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On 4/7/2019 at 3:58 PM, SouthernIndianaNDFan said:
Thanks. I'm just glad that someone else saw that basically every viable NFL news outlet was peddling that nonsense that day, so I don't seem like I'm just making stuff up. And yeah, a simple explanation and an apology should be enough, but there's guys on here that do nothing but comment on this site. They seemingly live to ridicule people on here, and I won't say what I really think about those people because then I'd essentially be them.
Yeah, we ALL know who they are... don't sweat it and we ALL feel the same way. I just happen to be willing to point it out because I don't need to validate my existence by getting "likes" on a message board. Some people EARN them, but most virtue signal to get them just like they do on the rest of social media.
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On 4/7/2019 at 12:03 AM, NewColtsFan said:
You're really serious about this?
Lying sleazebags?
NBC, which barely covers the NFL, I think they only have the Sunday night game on a weekly basis, and they rotate in the playoffs and Super Bowl.... and they've had it in for Irsay for a long time? Seriously?
PFT, an analytics based company is biased and misleading.... DAILY?!?
I don't know where this nonsense comes from, and I'm honestly not sure I want to know.... Goodness gracious, what a trainwreck....
You've never watched Mike Florio's PFT DAILY 3 hour show (2 on TV, one on Radio/Podcast)? Until just recently, you never watched Dan Patricks DAILY 3 hour TV Show? Uh, that was (until April 1st) 6 hours a day talking either entirely, or the majority about Football. Additionally they were partnered part of the week with Chris Simms who did another multiple hour podcast about Football and he had a similarly negative view of Irsay. He now appears exclusively for NBC, but back then shared his time with NBC and Bleacher Report. But "goodness gracious" I guess 6 hours plus (as there are more football related NBC podcasts like The Daily Line and The Safety Blitz plus Malone talks a lot of football in addition to people appearing on NBC that I am not even counting) DAILY sort of uh.. I don't know.. refutes your credibility above just a bit.
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On 4/3/2019 at 7:02 PM, SouthernIndianaNDFan said:
I'll be honest, I didn't read the article, so I have no context there. I heard this on NFL Network earlier today, and that's exactly how they spun it, so I assumed there was truth to that, and Googled the article as a reference point. In my profession they'd call that lack of due diligence, and I apologize for any confusion.
Don't sweat it man... anyone who actually cares about this back and forth isn't worth caring about in the first place... you have the hottest topic on the site... it's BORING around here... it's silly season and people who get all riled up over any message board must have nothing else going on in life. Watch any mainstream news channel and you'll get far more misleading and downright lies about everything non stop. I heard the same thing you did and it WAS presented all over the place as if he'd said it in the context you thought. I don't hold you responsible because the sports networks are lying sleazebags. NBC in particular has had it in for Irsay for a long time. PFT is especially biased and misleading daily. A simple comment letting you know you misunderstood his comment would have been legit, the rest is virtue signaling tripe.
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When we claim someone off the waiver wire, what does it mean? Do we pay anything/lose anything by doing that? If not, why not claim nearly every reasonably competent player available at your spot? I am just trying to understand, not advocating doing that. Thanks.
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4 hours ago, MarylandTerrapin said:
With the over/under having us at 9.5 wins, I copied and pasted this from my post in December. Many times it is not just who you play, but when you play them. This schedule should allow us to get off to a strong start and then get 3 of the final 4 at home against the division. With a possible 5-1 start in our sights, I'll take the over.
9/8 @ Jax 1pm (CBS)
9/15 MIA 1pm (CBS)
9/22 OAK 1pm (CBS)
9/29 @ Hou 8:20pm (NBC)
10/6 DEN 1pm (CBS)
10/13 @ Ten 1pm (CBS)
10/20 @ Pit 4:25pm (CBS)
10/27 ATL 1pm (FOX)
11/4 @ San Diego 8:20pm (ESPN)
11/10 BYE WEEK
11/17 @ NO 8:20pm (NBC)
11/24 CAR 1pm (FOX)
12/1 @ Tampa Bay 1pm (CBS)
12/5 TEN 8:20pm (NFLN/FOX)
12/15 HOU 1pm (CBS)
12/22 @ KC 4:25pm (CBS)
12/29 JAX 1pm (CBS)
It would be like the NFL to give us three national Sunday/Monday games all AWAY. That would suck. Is this the schedule or just made up? If it is made up, not understanding how any predictions could be made?
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I think our division is going to be brutal as is our schedule. Even with an improved team, we could struggle to have a top seed even if we win the division. I could see us ravage each other to a division winner with 10 wins max. That would mean one home game and then right back to NE or SD or KC. I also would not discredit Pittsburgh like so many others. I would not remotely be surprised if they won their division again. And they will have an easier schedule than normal for them playing the 2nd place schedule.
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23 hours ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:
True anything can happen like injuries. You do realize TY Hilton did not play in that game and he is our best WR by a mile.
True.. but it also showed a blind spot they finally (sort of) addressed with Inman. Imagine if we'd fixed THAT gaping hole along with the O-Line. Why did we lose to KC? Because Luck needed some WR help and TE help (since we'd long since ALSO lost TE depth and our true #1 receiving TE many people seem to forget). I fear we have the SAME problem again this year, with Funchess taking Inman's place (and being less reliable). And we were injury prone at TE, so here's hoping we draft a WR and TE early enough in the draft for them to be reliable targets this year. If we go a third year with not enough WR/TE talent come playoff race time to compete, that would be a shame. Our schedule is MUCH MUCH harder this year.
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3 hours ago, oldunclemark said:
That just isn't a major downside.
If he plays 'great', we may get to the conference title game or the SuperBowl
If he 'sucks' we didn't blow anything. We're supposed to acquire talent each year and there's no guarantee how anyone plays.
If he leaves, our financial obligations are clear for 2020...and we get a 3rd round choice. We basically purchased a future 3rd round (what you get for a starting player who played well) draft choice for $10-12 mil.
If he plays 'great' then we would not be overpaying him.
We would be paying market value for a potentially 'great' player.
There is no downside. None at all.
If he sucks and becomes a low level FA picked up for (relatively speaking) pennies on the dollar, I don't think it results in a 3rd round pick automatically does it? Please educate me as I honestly have never fully understood what rates as a 3rd round (I didn't even realize you could get that high of a pick in a case like this) or a 7th round compensatory pick? Frankly, I am not even sure I agree with giving compensatory picks to a team unable to sign their own people for whatever reason it may be. Why does everyone who runs their team more effectively pushed down all those picks in each proceeding round because another team couldn't or didn't choose to resign someone? Maybe you are the guy to finally explain it clearly and precisely to those of us who don't quite get how it works. (The "why" is a whole additional topic I don't expect you to explain).
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On 3/30/2019 at 12:14 PM, Defjamz26 said:
Cap room has everything to do with whether or not you over-spend on a player. Think about it. If there was no salary cap, it wouldn’t really matter how much you pay a player. When a team has a tight salary cap, it matters because what you pay other players becomes money that you won’t have to sign other players or re-sign your own FAs. Money is only wasted when money spent on a unsuccessful player prevented you from signing or re-signing a better player. Funchess won’t prevent the Colts from doing anything. Quenton Nelson, Darius Leonard, Ryan Kelly, etc... will still all get paid when the time comes. Funchess didn’t get some massive contract. He got market value, if not less.
You made my point. He got paid market value for signing a WR that early in FA. Not more nor less based on our cap room. The cap room didn't figure in anything beyond whether we can afford to sign a player at market value. We don't pay more than market value because we can waste cap space. We would NEVER waste cap space, no matter how much we have with this bunch of serious minded business people. We'll have to disagree on this one. Life will go on.
Frank really wanted him. Ballard indicated his price was up due to the timing of the signing during silly season, not because we had cap space to blow. But he was determined to give our coach what he asked for. That's a great sign that times are very different from the last regime.
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10 hours ago, throwing BBZ said:
I really enjoy, respect your and Sups posts. I am hearing 2 guys just wanting to B____ about something.
The guys trying to WIN are doing their thing.
And we ponder the possibilities and the why's.
Let's hope Andrew throws a lot of really accurate, with touch passes, and our catchers do a great job realing them in. So we couchies can be happier.
I would expect all fans want that. Not all fans come to discuss stuff during the offseason. If we're not putting our opinions on how things are being done or not done, what are we even doing here? You've been around a long time.. why are you here if not to agree, disagree, suggest, refute and chatter on about the all things Colts? I think all is fair game if you aren't making personal attacks and simply bantering the topic du jour. It hadn't occurred to me initially that we should have gotten a second year option attached to the deal. It may be because Funchess refused, it may be for a reason we don't collectively know/understand. But isn't the point to discuss what is going on and offer our opinions? It isn't like only a tiny number of people questioned both the player and the price including many veteran analysts all over the NFL universe. So it isn't 2 people complaining about anything. We're discussing ramification and alternatives. Fanboys simply shake their heads in sync with any actions their team makes, and trolls simply viciously attack both the actions and the people involved in everything. I don't think either of us qualify as either of those things. Half the time we don't even agree with each other, but when he's right, he's right. I enjoy the debate because if you are unwilling to talk to people who see things differently than you do, you live in an echo chamber bubble and learn nothing. We see that playing out all around us in the real world.
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11 hours ago, Defjamz26 said:
I never intended to make it seem like I was targeting you. My apologies. My real issue was with your comment that the Colts blowing money on Funchess. $10 million (because it’s $3 million In incentives ) is not a lot of money with the amount of cap space we had. Now I’d understand if we were tight against the cap and he chose to spend the little money we had on Funchess, but that’s not the case. Even if Funchess is a bust it doesn’t effect us in the long run. It’s not like we’re not going to be able to re-sign guys because we payed him. If we blew money on Funchess then you might as well say we blew money on TJ Green and Phillip Dorsett.
No.. I disgree 100% with your comment here. Our Cap room has ZERO to do with whether we are overspending on a player. The player has value, irregardless as to whether we have cap space or not. You don't waste money just because you have cap space. Can you imagine the disastrous contracts that would result? Plus, Ballard answers to his boss, Jim Irsay, who is paying those prices out of his pocket. Do you really think for a single moment that he's going to say "heck, we have lots of cap space, go ahead and blow my money on someone not worth it, it's just money!" Seriously man, you need to take a step back from your argument and re-evaluate. Funchess is worth what his market value is, nothing more nor less and the market doesn't care about anyone else's cap space.
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11 hours ago, Defjamz26 said:
Blew some money? That’s laughable. People here wanted us to throw millions at Le’Veon, Collins, and Moseley. But paying 10-13 million for Funchess would be blowing money?
Why make that comment to me to try and discredit MY comment? Please show me where I ever said to bring in Bell or anyone else? I certainly didn't want to throw money at any used RB, and I asked the question about Collins and Mosely simply from their playing ability, I even stated we should never have paid them what they got. I was simply finding something interesting to discuss AFTER the fact when it came up on 1070 the fan's coverage. So lots of dumb things are said here every day, but don't tag me on someone else's dumb comment to try and make a point to attack something I said. I think if Funchess comes here and sucks, we blew the money. Most people were surprised he commanded that much. I think we got an answer why from Ballard who said "that's the start of FA for you" in an interview addressing the size of his deal based on his drops and performance. Reich had a massive desire for him, so Ballard spent a lot to get him, possibly even more that he alone would have paid. It is a nice sign to see a GM actually try to give the coach what the coach is looking for compared to our previous GM, so even he gave a nod to the idea that was a costly 1 year deal for a WR off a really bad year of drops. So what is your beef? Argue my point, don't talk about someone else's nonsense and try to paint me with it.
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17 hours ago, Legend of Luck said:
I think that's really overblown. I think you can look at the Alshon Jeffery deal in philly as a great case study.
The Eagles brought Alshon in on a 1 year deal worth 8 million. ( Getting Funchess for 10 a couple years later is roughly the same price with the rise in cap/salaries)
Alshon played great and became the number 1 receiver on that team. A year later, he signed a 4 year deal at 13 million a year to stay with the Eagles.
If Funchess kills it and we can do the exact same deal or something similar, it'll be totally worth it in the end.
So then... why bring it up in the first place? I was crediting you because had you not brought it up, it wouldn't have seemed like a bad idea? Now you're saying I shouldn't have thought much of your comment in the first place? Confused?
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18 hours ago, Mr.Debonair said:
The kid that caught him from Florida is someone who will run a 4.4 or 4.3 in a few years at the Combine. That has track speed. Think he was clocked at like 4.5 going into UF as a freshamn
What is his name? Also, he seemed fast if Deebo is 4.5 or slightly better that kid looked A LOT faster.. people talk straight line track speed, but this was on a field with pads on and he was a good 10-20 yards back vertically and horizontally (i.e. an angle that he had to adjust to) so the angle may have helped a bit initially, regardless he was flying! Thanks Mr. D.
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11 minutes ago, Smonroe said:
I’m with you. I think DK is this years Cordelle Patterson. He had that long TD vs Bama then was shut down. He made his bones against some bad teams.
He does have that "too good to be true" vibe doesn't he? Of course NE found a way to win a Super Bowl with CP... just shows it's ALL SYSTEM and a QB who has done it so long you can rarely surprise him let alone fool him.
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13 minutes ago, LockeDown said:
Fans see mediocrity and our FO sees a diamond in the rough.
But the concern, first raised by Superman I believe, is still that he has a one year deal.
If he sucks, we blew some money, but he'll follow Grant out the door.
If he's so-so, he might come back, probably not, but he's not getting a deal anywhere else of note.
If he's great, his price just got jacked and he's 25, meaning we will way overpay for him now to keep him (plus likely a lot of years) or he'll walk. Sure, we'll get a draft pick presumably (it still is confusing to me) but we will have "fixed him" for our short term (one season) gain, but lose financially/contractually or see him go play for a competitor. Not a great result. It seems to me they had to flat refuse a 2 year deal for a reasonable price, so I wouldn't expect him to give us a discount as he risks his own future on a prove it deal.
So if Frank loved the guy, that sounds great to me. But Superman pointed out the major downside.
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30 minutes ago, Chloe6124 said:
I think it seemed clear on the first day of FA we tried to get both. There were enough tweets that it seemed like we did. In the end Collins wanted to play in WA. and the bidding got to high. Same with Mosely.
I don’t think ballard had a problem with the amount per year but no way was he signing them for that many years and that much guaranteed.
I get all that.. it didn't happen. But for fun (while very little is happening) I thought it would be interesting to mull over what a difference it would make had we signed both of those guys on top of what we have? Would it mean Super Bowl or bust? Would it be marginal? Would it be too many stars in the mix that would upset the culture? I think it's an interesting topic. I haven't heard anything about how these guys would or wouldn't fit our "culture" even though we discussed others like the two Pittsburgh players and their baggage to death. Who would EVER want to go over the middle with these guys lurking? Who could run against them? Who could do much of anything against them. Not only would it have brought in the firepower, it would have lazer focused the draft picks on the DL, OL, WR, TE, CB with far less worry about the rest of the D.
It's slow out there.. just thought it would be fun to kick around the interesting interview crumbs.
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Hi Folks,
I looked but didn't see this discussed, please meld mine into the other if I missed it. Today on 1070 the fan they discussed Peyton's Future with the Colts and Irsay's discussion with him among a lot of interesting stuff. But what I didn't see discussed here is that Irsay dropped two positions they pursued by failed, Inside Linebacker and Safety and the guys in the interview said Landon Collins and CJ Mosely. Both went for more than just about anyone here would have wanted to spend, but can you EVEN imagine having BOTH those guys plus Houston and the MANIAC all starting on D this year? Many people are favoring us for the Super Bowl now.. imagine that lineup.
I think All-Star teams rarely work out (didn't say "never") but man, I can't imagine all that firepower and another draft with a couple starters and more depth... can any of you?
It is discussed from about the 11 minute mark forward and restated directly (for you impatient types) at 12:03 in the talk. But if you haven't heard the entire discussion, it's full of info you will like including stuff about Ballard's intent to bring the last great Colt's era players back into the fold, beyond Mathis and Manning. They named Saturday specifically but his young kids mean the timing isn't right NOW, but it was more than implied that once he is more settled, that's likely to happen. Here's the link.
The topic I would love to hear from you all is imagine we added Mosely and Collins to what we have plus the draft. Discuss...
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16 hours ago, ManningGM said:
@ 1:57, 2:20, and 4:32
Thanks for sharing that. Looks like what I am talking about. I have one question though.. that kid from Florida chased him down from a ways back, any idea who THAT was because that dude was ultra fast? But I like him. I'll say this, it is a far more impressive highlight package than anything I have seen from Funchess and 4 years in the NFL. Completely different type of player obviously, but still, imagine him with TY teaching him? Where did he measure in the 40 speed at the combine?
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1 hour ago, Chloe6124 said:
Rumor has it is Kelly. AC, Moore, and the punter.
I would agree with all of them if they give us a reasonable home town/early extension deal. That would certainly be a good use of the money now so we don't have to pay it ALL later..
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3 hours ago, Irish YJ said:
I'm not comparing them to each other, simply describing them. They are both in a position group that will have to make some decisions. The both did play around 30% of their snaps out of slot, but that's about the end of their similarity. 6-2/220 vs 6-3/200. DP was closer in size though to our WR2 last year (Grant).
What will matter more than anything, is if we draft a WR, and if we do, what type we draft.
I hope it is a young burner like Hilton.. we have some big big bodies.. we need SEPARATION and a back up plan if Hilton goes down. Plus he's getting older and we need him to train the next great Colts WR like Harrison trained Reggie and Reggie trained TY.
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4 hours ago, Irish YJ said:
Pascal is a FA right now, so not sure if he'll be back. He had some flashes last year, but his catch rate was pretty bad (not as bad as Funchess though).
Thanks YJ, I mistakenly thought he was still in play. As you said, his catch rate was still better than Funchess and he was a low paid FA rookie. If he isn't on the team either, then who do we have again? Hilton, Funchess, Rogers, Cain and Fountain? Who am I missing? If that is it, we need to draft a WR with our 1st pick if any of the top WRs are there. If we sign Inman, then maybe one of the first 3 rounds. I will be surprised if Fountain is around and Cain is a complete ? so that is not a murderers row of WR talent. One injury to Hilton and what do we do? Just play Funchess and 3 TE's hoping Doyle is the target so the ball isn't dropped outside the endzone? Rogers needs to be the final WR on the team IF he even makes it. I think him being anywhere near #3 means a massive failure. I'd rather see Funchess at the #3 and someone great (Reggie Wayne to TY's Harrison) with our healthy Dallas Clarks (Doyle) and match-up nightmares Funchess and Ebron. People think Cain, I think it is too risky to count on that. Maybe Pascal will be in training camp and we can see if he has improved over the year. Thanks!
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21 hours ago, DougDew said:
Could be, but I don't think that Cain, Fountain, and whomever the third rookie contract is will settle into being enough of a threat to help TY; which I think would be the goal of the #2WR. I would want the D to fear putting just one DB in that guy and apply more defensive resources to stop him. I think Inman/Funchess is viewed as a stop gap and the younger guys as depth, but that's not to say that any of the WRs can't/won't elevate their game.
Why does everyone leave out Pascal? I think right now he's the second best receiver we have on the roster, every bit equal or better than anyone else outside TY. (Not counting Funchess, because he's gotten starter snaps for 4 years and Pascal hasn't, but I'd say they are 50/50 just due to reliability to catch the ball). Cain has shown zero, Fountain couldn't catch a wide open ball in the end zone right on his hands and no one else has anything special to offer. I imagine by default (and 10 large) Funchess will be #2 by the end of training camp probably before the first preseason game. I am sure he's working the playbook now and hopefully he's somewhere working out with that in mind. The chart will always list the veterans on the team, but it is meaningless until training camp settles it. Inman is in journeyman mode, if the Detroit offer is significantly better, I don't blame him trying to get what money he can before his time runs out. He has bills like all of us do. If Inman DOES sign with us, I think he is our #2 until Funchess can prove himself in training camp. We all hope he can do that.
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On 3/21/2019 at 9:26 PM, Boiler_Colt said:
I'm glad they didn't trade assets for a $18m 28 year old who's only had 1 good year. KC's asking price may have been higher for an AFC team as well and they likely preferred to ship him out of conference. Much prefer Houston for 2 years $12m per.
It occurred to me that maybe the reason he got so many sacks is people were so worried about Houston? (I know they had a 3 headed snake there, but alas, it's a theory).
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Yeah, I was surprised he didn't bounce back big in KC... don't know if it was that he dropped off after injury or the kid that took the spot was just that good. Ware definitely had some excellent games before getting hurt. I also suspect that KC just knows how to block for the running game much better than most.