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  1. 3 hours ago, gacoop1 said:

    Luck is 28 years old, most likely will be ineffective if he even returns to play this season.  Then, will be 29 years approaching father time for athletes  at that age.  Sad to say, hasn't won or will he ever win the The Big One.  This is attributed to the running of the organization starting with the owner....Can't recognize talent in the coaching profession....Everyone has said this before, they ship out the wrong coach when Pagano came back from his sabatical leave....

    Ownership is critical in any sport. There are plenty examples of teams improving under new ownership after languishing under long term owners. Cubs, Red Sox. Heck, the Patriots never won anything before Kraft.

  2. 16 minutes ago, Thorolf said:

    Wow , I really hope you  are wrong about that, because the last time I saw that happen to a major Colts quarterback it ended up with him being traded away and then winning a superbowl for Denver! I sure hope you are wrong!

    Manning was on a Denver team that won a Super Bowl. He was not a good QB at that point. Flinging ruptured ducks around... The defense won that Super Bowl.

  3. 59 minutes ago, Horse Shoe Heaven said:

    Practice Luck hasn't even practices yet.

    My original statement had to do with the speculation on Luck's shrunken physique.  I haven't decided whether or not I believe it.  Agree he needs practice. What I'm wondering is whether Luck has lost muscle.  That would be very bad, as it indicates his physical condition is poor.

  4. 1 hour ago, Superman said:

     

    Just stuff people post that ignores fact and reason. 

     

    Oh, it's also annoying that people who actually like and root for the Colts are desperately trying to legitimize nonsense rumors that he wants to be traded, but that's a different story.

     

    And I do have it all figured out, obviously. 

    The post you replied to was my argument as to why Luck signed the extension.  You come in with your superior 'tude and exasperation that people are discussing Luck's situation. I believe players want to sign long term deals over franchise tag deals.

  5. 35 minutes ago, J@son said:

     

    The reason the colts did not put Manning on IR is because the IR recall had not been established yet.  In 2011, if they had put Manning on IR he would have been forced to miss the entire season, even if he'd been ready to return in the final weeks.

     

     

    You should have a big problem with this being true because if it were true, Luck would not have signed a 6 year extension last summer.

     

     

     

    Not if you signed the same 6 year contract extension that Luck did.  He has absolutely ZERO leverage to demand a trade. 

     

     

     

    Once again, if that were true, why did he just last summer sign a 6 year contract?

     

     

    There are over 41 million reasons why the colts fanbase should not worry about that possibility.

     

     

     

    sit him if the doctor says sit him...agreed but...duh.  the poster you were replying to did not say anything to the contrary.  the rest about sports networks matters about as much as the fans do

     

     

    No, because it barely takes 30 seconds worth of ACTUAL thought to know that these rumors are ridiculous.  Andrew Luck has been unhappy the past 2 years because he's been forced to play hurt?  that's absurd.  Last summer he signed a 6 year contract extension. 

     

    If he's been unhappy for the last 2 years, why in god's name would he sign a 6 year extension?  Why would he agree to a contract that he couldn't try to get himself out of until probably 2019 at the very earliest?

     

    one answer can apply to both of those questions, "He wouldn't"...and THAT's why this should not even be a discussion.

    I was discussing why Luck would prefer a long term contract to franchise tag.  Injury. It wasn't me who said he shouldn't have signed the extension. I happen to think he was smart to go that way.

  6. 41 minutes ago, GusFring said:

    There's a difference between a good player and a potentially great qb. Quaterbacks have leverage. Had he just asked to be franchised amd not committed long term, Irsay would have fired Grigson and Pagano long before. 

    The risk with franchise tag is always injury.  The guaranteed money for a star QB is a lot more than the franchise tag.  What if Luck had been playing on a franchise tag, was injured, and wasn't ready to play? Do you think he would have much leverage?

  7. 25 minutes ago, The Fish said:

     

    That "however unlikely" caveat is much, much larger than I'm guessing you're thinking it is..

     

    And frankly another distraction and more media talking heads trying to speak into existence Luck leaving would not be my idea of a "good problem".

    However unlikely, it has happened.  Wally Pipp getting replaced by Lou Gehrig.  Drew Bledsoe getting replaced by some stiff name Tom Brady...

  8. 28 minutes ago, buccolts said:

     

    But you can clearly see in the photos that he, in deed, has all his limbs.

    So a return is likely.

    Heck, it's just good to see the big fella back in his natural habitat.

    In some photos, he looks almost scrawny. In others, not so bad.  I wonder if he's close to football condition.

  9. 17 hours ago, jvan1973 said:

    Make no mistake,   I think tolzien is terrible.    I was upset they let Josh Freeman  go and signed him.   I have no doubt that eventually JB will be the FAR better option.   But I'm skeptical this week will ne considering he has been here such a short time

    I agree.  I read that the Patriots implemented a very limited playbook for Brissett last year.  He was a rookie, and now has valuable experience. Still, he could only manage a subset of Patriots offense even after a full training camp.

  10. 11 minutes ago, Superman said:

     

    So if someone says something false about Luck, and Luck denies it, his denial carries no weight because you're just going to dismiss it. That's fair. 

    We don't know what is wildly speculative, but there are reasons why this rumor exists.  What else can Luck (or his agent) do? 

     

    It's like Benghazi, which was all about a foolish video, until it was not.  People lied and people will always lie.  Please note that this isn't a political statement, my Benghazi reference was merely for illustration of my point. 

     

    Colts have the rarest of commodities - a tier one QB.  They should be able to surround him with enough talent to be a consistent force in the league.  That they have failed to do that makes for restless fans, which are ripe for tales of plots, maneuverings, and intrigue. 

  11. 7 minutes ago, PuntersArePeopleToo said:

    I get the idea of Brissett not having been here long to learn our playbook, but he was a Patriot the last year and offseason and it always seems that players have a harder time learning their playbook, even Reggie seemed like he did. So if he can learn that maybe he can learn our "easier" playbook too

    Keep the faith baby!

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