Carlos Danger
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Maybe unrealistic at a few spots, but this would be a killer draft.
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I really like it...
I wouldn't pick Edmunds, though. He'd be well off my radar at #6 with Ward and Smith still available. Other than that, I'd love for it to go down like this... Penny would be a great value pick in the early 4th if he lasted that long.
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On 3/28/2018 at 12:26 AM, NewColtsFan said:
So... I believe Buffalo is as far back as we'd consider trading. Not only do they have a ton of draft picks this year, but I believe they project to be a sub-500 team this coming year so their 2019 picks would also be desirable. That makes them a target depending on what they're offering.
I wondered what might our top-12 picks look like? We have to consider the possible players that might be there when pick 12 comes around....
This would be my current top-12. I'm sure you'll have plenty of disagreements, especially from 8-12. But for me, on balance, in what ever order you prefer, these would be the top-12 names... So.....
1. Barkley
2. Nelson
3. Chubb
4. Mayfield
5. Darnold
6. Rosen
7. Allen
8. Edmunds
9. Smith
10. James
11. Ward
12. Fitz
Try not to focus on how I have the QB's ranked. For purposes of this exercise, it really doesn't matter, we aren't interested in them. And any team trading up for them is paying to get a possible franchise QB no matter the rank. It's players 8-12 that are important. Because ONE of THEM would be our pick at 12. You'll likely see players 8-12 different than I do, and that's fine. But one of them will likely be our pick at 12.
To me, if you favor someone else not on my list, that player is a tier lower on my board. I think there is a line after 12. So, I'm not willing to go lower than 12.
If you love someone that I don't have as a top-12, I'd love to know who that is.... this is the time for that free wheeling discussion!
I pretty much agree with your list, except I'd drop Edmunds off the list and add M. Hurst.... Maybe I'd change the order a little, but I think you have all of the players id have... except Hurst.
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I wouldn't pick Edmunds with Smith still available... Edmunds would be a fine pick at #12... assuming Smith is gone, but there are quite a few players I'd rather get at #6, for sure... Ward, Nelson, and Fitzpatrick, to name a few.
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He played MUCH better last season. It was obvious that he had settled and wasn't as lost. He was so awful in 2016 that I found myself being surprised that he didn't get constantly picked on in coverage while he was in this last season. He has always been a solid blitzer, but looked like an actual football player at times throughout the year.
Still not a quality starter, but it could happen for him. Some raw players take off after year 3 or 4. I'm not holding my breath for Green to reach his athletic potential, but I do feel (just from watching the games) that PFF's assessment of his improvement is more or less accurate.
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Love the optimism, though I disgree with the overall conclusion.
I do agree that the AFC South, while vastly improved, is not as good as many are making it out to be.
Last season was best case scenario for any team with Blake Bortles at QB...
Tennessee is a decent team, but they have holes and an injury prone (and overrated) QB.
Watson is one of the most overrated players in football right now, imo. He tore it up in limited action last season, but his accuracy is not great. Teams will be more able to defend him after studying some tape. Houston (like Jax) has a great defense, but some of their key players have either left or are on the decline...
I don't think Indy is as good as any of those teams, despite their flaws, though. We have the best QB, which will always keep us in contention for the division title, but I think it's all a wash at this point... I wouldn't be surprised by any of the four winning the division next season... Maybe a little if it's the Colts, but I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility with Luck coming back and improvements on the coaching and conditioning staff.
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My issue with Hubbard is that he doesn't look explosive on tape... He looks pretty refined as far as hand usage and leverage, but his tape doesn't seem to reflect his agility scores at the combine (yet). I still like him and wouldnt hesitate to pull the trigger with that mid second we have (if he lasted that long).
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15 minutes ago, Shive said:
Harold Landry - Undersized and maybe only a situational passer rusher initially, but I think will end up a very solid rusher.
Sam Hubbard - Just not athletic enough. I think he'll be decent, but he doesn't have the explosive qualities top-flight pass rushers often need.
Arden Key - A lot of question marks, but if he can keep the foot on the gas, he could be a really good pass rusher.
Chad Thomas - Low college production and needs a lot of technical refinement. Could be a really good pass rusher if he learns better hand usage, more pass rush moves, and gets better instincts.
Ogbonnia Okoronkwo - Doesn't have the size or length to play 4-3 DE well. May be able to play as a situational pass rusher, but I don't see him as a starter.
Hercules Mata'afa - Lacks height, length and athleticism to be an effective 4-3 DE and too small to kick in to 3-tech.
Adeniyi Olasunkanmi - Productive college career, but was also against lower level of competition. He's also a bit undersized for 4-3 DE, but uses leverage well and can bend. I could see him at least being a situational pass rusher.
Jeff Holland - Not incredibly athletic, but wins by being a smart pass rusher and taking good angles. I could see him as a rotational guy, but not a premier pass rusher.
Marcus Davenport - Tons of upside, but a floor in the basement. He looked good against very low level of competition and didn't look special against the higher level at the Senior Bowl. I think he'll take a few years to develop and I wouldn't spend the 1st round pick (on a complete project player) that he's projected to go for.
Josh Sweat - Tested extremely well, but that athleticism doesn't often show up on film. He needs needs a lot of technical refinement and to work on his intitial burst, because his is atrocious. With a lot of work, he could develop into a very sound pass rusher.
Lorenzo Carter - Highly recruited out of HS, but never lived up to the hype. Has the ideal size and length, but not the technical skills. He could develop well to finally realize his potential (would be a VERY good pass rusher) or be a complete bust.
Javon Rolland Jones - Played against lower level of competition, but is far and away one of the most polished pass rushers in this draft. He lacks plus athleticism, but wins with technique and a good pass rush plan. I really like this guy as a situational pass rusher.
Rasheem Green - Needed another year at USC. He's really raw from a technical standpoint and lacks the strength to hold up in the run game. Could develop into a solid DE, with the ability to kick inside to 3-tech.
Breeland Speaks - I see him more of as 3-4 DE, not a 4-3 DE.
Tyquan Lewis - Great burst off the line, but not much after that. Possesses some good pass rush traits, but needs to learn more pass rush moves and how to string them together. Seen mostly as a situational pass rusher, as he struggles against the run.
Kylie Fitts - Flashed some really great pass rush traits, but also lacks the strength to anchor against the run. Has some injury concerns as well. Definitely a later round guy I would take a flier on as at least a situational pass rusher.
Kemoko Turay - A lot of upside, but needs to pack some weight onto his frame. He also needs to develop some go-to pass rush moves and counters, because he doesn't really have any right now. I'm also concerned about his tight hips and lack of bend.
Kentavious Street - STRONG AS H*LL and solid athleticism. He does lack the length needed to play off the edge and may be better packing on a bit more weight and kicking inside. Even at his size now, if he can consistently use leverage and his crazy strength, I don't see many G's blocking him one-on-one. I'd LOVE him as a late round guy to develop as a mean 3-tech.
Duke Ejiofor - Optimal size and strength. He also possesses ideal pass rusher skills, but is just not athletic. He's the kind of guy that will give you exactly what you expect, but won't wow you coming off the edge. I could see him at a rotational DE initially.
Ade Aruna - A big project player. He has the physical traits, just not the technical skill, at all. Has only played football since his senior year of HS, so he's definitely behind others because of that. He's a late round guy you could stash on the practice squad to develop over the next few years.
All of that said, I'm not entirely impressed with this year's EDGE prospects outside of Chubb and Landry. A lot of them physically fit as 3-4 OLBs, but aren't athletic enough. The guys that could play 4-3 DE are either not athletic or very raw. There's a few guys that interest me later, but I'm really hoping we can snag Chubb at 6..
Good post... I mostly agree with your assessments here.
I will say, with regard to Hercules Mata'afa, that he was criminally misused at Washington State... It seemed like he had real pass rush juice when given the opportunity to come off the edge (at least that I saw), but he simply wasn't used that way very often...
He is an interesting option if he slips due to his "tweener" status.
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There are only a couple teams that could would qualify for me to do that... The Jets come to mind.
If the team you trade with had better be bad or you might end up only moving a few spots... Plus, you cant predict what players you might get a whole year in advance..
I'd trade that lower 2nd rounder for just about any team's 2019 1st, though... It makes sense in a 3 year rebuild, but not necessarily for a contender, imo.
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Pass on Barkley... Like I've said in other threads, he's overvalued by draft media guys... He's not a "perfect" prospect like people have been saying.
He does have protypical size and burst, but he doesn't run with enough strength. He bounces everything outside (like Mack) and wastes all of that power by not finishing runs... He was shut down in multiple games this season. He's not worth a top 10 pick, even in this draft.
I'm not saying he isn't a 1st round talent or that he won't be a good NFL running back... Just that he's not "the best player in this draft" or any type of "generational" talent. He's not as good as Zeke or Gurley were coming out. He's only marginally better (as a prospect) than Guice, Michel, Jones, or Chubb, to name a few.
Of course, that's just my opinion... This draft season seems like it has been so long and I've seen so much of the top 5 guys that all I can see are their flaws now... Barkley stands out to me as the most overrated prospect in the entire class, even more than Davenport and Edmunds.
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Hard to pass on D. Guice if he were there, but I chose Wynn... Evans and McGlinchy are other guys from this group that would be tremendous value picks for Indy.
C. Williams could make a great OG for us, as well with some position flex, to boot... I don't think he's going to be drafted to be anybody's LT...
The beauty of the situation as it stands is that we have back to back picks early in the 2nd... If there is a run on QBs and pass rushers, we can get 2 guys who should've been picked higher... Hurst is a 1st rounder all day, imo, but we could get a major steal if teams are squeamish about his medicals and let him drop to our picks in the 2nd.
There are a ton of combinations of I'd love to see with those two picks... I think the top half of the 2nd round is one of the real sweet spots this year... While there aren't a lot of "blue chip" guys for the top of the 1st round, there's tons of borderline 1st round talent that should spill down to the middle of the 2nd much of it at positions of dire need for the Colts.
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It's hard to quantify... I chose 4 because I'd expect our 1st and 2nd round picks to all start by year two or they weren't successful picks...
The reason it is difficult is that if any of them become elite or pro bowl level, it becomes easier to dismiss an underachieving pick... Especially if an elite guy is a 2nd or 3rd round pick...
In general, though, I'd say that we have to get 4 starters (at least) to call this a successful draft... As it stands, we will be picking 4 players in the first two rounds and it stands to reason that ALL of these guys should develop into starting caliber NFL players. Anything less is a bad pick... Really, I'd like to see our 3rd and 4th round picks be able to start ( by year 2, depending on their positions) considering how many spots should be up for grabs.
I won't say that the draft wasn't a success over a fourth round pick, but the level of competition at some positions will be pitiful this year at TC. Imagine how easy it will be for linebackers to make the 53... It's not far fetched to imagine a late round pick or an UDFA earning one of those starting spots.
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Love the trade... If there is a bidding war for the pick (say the Giants, Browns [at 4], and Denver all pass on QBs) I don't see it as far-fetched, at all... In the end, we might not have to give up that 104th pick... Maybe the 140th would do it.
I'm with some others that I think there will be a better option at 12 than Landry (mostly a scheme fit, concern). I think either Ward, James, Fitzpatrick, Vea, or Smith will be there and I'd rather have one of them...
I doubt that James makes it to #22... if he does, that would be one heckuva pick, though. Probably the same with Bryant in the 2nd. I'd love it if it happened...
I generally like the rest of the draft, but, again, what really excites me about this scenario is the extra picks from the trade haul...
If Ballard is as good at evaluating talent as many have said, written, and tweeted, Indy could be looking at 8 year one starters/upgrades with multiple late round picks to bolster depth... Nothing to shake a stick at, to be sure.
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I only say Allen's a good fit for the Giants because he could sit for a year (or two) and let his fundamentals and situational awareness develop to the the level his arm talent is currently.
The other reason is OBJ... He will turn an inaccurate throw into a big play as well as anyone.
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Giants would be a good fit for Allen, imo... I don't think any of the QBs are as good as advertised except Rosen... The rest are all pretty developmental.
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57 minutes ago, waka waka said:
would anyone flip out if Derwin James is taken at 6? we'd have the safety in place for the future i like Derwin more than Minkah.
I wouldn't at all. James is going to be a star. We have injury concerns at both starting safety spots...
I suppose it depends on Ballard's board... I would trust his judgement more than my own in these matters.
If it were up to me, We'd trade down (even to 12) if Chubb and Nelson are gone (Barkley doesn't factor in either way, imo). I see it as two blue chip guys and then a log jam of very good prospects... R. Smith, D.James, M.Fitzpatrick, V.Vea, D.Ward are all guys that I'd be fine with at #6, but one will be available at #12, plus we'd definitely get another 1st and 2nd in the ensuing bidding war if we chose Buffalo...
Example:
1. Ward/Vea
1. McGlinchy/Vanderesch
2. C. Williams/Wynn
2. Jefferson/Hurst
2. N. Chubb/Sutton
2. Sweat/Penny
3. E.St.Brown
To me, that is best case scenario aside from picking Chubb...
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1.Chubb
2.Nelson
3.Fitzpatrick
4.James
5.Ward
6.Smith
7.Vea
8.Hurst
9.Barkley
10.Edmunds
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I like the idea of adding him. Sounds like it could be a bargain deal...
...if the biggest knock on him is that he is socially conscious, then sign me up.
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If the Giants are only interested in Darnold... It stands to reason, in my view, at least, that they are likely to trade down if he gets picked by the Browns...
Neither team will take Barkley, imo... He isn't elite enough to overcome the positional value argument... He isn't so much better than the other guys coming out that he warrants such a high pick, especially in this QB heavy year where the top picks are so tradeable...
I don't buy that NY only wants Darnold, but, if the report is true, I expect them to trade... Chubb won't fit their new system and Nelson is a guard in a strong draft for guards... Trading or drafting a QB are the only ways I see to maximize the value of that #2 pick... just as Chubb or trading were our only real options at #3, imo.
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Fitzpatrick, Smith, or Ward... Not interested in Edmunds over any of those 3...
Chances are that one of these guys would be available in a trade down to 12, along with VV and Hurst... Trading down makes sense if no Chubb or Nelson...
I'd still trade if Barkley is there... Rather have all of those players than him.. except Edmunds...
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Giants are picking a QB... Its the only way they could turn down a huge trade offer from the NYJ, imo... unless they think they can get significantly more for the pick on draft day... Either way, to me, it's very likely to be a QB taken with that 2nd pick... way more likely than Chubb or even Barkley.
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5a (although all could happen)
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Draft goes QB, QB, QB, QB, Nelson, Chubb...
Barkely falls.
edit: I had a typo that I fixed... actually wanted first 4 picks to be QBs... I was also 50/50 on whether the Broncos take Nelson or Mayfield... They might actually trade up 1 spot to get ahead of the Bills, who will also try to trade into 4... If they do, Cleveland probably doesn't take Nelson, as their interior OL is solid, but you have to draw a line somewhere, so my actual prediction is that Cleveland trades #4 to Buffalo, who take a QB and leave Denver without an option except to take the best non QB in the draft: Q. Nelson at 5.
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Probably have a better chance of Jimmy V coming to "save the franchise."
I feel like this thread is the Colts forum version of "you'll never guess what your favorite childhood stars look like today"
Why do I always click?
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Barkely is no Edge... He's not Gurley or Zeke, either. He's probably going to be good in the NFL, but he has issues as a prospect.
He can break away and catch passes extremely well for a person his size. However, he tends to bounce everything outside and generally play smaller than his frame would indicate he could. I dont think it's a strength issue, just a mentality thing, but he needs to get better between the Tackles if he is going to be a workhorse back in the NFL...
I doubt he sets the world on fire in his first year. He is definitely not worth the Colts #6 pick in a draft where Chubb, Nelson or Fitzpatrick would be available, imo.
For me, it isn't even positional value. I'd be fine with Nelson at #6 (or #3, for that matter). I just don't think Barkely is as good as his hype would indicate and that most NFL GMs will be able to see that after watching his games... He had quite a few bad/mediocre games in 2017... how is he a "perfect" prospect? I just don't see it... I see a 1st round talent, but not a top 5 guy in most drafts, even in this relatively weak class. Jmo, of course.
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Good topic and analysis...
I will say that I think that there are some really intriguing size/weight profiles among the lesser known WRs on the roster... There could be a viable or even a good player in there somewhere...
I like Rogers and Grant as reliable options for Luck, but both are probably more #3 type guys... If one of those tall guys on futures contracts can ball, I don't really hate the group, though... At least not as bad as some other positions (like LB).