John Hammonds

I'm keeping track on my own excel sheet

I'll wait to make my pick after we get the Eagles pick sorted out

who was the 12th pick?

I agree. If Levis fell to the Raiders, they wouldn't be able to get the card up to the front fast enough.

So 7 and 10 are still in holding pattern.

You giving the Raiders the chance to pick Levis?

did pick 7 get lost in the waiting list?

who picked 7th?

Now playing "Once in a Lifetime" by The Talking Heads

Skoronski is from Northwestern. Local boy.

In the meantime, I have my "My Mix" of songs playing on YouTube. Now playing "End of the Line" by the Traveling Wilburys.

I made my plans picking for the Packers based on picking fifteenth, not eighth. I hope the owners that are on hold jump in soon.

was there a trade? No, it was in lower case. NVM

I am on. Although I won't be paying that much attention until around 7:30. I doubt we will have gotten to my picks by then.

Here are the top 100 players according to the 3/29 list from DraftTek 1 - Will Anderson, EDGE, Alabama 2 - CJ Stroud, QB, Ohio State 3 - Bryce Young, QB, Alabama 4 - Bijan Robinson, RB, Texas 5 - Tyree Wilson, EDGE, Texas Tech 6 - Anthony Richardson, QB, Florida 7 - Paris Johnson Jr, OT, Ohio St 8 - Peter Skoronski, OT, Northwestern 9 - Christian Gonzalez, CB, Oregon 10 - Joey Porter, CB, Penn St 11 - Jalen Carter, DL3T, Georgia 12 - Lukas Van Ness, DL5T, Iowa 13 - Devon Witherspoon, CB, Illinois 14 - Bryan Bresee, DL3T, Clemson 15 - Quentin Johnson, WR, TCU 16 - Will Levis, QB, Kentucky 17 - Nolan Smith, EDGE, Georgia 18 - Jaxon Smith-Njigba, WR, Ohio St 19 - O'Cyrus Torrence, OG, Florida 20 - Michael Mayer, TE, Notre Dame 21 - Broderick Jones, OT, Georgia 22 - Myles Murphy, EDGE, Clemson 23 - Brian Branch, S, Alabama 24 - Deonte Banks, CB, Maryland 25 - Jordan Addison, WR, USC 26 - Zay Flowers, WR, Boston College 27 - Will McDonald IV, EDGE Iowa St 28 - Anton Harrison, OT, Oklahoma 29 - Cam Smith, CB, South Carolina 30 - Darnell Wright, OT, Tennessee 31 - Antonio Johnson, S, Texas A&M 32 - Trent Simpson, OLB, Clemson 33 - Calijah Kancey, DL5T, Pitt 34 - Dalton Kincaid, TE, Utah 35 - Jahmyr Gibbs, RB, Alabama 36 - John Michael Schmitz, OC, Minnesota 37 - Mazi Smith, DL1T, Michigan 38 - Drew Sanders, ILB, Arkansas 39 - Isaiah Foskey, EDGE, Notre Dame 40 - Hendon Hooker, QB, Tennessee 41 - Darnell Washington, TE, Georgia 42 - Josh Downs, WR, North Carolina 43 - Emmanuel Forbes II, CB, Mississippi St 44 - Felix Anudike-Uzomah, EDGE, Kansas St 45 - Keion White, DL5T, Georgia Tech 46 - Zach Harrison, EDGE, Ohio St 47 - Derick Hall, EDGE, Auburn 48 - Aditomewa Adebawore, DL5T, Northwestern 49 - Devon Achane, RB, Texas A&M 50 - Keeanu Benton, DL1T, Wisconsin 51 - Luke Musgrave, TE, Oregon St 52 - Steve Avila, OG, TCU 53 - Jordan Battle, S, Alabama 54 - Matthew Bergeron, OT, Syracuse 55 - Clark Phillips II, CBN, Utah 56 - Siaki Ika, DL1T, Baylor 57 - Jack Campbell, ILB, Iowa 58 - Gervon Dexter, DL3T, Florida 59 - Jalin Hyatt, WR, Tennessee 60 - Tyrique Stevenson, CB, Miami 61 - Kyu Blue Kelly, CB, Stanford 62 - Joe Tippmann, OC, Wisconsin 63 - Michael Wilson, WR, Stanford 64 - Cody Mauch, OG, North Dakota St 65 - Julius Brents, CB, Kansas St 66 - D. J. Turner, CBN, Michigan 67 - Kelee Ringo, CB, Georgia 68 - Zach Carbonnet, RB, UCLA 69 - B. J. Ojulari, EDGE, LSU 70 - Blake Freeland, OT, BYU 71 - Ji'Ayir Brown, S, Penn St 72 - Byron Young, EDGE, Tennessee 73 - Daiyan Henley, OLB, Washington St 74 - Nathaniel Dell, WRS, Houston 75 - Rashee Rice, WR, SMU 76 - Luke Wypler, OC, Ohio St 77 - Riley Moss, CB, Iowa 78 - Dawand Jones, OT, Ohio St 79 - Christopher Smith II, S, Georgia 80 - Chase Brown, RB, Illinois 81 - Kayshon Boutte, WR, LSU 82 - Sam LaPorta, TE, Iowa 83 - Tuli Tuipulotu, DL5T, USC 84 - Tyler Scott, WRS, Cincinnati 85 - Sydney Brown, S, Illinois 86 - Marvin Mims, WR, Oklahoma 87 - Jaelyn Duncan, OT, Maryland 88 - J. L. Skinner, S, Boise St 89 - Darius Rush, CB, South Carolina 90 - Henry To'o To'o, ILB, Alabama 91 - Eli Ricks, CB, Alabama 92 - Jammie Robinson, S, Florida St 93 - Tyjae Spears, RB, Tulane 94 - Zack Kuntz, TE, Old Dominion 95 - DMarvion Overshown, OLB, Texas 96 - Noah Sewell, ILB, Oregon 97 - Andre Carter II, EDGE, Army 98 - Tucker Kraft, TE, South Dakota St 99 - Cedric Tillman, WR, Tennessee 100 - Trey Palmer, WR, Nebraska

@VikingsFanInChennai I don't know when you are going to establish the new 2023 thread, but I'm gonna add some draft helps in this one, and you can just copy them over to the new thread. Here is the first round, in order: 1 - Panthers (from Bears) @ColtsGermany 2 - Texans @Jared Cisneros 3 - Cardinals @danlhart87 4 - Colts @coltsfanej 5 - Seahawks (from Broncos) @VikingsFanInChennai 6 - Lions (from Rams) @Mike06181 7 - Raiders @CR91 8 - Falcons @El Potro 9 - Bears (from Panthers) @csmopar 10 - Eagles (from Saints) @runthepost 11 - Titans @crazycolt1 12 - Texans (from Browns) @Jared Cisneros 13 - Jets @RNGDShobby 14 - Patriots @Archer 15 - Packers @John Hammonds 16 - Commanders @TomDiggs 17 - Steelers @stitches 18 - Lions @Mike06181 19 - Buccaneers @John Hammonds 20 - Seahawks @VikingsFanInChennai 21 - Dolphins - FORFIETED 22 - Chargers @NFLfan 23 - Ravens @Defjamz26 24 - Vikings @PureLuck 25 - Jaguars @Archer 26 - Giants @Defjamz26 27 - Cowboys @chad72 28 - Bills @Jared Cisneros 29 - Bengals @RollerColt 30 - Saints (from 49'ers) @SaturdayAllDay 31 - Eagles @runthepost 32 - Chiefs @chad72

Drafttek will do players by position. Although their site is becoming the living definition of the proposal made in Ready Player One: "We can utilize up to 86% of the visual area for ads without inducing seizures." https://www.drafttek.com/2023-NFL-Draft-Big-Board/Top-NFL-Draft-Prospects-2023-Page-1.asp Tankathon will do players by position, but it's like only for the top 100 players: https://www.tankathon.com/nfl/big_board And NFL Draft Buzz does it too https://www.nfldraftbuzz.com/positions/ALL/1/2023

I think the simplest way to summarize the two quarterbacks in comparison is: Mariotta is a starter who underperformed Minshew is a backup who sometimes has great games Overall, they're not much different. The differences between them are in the stats, how they are utilized, the players around them, the offensive systems they play in. And, if I may say so, their performance vs their expectations. One could say that the contracts they were offered reflects the summarizations above. One got underperforming starter money One got overperforming backup money

To be fair -- it could have been as simple as Campbell's agent telling him "What was the Colts record last year? What was the Giants record last year. Which team has a greater chance of having a winning record next year? Well, what do you want to do?"

I don't think he's an ideal solution, given that he's a Tampa-2 "short zone tackler" type corner, and we now need Cover-3 "turn and run" type corners. But I still wouldn't mind having him back. We have familiarity with him. Would be nice to have him.

I wouldn't be opposed to that. I wonder how much it would cost us?

Just how far down the draft board is this guy gonna fall? We gonna take bets?

Can somebody tweet that the Colts have actually done it? We've known for quite a while that they were probably going to do it. Possibly going to do it. Even planning to do it. Let's do it already.

Payton over Eberflus?

I wanted to sign Mike McGlinchey, but he got WAAAAAY more than we would have offered.