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14 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:
You haven't watched Kuzma much because he is just as good as Randle is. Randle is more physical but he can not shoot. I would rather have Kuzma over Randle.
I can't say that I'm shocked that you actually believe that, especially when you believe this below...
18 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:The Pelicans lost their leverage with the Lakers now. Reason being this summer, Magic can now just offer them a lot less and say if you do not take it you will lose AD and get very little.
THE PELICANS DO NOT NEED THE LAKERS TO MOVE AD... I don't know why you keep swinging and missing on this.
8 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:To follow this up, I already know Randle has a much better FG% but what I mean is, he isn't the 3 point threat that Kuzma is. Most of Randle's baskets are inside and it is due to other teams double teaming AD/worrying about him. If Kuzma played along side AD his game would be really good.
Oh look, "stats" again.. I'm still waiting for you to tell me Brady is a better QB than Manning.
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Just now, 2006Coltsbestever said:
Ainge will not give up Tatum though for 1 year of AD, JMO. Yes PG stayed in OKC but that is rare. AD wants to play in LA.
Sure he would. With the chance to get the 2nd or 3rd best player in the NBA with extra draft capital in 2020 as well, you bet your butt he would gladly give up Tatum and Brown plus a couple 1's.
Just now, oldunclemark said:Blue. Kuzma and Ball start for the Lakers ..so did Zubac until they traded him. It was 4 starters.
Kuzma and Ball ARE NOT starting for NO (hypothetically), so them starting for the Lakers is irrelevant. That automatically drops the value on LA's end. Seriously, just think, why would a team take on bench players and give up one of the best players in the league?
5 minutes ago, oldunclemark said:And the question isnt how much talent Boston has, its how much they'll send to the Pelicans for one season of AD.
Boston isnt going to give up 24-year old Jason Tatum and three No. 1s for one year of Anthony Davis. That's just not happening.
Read above...
If you think Ainge is scared to dump Tatum for the 2nd or 3rd best player in the NBA, when he has Heyward sitting on the bench getting ready for next year, you're being overly naive. Boston has 3 guaranteed first rounders (could be 4) next year alone, and 2 guaranteed (could be 3) in 2020. Jaylen Brown has also been mentioned in the trade rumors as well.
BOTH go to NO and start immediately, as those are the 2 biggest holes NO has which is the 2 and 3 spots. SO, they give up 2 2019 1st's - which still possibly gives Boston 2 first rounders for 2019, and a 1st from 2020 - which still possibly gives Boston 2 first rounders from 2020.
It may not take that much from Boston to land AD, but you're fooling yourself if you don't think Boston has the best hand in all of this and NO doesn't notice it.
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16 minutes ago, oldunclemark said:
That's what I was thinking. The Lakers started bidding against themselves and the offer got ridiculous.
Anthony Davis isnt worth 4 starters and two No.1 picks, Nobody is.
Ingram would be the only one starting of those 4 players offered.
17 minutes ago, oldunclemark said:Boston isnt going to send New Orleans Jason Tatum and multiple No.1 picks for one season of AD. (He's not staying in Boston) and Boston hasn't made ANY offer yet. Ainge is a con man and the Pelicans seem like they dont know what to do. The offer New Orleans finally accepts wont be as good as the offer they turned down this week.
Boston can't make an offer until the off-season (July) due to the Rose-rule. Boston's belief is they can re-up Kyrie and lure AD there and keep him.
To the bolded, everyone thought PG wasn't resigning in OKC either..
Say what you want, but Boston has the most valuable assets period
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3 minutes ago, crazycolt1 said:
They have to get Okafor into the rotation. He has played very good when given the chance.
I think Okafor may be a reason NO could get comfortable with moving on from Davis. Randle has been playing really well too.
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8 minutes ago, crazycolt1 said:
Love is getting ready to come back for the Cavs and NO has said they are going to play AD the rest of the season. This is what is reported in ESPN fantasy basketball sites last night.
With that said I don't think NO is that void of talent. They have the talent to win more balls games. I would look at coaching before trading any players.
I agree. NO does have a pretty talented roster (they could stand to be better at the 2 and 3 spot), but I don't see how they aren't at least .500 or better without pointing to the coaching.
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10 hours ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:
You are underestimating how good Kuzma is
No, and I explained why he's not as good as YOU think he is. Again, you're being simple, and just wanting to use stats as a whole for your argument and not seeing the situation as to how those stats are being accumulated. You and a select few of the Laker fan base have to be the only ones who believe Kuzma is better than Tatum. There isn't a GM in the league who would take Kuzma over Ingram straight up.
10 hours ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:I mean if the Pelicans would rather have Tatum and Brown and 2 1st round picks it really isn't that much different.
There's a huge difference, and again I explained that, Tatum and Brown start day 1. Kuzma is NOT starting over Randle (read that closely and tell me he is still better than Tatum), so right there the value between the trade highly favors Boston. Ingram would start as they don't have anyone to challenge him at SF, but they still have a huge hole next to Holiday - which Brown would fill nicely. Both Brown and Tatum play defense, have deep playoff experience, and have been well coached. Take out the draft picks and this still HIGHLY favors Boston.
Again, Boston has 3 first's in 2019 to the Lakers 1.
10 hours ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:Dell Demps just wanted to be a butt head and not help the Lakers by trading them Davis.
Do you not recognize your own logical fallacy in this statement? Why would he help a team in his conference??????
10 hours ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:Demps is from the Popovich tree and Pop advised the Pelicans to not do the trade because he did not want LA getting another top 5 player. Pop hates the Lakers.
If the Lakers had the value to actually get Davis, Demps pulls the trigger, but again he's not going to weaken his team and make a team in his conference stronger. NO loses on that trade from the Lakers terribly.
10 hours ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:Pelicans may get in trouble for reverse tampering is what I am hearing. People in the league hate the Lakers that much which cracks me up. Lakers are lucky this didn't go through so Demps and Pop did LA a favor. Trading Kuzma would've been a huge mistake like I said.
NO isn't getting into trouble over anything. Lebron started all of this at the start of the season, and NO did what any team would do which was listen.
People in the league are growing tired of the bull'ish antics of Lebron especially now that he's in LA. They didn't do LA a favor, they are going to make LA actually work at trying to get better. They are either going to make LA and Lebron bleed out for the next couple of years, to which Lebron will be gone, or LA gets lucky for a year and they look somewhat competitive.
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54 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:
Also the Lakers making the Playoffs is a start for them and a huge improvement from last year.
They still may not make it WITH Lebron. This would be a huge failure to that Lakers organization even moreso than last year.
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15 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:
I was talking with a friend earlier and we were discussing why people were gushing over Jayson Tatum so much and not Kyle Kuzma. Kuzma has been better so far in his career averaging more more Points, Rebounds, and Assists per game than Tatum. Magic should be thankful that deal didn't go through because trading Kuzma would've been a huge mistake. Also the Lakers making the Playoffs is a start for them and a huge improvement from last year. Then Magic has enough Cap Space this summer to land 2 SuperStars if he goes that route. Dell Demps has no leverage now. Kuzma and Ingram>Tatum and Brown, just look at the stats. Lakers even offered Demps 2 1st round picks and Ball with Kuzma and Ingram and the dude still wouldn't do it
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I mean Brady has better stats and WAY more rings than Manning so he's just better right.... You are being way to simple about this. Tatum and Brown(who doesn't even start) play on a better team and are still producing highly.
Lets just follow your thought process and put Klay Thompson on this Lakers team, and let's leave out that other superstar you mentioned, do you really a believe Kuzma's and Ingram's production stay the same? Not a chance, especially with a volume shooter like Klay, and we haven't even added in that other superstar like you said. Kuzma and Ingram have benefited from playing on a team where THEY are the teams best players, outside of Lebron. Add that second superstar with Klay and Lebron, and Kuzma's and Ingram's productivity plummet further. Ingram could possibly start with NO, but Kuzma isn't sniffing a starting spot with Randle there.
Demps knew LA really had nothing of value, especially not draft picks, and made LA look desperate. Boston has the picks (three 1st round picks alone next year) AND players that could come in an help immediately. Tatum and Brown are starting day 1.
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45 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:
Magic Johnson had a closed door meeting today with the team and told them he was all in with this group. LeBron James also said you guys are my team, I trust you. Stuff I read on some Lakers websites earlier.
-A lot of people were making fun of the Lakers because the Davis deal failed and mocking LeBron for wrecking that teams chemistry. Looks like to me they are fine, not only that they will have the last laugh now when the Pelicans get peanuts for Davis this summer. Dell Demps thought he got over on Magic, actually he didn't. Nobody will offer the Pelicans what LA did. Magic will be laughing this summer when someone like Klay Thompson signs with LA and they still have all their players
. While Dell Demps Pelicans will be in suck land 
. Lakers are only 1.5 games out of that 8th spot. No way LeBron is missing the Playoffs.
Boston has better players and picks than what LA was offering..
Let's not overrate what the Lakers had to offer. Also, the Clippers doing a minor dismantle is what could help the Lakers be a fringe playoff team, not because they are actually good. It won't be much of a consolation to make it into the #8 spot and get swept by Golden State although it would be par for the course for Bron Bron.
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If you want some comedic relief, read the conversation section of last nights game on ESPN. Laker/Lebron fans were getting trolled so bad. It seems there are some Lakers fans who are wanting Lebron gone.
Also, I didn't watch the game, but were fans actually yelling "Lebron is going to trade you" when guys were shooting FT's? I seen in mentioned numerous times that it was being changed amongst fans during the game.
As I've said before, when Lebron is gone the NBA will be a MUCH better product.
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45 minutes ago, dodsworth said:
I could give a F- less about the Pats
and any of their players....
You take all of this way to seriously...
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34 minutes ago, Colts_Fan12 said:
AD is more than likely going to play with Lebron when he us a FA he cant go anywhere tho unless he is traded
If the Knicks have a shot at Zion, I could see NO caving and taking that pick along with the other 1sts Dallas gave the Knicks in the Porzingas trade. Hopefully NO keeps him away from the Lakers and sends him East so they don't have to see him that often.
I still think Klay leaves GS after this season and heads to the Lakers. His dad wants him there pretty bad.
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13 hours ago, oldunclemark said:
NBA radio talkers were saying today that the Knicks are 'certain' to get Kevin Durant and that this move was to clear cap space...
I don't agree but that 's what they were saying..
….and Kristi Porzingas does not make you a super team
I wouldn't be surprised if AD and Kyrie head to NY with Durant as well.
Watching Porzingas play, he virtually has the same skill set as AD, but just doesn't have the experience due to injuries. I think he can be just as good as AD.
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6 minutes ago, JPFolks said:
Tyrell Williams has always been an under utilized asset for the Chargers ridiculously deep WR corps. Travis Benjamin is another example. I think Tyrell is the better receiver of the two because of his measurable's *6'3"!!!!! 40 inch vertical, 4.4 40 etc.. He's averaged app. (I rounded) 60 catches, 800 yards and a strong 16.3 yds per catch average. His roughly 6 TD's per year is one in 10 catches. He only had one truly fully utilized season where he broke 1000 yards, had almost 70 catches and 7 TDs as the #3 option. I think his price will be super low, the risk will be super low but his upside could be enormous. He was only used 3 years really with his only rookie year catch an 80 yard TD, so not a bad first catch. The eye test always told me "this guy is under utilized" but your mileage may vary. He's 26 and I think combined with Luck he could be a breakout stud on a super affordable prove it contract. I might even sign him as a two year
I am looking for non obvious signees we could kick the tires on. DE Preston Smith and WR Tyrell Williams are two of the top on my list.
Your thoughts?
Tyrell has been brought up quite a few times on here the past month. He's one, I'd have to assume, is going to be high on the Colts list of FA targets.
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32 minutes ago, CR91 said:
They said the same about Jacoby
Come on man, no they didn't. Jacoby, at the very least, was going to be an NFL backup. Walker's career path was always going to be different.
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18 minutes ago, CR91 said:
Colts seem to be a fan of phillip Walker. They keep bringing him back
That doesn't mean he's capable of being an NFL backup. He's a PS QB and that's probably all he'll ever be.
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5 hours ago, jskinnz said:
I've seen the bolded said so many times on here and I have no idea why it is accepted as fact. Rookies at all positions have taken time to get their sea legs under them and others in all positions have flourished immediately. Plus there will be football after 2019.
It was a "Polian'ism"... He would always say that it takes WR's take 2-3 years to "fully develop". I think that was his fall back phrase for Reggie Wayne when it took him a couple years to come around...
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9 hours ago, MikeCurtis said:
And..... add 20lbs
You would be surprised how a solid 5-7lbs would change him physically. 20 would be WAAAYYY too much.
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1 hour ago, ColtsBlueFL said:
So apparently FA's aren't nearly as impressed with Jacoby Brissett as many Colts fans are?... Hmmm...
Come on CFL, you know comparing 2017, as a whole, to this year isn't really fair to Brissett. The coaching, and play calling alone, would have given fans a different body of work from Brissett. Add in that OL from week 6 on, and there is another improvement. I think the Colts chances with Brissett winning 10 games would have been lower than with Luck, but I think he could have gotten the team to 8-8. I wish we could have seen just 1 full game with him to see how he would have played with this team and coaching staff this year.
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Just now, Defjamz26 said:
Yes. People talk as if he’s this big alpha male receiver that can’t be stopped, but he’s not. He has no explosive traits and his best ability is winning 50/50 balls because he can’t separate, so he’s only thrown 50/50 balls. If you like big receivers, Metcalf and Harmon are better.
Ok.. "underrated" didn't make sense with what you said about him so I was just making sure what you meant...
I think the "value" in receivers is going to be in that 2-4 range. I really don't trust Harry or Metcalf. I remember when Laquan Treadwell (some similarity physically to Metcalf) came out from Ole Miss and he was supposed to be "NFL ready" too, and he's been a lame.
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Just now, Defjamz26 said:
N’Keal Harry is extremely underrated. He has no explosion what so ever.
Overrated?
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16 minutes ago, Defjamz26 said:
He’s hasn’t looked to hot at Senior Bowl, but I didn’t see him being a 1st rounder before that.
McShay and Brooks have both listed him as a first rounder in their mocks. If Marcus Davenport went in the first last year, Ferguson can this year as well.
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41 minutes ago, SouthernIndianaNDFan said:
Really like that mock tho! Think Ferguson is a gem, and will slip not being from one of the football factories. Would prefer Oruwariye/Baker at CB, but Murphy is a stud.
And yeah, Sweat is increasing his stock by the minute, unfortunately. I hope the Colts move up and get him, I think he's gonna be a Pro Bowl edge rusher at the next level, the kid is an athletic specimen.
Think Marcus Davenport from last year. He didn't really show much at the Shrine game last year and he still went in the first. I think the same thing happens to Ferguson and he goes around the end of the first. He's been killing it this past week.
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2 hours ago, oldunclemark said:
Kawhi Leonard out for Toronto Wednesday night at the Pacers.
No reason given. Maybe just 'rest'
Possibly because the last time the Pacers played them, he didn't play, and they still took the Pacers to the woodshed...
I don't know why, and I'm echo'ing some of what you said after the last time we played them, but Toronto is a team we just don't match up well with at all and just can't beat with any consistency.
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. Lakers are only 1.5 games out of that 8th spot. No way LeBron is missing the Playoffs.
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The Celtics won't have to give up 4 players like the Lakers were offering. There are strong reports that NO wants Tatum. Boston will gladly let him go because Heyward should be 100% healthy next year.
Boston has potentially 7 - SEVEN - first round picks in 2019/2020, losing a couple and Tatum/Brown is hardly skin off their *.
Because you keep failing to realize it was a cruddy deal to begin with.
I guarantee AD won't be in LA next year just like Kawhi isn't in LA this year. These West teams aren't just going to conform to the Lakers nonsense tactics.