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9 minutes ago, bananabucket said:
Now this one would make some sense. Have to think the Bears would match, though with signing Robinson/Gabriel who knows.
Possibly. If they don’t match then they’ll get no compensation from us though.
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BallardBall. Fits the mold.
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More BallardBall.
This signing fits his motto.
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I thought we would sign him.
I was thinking 3 or 4 years for around 15 to 16 million. I was close.
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11 hours ago, azcolt said:
Could someone translate “draft power points” to something more concrete? For example, how many Starbucks Grande Fraps could you buy with 326 draft power points?
Each pick has a value. The Draft Power is the combined value of each pick per team.
326 Draft Value is equivalent to the 57th or 58th pick in the draft (second rounder).
https://footballdungeon.com/news/2018-nfl-draft-order/
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32 minutes ago, B~Town said:
Did I hear that right he assumes on 2nd rd pick next year will be in the top 50 ?
He said 4 picks in the top 50 this year. I don’t think he was referring to next years picks being in the top 50.
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19 minutes ago, jimmy g said:
Don't we need BOTH a power guard AND a,Right Tackle?
Typically a west coast offense will utilize a zone based offensive line scheme.
I am not going to say Will Hernandez can’t play in a zone scheme, but I think he would be better served in a power scheme.
I think Nelson could play any OL position in any scheme.
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22 minutes ago, jimmy g said:
I'll ask a dumb question (I'm no draft geek!)
If Nelson is there, but there's a good chance to trade that pick into McGlinchey AND Hernandez- which is better?
I will give you my opinion.
Mike McGlinchey is best suited at RT. He could play LT, but I think his skill set translates to a RT.
I see Will Hernandez as a power guard.
Quenton Nelson is one of the best interior lineman I have ever scouted. I think that in a pinch he could even play tackle. He is best suited at guard. The combination of power and explosiveness is unlike anything I have ever seen.
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6 minutes ago, Hoose said:
BlueShoe, I think you just made a pretty darn good argument for drafting Nelson, especially now that they have the 6th pick. Its no longer a reach, if it ever was. I've done some research on other site's ratings for the top players in the draft, and Nelson consistently lands top 5 or better. In some cases, he is the top rated talent. With the desperate need to protect Luck with a better O-line, I think this guy is a no brainer. If the Colts trade back with the Bills because the offer is just too enticing, I still think they will prioritize Hernandez if he's as high up their board as I think he should be. But I'd be just fine standing pat and getting a player with such great talent in a huge position of need.
Yeah. Nelson has been my favorite for quite some time now. I hope we can walk out of this draft with him.
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3 minutes ago, crestmount said:
If we were to trade down again with either Miami or Buffalo (2 QB needy teams) what could we expect to get?
Ballard essentially said he would want more than the normal rate.
Here are the commonly used Trade Values.
https://footballdungeon.com/news/2018-nfl-draft-order/
I think Buffalo would at least have to give us both of their first round picks.
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8 minutes ago, NewColtsFan said:
I want to be clear about something....
I'm not saying Ridley can't be good... very good, or even all-pro.
I'm just not comfortable with comparisons to Hall of Fame players as their ceiling. Style of play, sure. But not as a pure ceiling comparison. I'm just way too conservative that way.
Do you know where Marvin Harrison was drafted? How many receivers do you think went in front of him?
At one time, Marvin wasn’t even Marvin yet. At the time, he was my number 1 receiver in the draft. I was excited when we called his name.
I let my eyes tell me what they see. I use some measureables to confirm or deny. Production also matters, but that varies per system and what was asked of the player. I have no fear of comparing anyone to anybody. Why would I? Because some people might get upset if I do? LOL. That’s about them. Not me.
We all see things differently.
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5 minutes ago, OLD FAN MAN said:
looks like ballard is writing off 2018, hard to find day one starters out of the top 3, most draft picks take a few years to start, imo he is building for 2019 and 2020, the lack of free agents signed makes it look more like he is looking a few years down the road. he has a plan if we are patient, at 74 years of age i may not have time to see another colts winning season
It might take us some time, but it could also happen quickly.
A healthy Luck puts us back in contention. As long as we can protect him and run the ball a little then we will be in ball games.
Look at what New Orleans did last year with those great picks.
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3 minutes ago, NewColtsFan said:
I like ceilings and floors too....
But I wouldn't put Ridley in the same sentece with Harrison, except to say there's no comparison.
I'm afraid we see this one completely different.
It won’t be the last time we see things differently.
What fun would it be if we all thought the same way?
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1 minute ago, NewColtsFan said:
I'm conservative on comparisons....
I scoffed when JShipp started comparing Barkley to Bo Jackson and Barry Sanders.
And I don't buy the Ridley has a ceiling of Marvin Harrison talk either. If you want to say they have similar styles or their built the same way, that's one thing.
But to say Ridley has the ceiling of Marvin Harrison is quite another. I'm just never comfortable with that....
To me, Barkley’s ceiling is Edgerrin James. Had it not been for Edgerrin’s injury, he might have been the best of this century.
I look at ceilings and floors. Ridley’s ceiling is Marvin Harrison.
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3 minutes ago, 1959Colts said:
Don't be surprised if Ballard picks Denzel Ward at 6
Bingo. And that is the point of this thread.
Ward’s size concerns me, but his athletic ability is just off the charts. DJ said that coaches from Ohio State call him the most gifted athlete they’ve ever coached. That’s high praise.
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6 minutes ago, nburgmei said:
NFL.com's draft profile has it as his comp! I don't think I've seen a more exaggerated comp. Barkley comped to Barry isn't even as galling.
Lance Zierlein must be completely off his rocker, right? I must be off my rocker too, right?
Who would have thunk it..... A respected media draft scout and an avid Colts fan / long time NFL draft enthusiast (me) both off our rockers, because you disagree with us.
Truth is, anyone can be right or wrong here. We never know exactly how these things turn out until they do.
Truth also is, there is a reason we are both comparing Ridley to Marvin Harrison. We are not saying it will happen, but the ceiling certainly exists. It’s a long way to climb, but the talent is there for it to possibly happen.
I would say that combined, Lance and I have about 70 years or so of draft experience. Take it for what it’s worth.
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3 minutes ago, NewColtsFan said:
I made no mention of Alabama or stats or anything else. Not a word. Just that he's the best of a bad class...
And did you say Marvin Harrison?
Hall of Famer, Marvin Harrison? That guy? I know if no one else who thinks that, or thinks he could be half as good.
Goodness... I don't know where you came up with that one?
The articles you’re reading are based on other people’s ideas. How did they get those ideas? One way would be to downplay Ridley based on his stats. It’s a glaring flaw people make when scouting Alabama pass catchers. And it’s why Ridley is getting downplayed. Happens every year.
Anyone who actually watches Ridley play can see the talent.
Did you read where I said in order to reach Marvin, it’s a long way up there? Or did you just overlook that?
Keep in mind, I saw every NFL play that Marvin Harrison ever had, including the preseason games. And I watched every play live.
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3 minutes ago, nburgmei said:
I agree that it's possible, but it's very unlikely. Ridley isn't near the prospect that Corey Davis or Mike Williams was. Ross got over drafted because of that record breaking speed and...Bengals. There is barely a 1st round WR in this draft. I would be exceptionally disappointed if we went WR.
I would take Ridley over Davis, Williams, and Ross. I don’t think it’s even close. They would all be a second to him in last years draft or this years draft.
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1 minute ago, NewColtsFan said:
I also had Ridley as possible for either Chicago or SF... but all the reviews say he's the best WR of a very disappointing and lack-luster draft.
You're right, it doesn't mean some team won't reach and take him in the top 10. But I'm confident it won't be Ballard... he's not the type to do that...
I am not writing Ridley off. His ceiling is Marvin Harrison. He has that kind of ability. It’s a long way up there though.
Never fall into the trap of using Alabama pass catchers stats to determine their draft value. It would be a mistake.
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5 minutes ago, Narcosys said:
But didn't they do just that by trading back from 3 to 6?
Because the opportunity was there and the Colts must feel that no matter how the draft plays out, they will get a player that have highly ranked at No. 6 overall.
Teams don't always (probably rarely) move to the exact spot they have a player ranked. Sometimes the opportunity to do so just isn’t there and the risk of losing the player is too high.
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1 minute ago, NewColtsFan said:
I don't see Ridley as a top 10 player. Any team that might take him there I think is reaching.
I've read one description of Ridley as an elite WR2. Seriously. I think he lasts to the teens....
It’s possible. I had him going to Chicago in my first 2 mocks and then dropped him to Baltimore in my last mock
Most people didn’t think receivers would be taken high last year either, and they were surprised when it happened.
Ridley is this years best WR. That said, there are several receivers in this draft that I like. I don’t think we will take Ridley at No 6 overall, but he is in the conversation now, whereas he was not at No. 3 overall.
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1 minute ago, Stephen said:
might even draft a wr at 6
You you might be joking, but Ridley is on the table now. He likey wasn’t at No. 3 overall.
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2 minutes ago, NewColtsFan said:
If Ballard has Vea ranked at 6 then he'll take him at 6. But if he has Vea at 10 then I don't see him taking Vea at 6.
i don't see Ballard reaching. Other than perhaps Belichick, Ballard is demonstrating incredible discipline. He hates signing bad contracts.
So so I don't see him reaching for any player....
We don’t know where Ballard has the players ranked. That’s really the point I am making in this thread. As others have said in this thread, it could be Ward, James, or anyone.
Moving back opened the door for this pick to be several different players.
We are not in a confined window (of players perceived to be taken in the top 3) that we once were with the 3rd overall pick.
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