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Registered friend. I’ll be looking for it. @stitches mentioned me in the post is how I heard about the site to enter.

Meh. The Colts probably don't have any "important" games next season.

I say the more the merrier plus you get to watch a game in thw morning and I'm a big morning person. It would be cool to see international talent too. I liked following the Japanwse and Koream MLB players when they started emerging and the euros in BBall. They brought a new and different style that was interesting to me. There are more people world wide that have the physical tools to play football than there are in the US and it would be an interesting infusion. Of talent. Thw dude didnt work out but the colts tried an Australian rugby star a few years ago. Bigger talent pool equals better game IMO.

I won't be coming to Germany, but let me know when they open up and I'll try to get on there and grab some. So you are saying they sell to Americans over here and then the Germans over there I guess? Separately? If you can find out the time when they go on sale over here let me know.

Both. But look at what our actual Germans on here are saying. It's popular. Probably about like soccer here which is increasing in popularity. Lots of bid soccer fans in the US. We go to the Nashville SC park a lot. 35 to 40 grand for every match and very loud and plenty knowledgable. The world has evolved since this think called the Internets was invented.

I'd try to help you out buddy if it's possible. If you get some info PM me and I'll see if I can help. I CALL ON ALL STATESIDE FANS HERE TO ENTER THE LOTTERY OR WHATEVER WILL HAPPEN AND TRY TO HOOK OUR EUROPEAN FRIENDS UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The top Japanese players play here. Many if not most of the best players are not American anymore though.

Dude football is very popular in Germany.

I don't know what the hierarchy of roles from him has been, but he's been following around Adolfo-Mensah for the last 3 years. I don't think that necessarily indicative of him not being able to keep a job.

Totally agree with just about everything here. Interesting thing. In the last 20 years there have been 2 "mobile QBs" or so (the def of mobile is subjective) to win the Big Bowl. Wilson in 2013 and Mahomes in 2019. Mahomes was not a mobile QB last playoffs with the injuries. Both of these guys are pass first guys with few if any designed runs. There have been 2 what I would call running QBs play in the Big Bowl in last 8 years. Newton and Hurts.

No. Of course not. You'd want the keep him for 16 or 18. But I think many teams would take a high level of production for 6-8 knowing that the guy would be likely to break down at the end of it. The number one pick in the draft is a tiny little guy by NFL standards who weighs 206 with a couple gallons of water in him. Attitudes are shifting about the QB position is the bulk of the point I'm making. I think the Jackson contract is borderline insanity, and I'd be absolutely shocked if that works out for BALT very well.

Supe I'm not discussing what I would want or what I have wanted in the past. I mean right now I'd take Mahomes, Burrow, Herbert, and then Hurts I guess. I don't love that running QB at all. Kinda like Snoop Dog and garden tools. Jackson would be way down on my list. I don't believe in that LJ kinda thing. What I am saying is that I don't think teams are looking at the 10 year window necessarily. I think QB might, not will now but might, start to become a position that teams are willing to turn over if the running thing continues to progress. It might be judged to be prudent to use up guys at QB like is don't at other positions. and then get a new guy.

but was the draft pick and the six years worth it? I think so really. SB appearances are rare. look at this way, would you take an SB appearance from AR in a couple years and several competitive knowing AR would be ineffective at the end of it? I would. It’s been pretty dry in recent history for Colts fans. In six years my 8th grader will be in his 2nd year of undergrad and my sophomore should be in med school if things continue the way they’re going. That’s quite a while. 6 years ago the 8th grader had no front teeth and the soph was not yet pubescent. It’s a pretty significant amount of time in a human lifespan.

All the evidence forever has been pocket passers. I just don’t think Jackson and possibly Hurts though it’s early for him would be viable pocket passers without the benefits of their running threats. Yeah man I’m not sold on the strategy either personally, it just looks like some teams are trying it. So I’m not saying it will work, I’m just saying it appears that some teams are trying it. Running the ball in the NFL is probably one of the worst possible jobs an American can have for his body and his brain. It is counter to everything we’ve seen in the past, Newton seems like pretty good evidence against doing it, but he had a few productive years and made the big bowl playing that way. Time will tell Supe. Time will tell.

I've tended this type of thinking too. But Boy Baltimore and Philly just bet on it big time with the money they gave to these guys. I don't think either one of these guys would be very successful without the running game they bring to the table. Franky, Josh Allen probably fits that bill too. Will any of these guys be viable dropback guys when and if they lose the mobility? I don't think you sign either Jackson or Hurts if you don't count on their running game. Running less, maybe, but it remains to be seen. I definitely think the value of accuracy is valued less. I don't see Jackson as an NFL QB without the wheels. Do you? Fields doesn't go that high and neither does AR. I was without a doubt right there with you until probably this year. Hurts takes many if not most of their most important runs and they run a lot. Jackson, he's certainly not making a living between the tackles and man is he ever making a living. Fields. and more. I think we might see a little more turnover man. It is not as time consuming to learn how to run RPO and zone read stuff. More guys are likely going to be able to do this than can drop deep, scan full field, read, and get the ball out. Teams might be willing to pay these running guys to play for 6-8 years an be used up like many of the other positions. 32 or so was usually the downside of the career. I think guys like Brees, Manning, and Brady have kind of jaded us into seeing top play in mid to late 30s. 8 years of top play from a running type of QB would be just fine with me. I

I guess I just think the poster meant can he do it consistently . I'm 51 but still have a pretty good arm after about 30 warm ups and up until last year I would throw to my son who played HS football. So I fit that first part. I can hit a WR in stride doing slants/ins/outs. Unless your arm is shot or you could never throw a FB well I'd bet you can too. At an NFL level of consistency? of course not. So I don't think it's that lawyerly type of breakdown of the exact wording that's important here. If you do, touche'. Congrats counselor.

1. Accurate enough then. 2. Well matters as much then. Point of the post is can he and others be successful with less accurate arms as a featured runner ala Jalen Hurts and Philly? Hurts is the featured runner in that attack. The question is out there as to whether the traditional notion of accuracy is going to be as important going forward when the QBs running is such a threat. ie. guys are going to get open easier as more emphasis defensively is going to be put on the QB out of the backfield.

Agreed about Mahomes. I think it was the non NFL type of O as much as anything else that had GMs passing on him.

Yeah but if you watch much of his film, of which I watched a fair amount, he's startlingly inaccurate, even not when under pressure, for a top QB pick. If someone hasn't seen that then they haven't watched much film or has some weird bias. Of course some of his passes are accurate. Duh. No one would say that he never hits the target. He's very inconsistent with the accuracy and no one except apparently you and a couple other guys on this board are saying anything to the contrary. There are two questions about this then. 1. Can he become more accurate? No one has any way of knowing this until it happens one way or the other. 2. But further, does it matter with a guy with his athleticism? This is a very interesting question. But he's certainly unprecedented as a high draft pick having this bad of accuracy issues. He also had no real success in CFB. The talent level is low for FL apparently, but still it's unique that an under 500 CFB QB with stark accuracy issues was a top 4 pick. People cite Vick. Vick was plenty accurate compared to his peers for the way the game was played back then. He actually led the nation in passing efficiency his 1st year and led VT to the title game with an undefeated record. That's quite a bit different than AR. I'm not against the pick. I would have tepidly preferred Levis but I am not disappointed with the pick. Most QBs bust. Even top picks so it's likely that AR busts and it's likely that Young, Stroud, and Levis all bust too. I don't think all of them will, but if you take any of the 4 individual the smart bet most of the time is that the player is not going to end up being great. AR is intriguing and it will be an interesting watch to see how he develops. I wouldn't be surprised either way if he flops completely as a viable NFL franchise QB, or becomes a star in this league. We've never seen anything like it.

Yeah, me I used to be a traditionalist. I liked 3 yds and a cloud of dust. I didn't like the downfield passing game and then started enjoying it with manning. Didn't like running QBs because none ever won a title. Pocket passers were the ones that always wion .Now I just want to win. Get the ball across the line by any means necessary. Hurts was a fairly good passer in CFB, and he looks great. I don't consider Mahomes in the new mold. He's a pocket passer who can move and use arm angles, but there have been guys like that before, not as good but similar. If AR can score the football with primarily a running attack, the whole league will jump on the bandwagon. It will be interesting to see.

That 1st paragraph. Oof. The game has changed though. But oof.

Got it. I actually didn’t hear it either. I read it. I don’t watch much Tv FB news. Can’t deal with the constant hype and drama lol. Almost all my news is what’s posted here. there is a difference if he’s joking and knows he has the issue. I think it’s important that guys know there flaws.

One thing concerned me I heard him say predraft was the the guys just need to catch it or something to that effect. T hat is definitely not true. Lots of routes need a catchable placement . He will be coached that and at least seems humble enough to learn that. he seems to want to let it rip rather than laying it in there short. But that’s probably cause he’s not good at it and it’s frustrating.

It’s been conventional wisdom. Doesn’t make it true. Lots of conventional FB is proving wrong. If there is a technique flaw though it would seem to be correctable. Lots of posters here are equating accuracy and completion %. They aren’t equal. Drops are obvious, ints and pass break ups can be accurate too. Ie. The throw goes where it was intended but it shouldn’t have been throw there. You could theoretically complete 20 of 20 short passes and not one would catch the receiver in stride and they would all 20 be inaccurate throws.

To me he looks really uncomfortable when not throwing the fastball. He seems to guide the ball. My Dad would say that to me pitching in the back yard. Throw it don’t guide it. he doesn’t see to have that Mahomes/Rodgers or Shortstop type of ability to change arm angles and hips, legs, feet at different angles and be accurate short. It seems as if he’s almost afraid of letting it go short like he doesn’t trust it.