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59 minutes ago, Shive said:
4. RW's concerns were all height related. The notion was that if he was a few inches taller, he would have been a top pick.
5. This was one of the first things I noticed as well. He could just stand up straight and flat-footed in a clean pocket. That won't happen in the NFL and I wonder how easily that lazy footwork could be cleaned up.
One thing is apparent with Gordon though; his release is lightning fast. He's got a lot of talent and if he can develop well, he could be really good.
Actually, the way Gordon stands flat-footed and motionless in the pocket reminded me of Tom Brady.
Obviously he'd have to work on footwork, but he stands there just like Brady does.
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To be fair, the guy followed that podcast with one interviewing one of Gordon's teammates and buddies who said he was dead wrong and that he thought Gordon was better than Minshew.
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31 minutes ago, BleedBlu8792 said:
I wouldn't take Fromm even if the Patriots gave the Colts one of their first rounders next year.
based on what?
i've watched him play. I don't know if his arm is strong enough. We'll get a better idea of that at the combine and in workouts.
but he plays like a GOOD pro qb. sees the field, works through progressions fast and doesn't panic.
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No offense, but it would be better to study 1978 through 1998 to determine how to create a Super Bowl contender.
That was the distance between Bert Jones and Peyton Manning.
If you have a QB, you have a darn good chance of building a sustained winner, and a shot at a Super Bowl.
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4 hours ago, PuntersArePeopleToo said:
Since 1997, the Colts have never made the playoffs in a year in which the same QB did not start in all 16 games. In that same time, the Colts missed the playoffs only twice when that happened (1998, 2001). In their entire Indianapolis History the Colts have made the playoffs 3 seasons when that was the case including a strike year (1987) and the back to back (1995, 1996). While this doesn't mean much, I found it interesting as that means in my lifetime (Born 1997), the Colts need the same qb to start all 16 games. Even 15/16 doesn't do it and we seem to miss the playoff by one game at that point.
Also, since I started watching the Colts in 2005ish the Colts have made the playoffs every year that the Colts QB started all 16 games.
yeahhhh but, all of those playoff teams were qb'd by either Peyton or Luck, right?
it's not just being healthy, it's having a HOF qb
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1 hour ago, Matabix said:
Personally I would go after a #1 WR or hope one of the top 2 LTs fall to us. Than top dl in 2nd. Than start trading picks for next years draft.
Give JB 1 more year with healthier receivers. If it don't work we can get Lawrence, and might not have to trade future picks.
To get Lawrence, you're going to have to have the first pick in the draft. You're going to have to lose 14-15 games. That's not going to happen with this Colts team.
that's why you can't just wait around assuming you'll get a QB down the line.
if you don't have the "one" you have to be actively trying to GET the "one."
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10 hours ago, Rackeen305 said:
I put Jay Cutler and Phillip Rivers at the same table. You act like Rivers is better than Russel Wilson, or even Desean Watson, or even Jimmy G. All these QBs are great. Not so much Rivers.
No no no no no. I live in San Diego. Rivers has been a damn good QB. MUCH better than Cutler. C'mon man. That's just silly. Rivers has been the best player on the Chargers forever. They've been riding him forever without a lot of help. He's had some good players with him, but he's been the man.
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By the way, there were a lot of experts who didn't think peyton would be peyton. Mechanical, not enough arm, etc etc
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Just sayin. Different positions have vastly different values.
LOVE Q. Love him. But if you think Burrow could be a franchise QB? It's a no brainer.
Burrow is not Elway. Elway was th esurest thing in the history of the draft.
All said, I don't think Bengals would be tempted by the offer
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On 1/3/2020 at 10:38 AM, WarGhost21 said:
There is valid thought process in the idea, sure, but Big Q is already a top 15 Offensive player in the league, not just along the line. He’s a top 5 offensive player under the age of 25. With a QB, even Burrow, there are question marks in the draft. Q is not a question mark, he’s an exclamation point. The risk just isn’t worth it IMO
This is is an interesting mind game. anyone here old enough to remember the Elway debacle? we ended up trading him for a hall of fame OT and QB chris herman. How'd THAT work out?
pretty great for Denver. pretty horrible for us.
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Eason's pretty accurate --- from the pocket. Not nearly as much if he's pressured. I think PFF had some stat saying his effectiveness dropped by two thirds when pressured. He's impressive when he has a clean pocket.
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This might sound weird, but we could experiment with Banogu at the three technique on passing downs. He was incredibly effective rushing from the inside rather than the edge, both on college and with us.
Gotta tell ya, I feel like getting a pass rushing DT is like our unicorn. We've been talking about getting one since the Manning years and they're nearly impossible to find. More flameouts than QBs.
On the subject of "fast," check out tape of Penn state WR kj hamler. Holy! Dude's not only FAST, he's fast from his second step!
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My nightmare is he ends up getting drafted by the Patriots--- and he goes on to become a cross between Brady and rogers!
Remember, I said nightmare. Not saying that comparison is even possible ...
Want some perspective on all of this? Google "quarterbacks drafted by year." Sooooo many names, even in the first round who never made it...
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Tell you what. I don't know if Gordon's game can translate up to the pros, whether he's big enough, or whether he can't play in a more NFL like system.
but he is absolutely the most fun to watch of all the QBs in this draft. the way he moves around in the pocket, heck, sometimes i've seen him hide behind an OL, most guys just start running --- period. he's got a little Tarkenton in him. And then, he throws the ball like he's playing baseball, wings it from all angles.
the thing I think he does better than any of the other QBs i've watched this year is he throws guys open. he can drop the ball into the most ridiculous spots --- and he leads guys really well, they never break stride. He's fun.
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QB is the most important position in football --- by a longshot.
yes, you need to build a good team. But, if you have a good quarterback you're relevant. Bad QB, you're totally irrelevant.
it's been that way for a loooooong time now.
Chad “Swag” Kelly
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Think I'd like to see Eason at the combine and in personal workouts.
He has first round talent.