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Sadly it's part of the ESPN+ crap they've been trying to get people to pay for for years. Sigh. Any other network, maybe.. but ESPN is so full of nonsense that it's sad he picked this as his place to go. I'd pay NFL Network for the show, but never ESPN.
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6 minutes ago, PrincetonTiger said:
Big OLB
Played against Jacoby
How is that possible? high school?
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2 minutes ago, ColtsLegacy said:
Welp, I hope that isn't his highlight film.
That was my thought.. shortest highlight film ever! heh
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1 minute ago, shastamasta said:
Maybe the Colts are switching to 3-4...haha. Would probably be seamless now...especially with who they have added.
I hope it means we're going to have a LOT of looks to throw at opponents. We need to trick Brady eventually.
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1 minute ago, BR-549 said:
Huh? Where did I say never?
No not at all. How did the Chiefs beat us? Which is a team at the level we need to be and were obviously not last year.
A combination of no pressure, not being able to cover, and not enough talented receivers - right?. Offensively no one could get open.
So they addressed, hopefully, some of the cover issues this year and perhaps even mildly the lack of rushing issue..... and maybe added a bit of offensive talent to address some of those needs.
I don't get your point.
Mine is those two you listed don't fit our locker room. And maybe the org. sees more than we do with what we have ..... FOR NOW - not forever. I think it is pretty clear they are always going to try to create competition. But it is my feeling it won't be Suh.
So then you are saying we DO need another DT threat up the middle? So where do we get it? If we already HAVE it, then we don't NEED it. So which is it? Do we need to add someone, or do we have someone? If you don't know the answer, then you seem (not putting words in your mouth) but you SEEM to be agreeing with me. Perhaps this opens the door to bringing in a FA experienced DT that is available. Right now, the top 2 by far available are Suh and Liuget. Do you have a third or fourth name for us to consider? If you don't think we should bring someone else in, then you ARE saying we already have what we need. Can we afford to wait until the end of training camp to learn we don't have it and then try at the last moment to cram someone in who got cut? I am not clear on what you are suggesting we do?
I am simply asking the question, does this open the door? and if so, would Suh or Liuget fill that need? If people wanted us to draft a top DT, then the only reason for that is if we still had a pressing need for that position. (I think we DO have a pressing need there). We couldn't get the right guy in the draft, so it seems logical to me to fill it with a FA if they can do the job for a year until we get another shot at drafting a young player to fill the void or sign perhaps a younger FA next year. But we still have this year to worry about. I can't see leaving us weak in the middle on the hopes that one of the existing guys steps up. I think the insurance policy is to sign a FA to fill the hole FOR SURE while continuing to develop the young guys. Hunt is no spring chicken either. And he's injury prone.
So what is your solution? Wait and see, fill the need in FA, fill the need in the 7th round or UDFA?
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1 hour ago, Irish YJ said:
Reich didn't call plays in Philly. He basically managed Pederson's scheme and relayed Pederson's calls. That's why I don't see our O as permanently being a mirror to Philly. I think we're trying to tweak for added vertical attack (hence the 3 speed WRs in the last 2 years)
I said the same thing about Parris (and OSU) above to Luck4Pres
3 speed WR's in the last 2 years. Who? Campbell and ? Cain? He's a complete unknown. Do you consider Funchess a major speed receiver? He didn't really show that in Carolina. Sure, he SHOULD have been breakaway, but I rarely saw any of that in his play in my opinion. I HOPE these guys all step up, but I have more at least a little more confidence in our Rookie already than I do in Funchess or a yet to be proven/coming back from injury Cain.
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1 minute ago, Coltsfan66 said:
I completely understand your point and respect it. I guess my quandary is, would it be wiser to roll with NT's in Hunt and Grover and UT's in Autry and Ward/Lewis? They are known quantities as opposed to a Suh or Corey. I like the idea of developing one's own players first, but would have no issue if either was brought in. I just try and look at the financial side.
I get your point.. but I don't yet see the "difference maker" among those guys. Hunt is either AWESOME or invisible. Same can be said about Ridgeway who flashes, but hasn't shown he's a front line big moment guy. Would you really not enjoy knowing you had Suh in there amongst the others when we needed him? I may be wrong, but I think it is worth asking that question. Many here wanted a first round DT. Suh is like having a short term top end drafted DT without the commitment.
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3 minutes ago, BR-549 said:
And part of that "rest" group .... we have not seen the full potential of Turay or Lewis, could be very high level players for all we know. Time will tell, but I cant see Sue here - ever
Perhaps you were not among them, but most fans though we'd draft a DT. You're saying we never needed anyone else and are 100% locked in with what we already have?
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2 minutes ago, Chloe6124 said:
What are Suh’s issue. I only know about the helmet stomping.
Well, when I hear Suh, the last thing I think about is "team player" and that's the biggest knock in our current team philosophy.
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2 minutes ago, Coltsfan66 said:
Let's look at the players on the D'Line that are actually on the team:
DE's- Houston and Sheard
NT- Hunt
UT - Autry
The rest- Grover, Ridgeway, Ward, Turay, and Lewis.
This doesn't count anyone drafted to this point. I don't see where Suh or Corey fit in? I am all for competition but throwing money away isn't the correct way to do it?
I don't think we're bringing any FA pass rushers in, but one more solid DT I think would be important to the rotation and top end strength. I guess I am not very high on Grover and Hunt/Ridgeway aren't enough for me.
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I would STILL bring Inman in to compete, though I doubt he'd come for that. But I want every WR on the team to be reliable options for Luck. We're in WIN BIG mode going forward. Doesn't mean we don't develop, but let's start at least with players who contribute AND develop from day 1!
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48 minutes ago, Chloe6124 said:
There is going to be some good players cut after training camp. It’s exciting but also sad because some favorites will probably get cut.
Like who?
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3 minutes ago, BR-549 said:
I see the need, but I dont see the fit. My guess is neither fit the locker room CB is building ... just a hunch and could easily be wrong.
Well, I think his intent was to build such a solid team that we could bring in a top talent at a spot of need and it would be able to tolerate any issues that player might bring with them.
Suh and/or Liuget could likely be had, after this VERY DT heavy draft, for a fraction of what they might have been worth most years. No one has commented on Liuget yet. He was suspended 4 games last year and also tore a muscle and missed much of the season. But he's a penetrator on D just like Suh... it really seems like either could be a big piece of our rotation at DT and make us super nasty in the middle.
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3 minutes ago, Shadow_Creek said:
i think it would depend on who we get as Un Drafted because for all we know CB could sign a good number of DT's
But are there UDFA's out there better than Suh? Don't you think we (or someone) would have drafted them?
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3 minutes ago, Chloe6124 said:
I am surprised we didn’t draft any trench guys. I could see us getting someone in FA. Suh would sign a one year with no problems.
You don't think he is looking for a 2yr deal at least? I realize it is a buyers market of course. Let's say we could get an expensive deal for 1yr or a more favorable deal for 2yr.. which would you prefer?
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4 minutes ago, krunk said:
I can see a situation where we might pursue Suh maybe
Are there any other FA's you could see us signing to help at DT?
4 minutes ago, NewEra said:We sure have the money to spend. Would love to sign Suh
Well, they aren't going to spend money just to spend money. But we certainly could use more help at DT!
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I was just think that this draft SEEMS to leave the door wide open to us signing a high impact, short term FA at DT. Corey Liuget or Ndom Suh? Of course it also leaves room for Ajayi or Ware at RB as well.
There's no question we're going to have some massive battles at LB, CB & S. There seems to be less competition at DT/NT. Why not bring one of these two DTs in for a short term look? I don't think we can be done at one of our biggest positions of need. I never imagined signing a player like Suh, but maybe all these Captains and Leaders we are drafting are ALSO building a team that could absorb antics from a guy like Suh?
Thoughts? And what other FA's might we now bring in?
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41 minutes ago, Mr.Debonair said:
Sounds like the S we took out of Clemson a few years back
Ouch
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1 minute ago, Bluefire4 said:
I'm not going to sit here and act like a guru and say I watch every snap of all the small school draft prospects. However, Khari Willis went to Michigan State who had one of the best defenses in college football with players like Kenny Willekes and Justin Layne. So I tried to evaluate Willis as I was evaluating Layne and Willekes(Willekes decided to stay in school).
I trust Ballard and believe he knows more football than I could ever dream of. Just giving another perspective here.
It's a mystery from me as to why they felt urgency for move up so aggressively to get this player. Not only did THEY want him, they must have had very good reason to think someone else (or multiple other teams) were going to draft him before their next pick came up. So it at least implies he was highly valued by at least one other team in addition to the Colts. Either that OR he was such an immediate fit for our team they just couldn't risk losing him. It is their urgency that made me drop the "dang, I was hoping for X player" and instead dig deeper into who this player was and what did I miss about him that had him so much more valued than I initially did. I hope he's the steal of the draft. For such an aggressive and out of character move, he certain has me excited to learn what that move was all about.
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13 minutes ago, Lucky Colts Fan said:
Does anyone?
Is that even possible to do by yourself?
That's my point. He had a team of people (he may not pay them, but make no mistake, he relies on a team of people to form his list, which makes his claims of doing on his own a lie in my view). He just doesn't pay people a salary to do it. He get's it for free like all the fans do. At least other guys pay their team.
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2 minutes ago, Bluefire4 said:
This is based off my opinion and my own eyes. I'm not relying on anybody else to give me information. I'm just calling it like I see it and giving my opinion on a forum. This is what this platform is for.
You can't expect every person to like every pick. Nobody is 100% right. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong. Not bashing Ballard, just don't like the pick.
I appreciate your honest answer. Most people hide behind some random other person's opinion to protect them. I had other Safeties in mind myself, but I also realized I knew very little about Willis beyond the simple evaluations I had read prior to the pick. Since the pick, I have learned more. Leadership is is calling card. He obviously has measurables that meet criteria for the job. I've seen evaluations that suggest he'll be a great piece of our team's needs. Other people disagree such as yourself. As long as you state is it simply your opinion, then cool, you would have chosen otherwise. How much did you honestly know about THIS player beforehand? I had others in mind because I had done a lot more research into other names beforehand, but not much into this player. So sure, I liked some of those players. I had to stop, spend some time checking out who this kid was and it became clear to me he has the team personality they want, and must have met or exceeded the other desires the team had. Heck, for them to aggressively move up 20 spots means they SERIOUSLY wanted this specific player and paid a hefty price (in my view) to get him. I am not a blind fanboy of Ballard (or anyone for that matter) but I DO respect our current team of scouts and execs and I know they know 100 times what any of us do about what they want/need in their locker room. For all we know he could simply be perfect for Special teams/back up only needs and they are CONFIDENT Geathers will be healthy and good to go long term at Safety. They may feel like this guy is perfect to be PREPARED to step up in case of injury, perhaps faster than some other options out there. There are so many variables we will NEVER have access to, it makes our decisions/desires blind no matter how much good faith time we put in.
I think of the WR situation. Ironically, I really WANTED Campbell all along and was thrilled that in one single case, the guy I wanted was ALSO the guy they wanted. None of us predicted more than one or two players in any given draft and most of us batted ZERO most of the time. Outside of obvious early 1st round picks, my guess is historically, no one here has gotten more than 2 picks right in any draft we've had. (I haven't seen that claimed/backed up anyway). It could be as simple as none of the other guys you wanted had the leadership skills they demand from their players here. Perhaps that ability/skill becomes even MORE critical for players viewed as long time backups. Think Reich. Imagine having THAT type of quality guy as a long time backup in your program? That's a lot of value to have. 4th round picks aren't often day one starters, but if you knew this was the type of guy who could be ready by week 4 to fill in for an injured safety on our team, THAT has a lot of value.
Anyway, thanks for your no nonsense answer. It's refreshing honesty we need more of here.
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35 minutes ago, NewColtsFan said:
Kiper doesn't have a team. That’s McShay. Kiper works alone. Always has. McShays team is two other guys who played college ball, as did McShay.
I'll agree to disagree. He uses other people's evaluations in setting up his lists. He does NOT go into each teams practices, watch every single game by every single team at all levels, o become knowledgeable about every single player listed through all 7 rounds. Believe what you want, including media fables created to sucker people into believing all sorts of nonsense. He does not do it alone. He is not breaking down each play, all 22 players on the field, for every single moment of all teams. He uses other people's work to put his list together.
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16 minutes ago, Irish YJ said:
In terms of boards, I look at NFL.com's (which IIRC is a composite of all of their guys), CBS composite, and some of the others. I try as much as possible to use composites than the individual experts. I don't agree with all of them, but they're decent.
Kiper's mocks and big boards have been pretty off, so he's not someone historically I put a lot of stock in.
Specifically on Willis, NFL.com's had 7 or 8 guys ahead of him. CBS even more IIRC.
I agree he's a high character guy. Like I said above, I think he'll be limited to a back up box safety. I'd take a more well rounded and higher rated guy. I'll use NFL.com's ratings to keep it simple. Willis was rated 5.3 (which means NFL back up or ST's potential)
Still available was:
Hooker 5.8 (chance to become NFL starter) - good size and speed, great big nickel potential
Thompsom 5.78 (same as above) - good speed, violent hitter
Johnson 5.61 (same as above) - good hitter and cover, team captain
plus 2 more in that same tier, and 2 others still above Willis.
Irish, since I consistently respect your posts, my question is this:
What is your theory then? Were Ballard and his team asleep at the wheel and missed not one or two but nearly an entire draft (7?????) worth of Safeties that were clearly better, OR is it possible they know something you don't about this player? Consider this: Historically, 50% of FIRST ROUNDERS turn out to be disappointing or complete busts. So consider ALL these prognosticators being completely wrong (horribly wrong in some cases) so often year after year. Then consider Ballard's success rate. Will he draft some busts? Sure. He already has. He's also got an impressive track record AND he's doing something completely different than all those folks you mentioned. they are doing LEAGUE WIDE evaluations of talent and abilities. Ballard is doing TEAM SPECIFIC evaluations for just our very specific needs and wants. This is why no "mock draft" is ever remotely close to predicting results. Some of us are actually good and evaluating overall rankings/talent, but we're really not able to find the minute tiny little intricacies of what a team needs. Ballard has that advantage over even the most qualified talent evaluators among us or the media. He may be wrong of course, but he's playing high stakes poker and we''re all playing fantasy level poker with pretend money. He's using live ammo while we use blanks. And he's on the ground in the battle while we are watching it at a safe distance using blanks. I don't always agree with him either. I had other Safeties I was hoping he would pick. But for all of us, myself included, we're just outsiders of a very inside game.
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21 minutes ago, Bluefire4 said:
Don't know why all of the analysts are saying he is good at covering TEs. He shut down Zach Gentry at Michigan who is not good. He would get murdered by any average TE in the NFL.
Bottom line for me is that his ceiling is a backup safety who is great on special teams and I think there were options on the board that could actually replace Geathers in the future.
And I didn't mean to insinuate that the only reason Ballard picked him was for his character, but I do think that was a major part of the decision. I guarantee him being a team captain and hard worker is the first thing out of Ballard's mouth at the press conference.
The only thing I like about the fit is that he is a really good fit in our zone defense and he comes up and tackles well similar to Geathers. He shows no instincts or coverage ability, so unless he improves I'd be scared to have him cover anybody on passing downs.
And you know all this for a fact based on ? Have you scouted his season against TE's? Who is your source otherwise? And is that source more respected than Ballard and his team or even (for what it is worth) Mel Kiper and his team? How about coverage in zone versus man schemes? I defer to Ballard and his team and corroborated by others. Plus, his primary use is unquestionably going to be in the box. Were there better Safeties in the box than him? Which ones? Based on who's evaluation? You don't mention any of that in your criticism.
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Ah.. see I don't even consider Fountain as a Colt. I hope he proves me wrong, but he sure didn't do anything so far. I figured he'd be the first player cut this offseason.