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14 minutes ago, cjrulli said:
Does LOS have any dedicated "super-fan" areas? I know I've been to other stadiums in the past and they actually have sections that require/strongly encourage you to stand, cheer, etc. Saddens me that I have to call that a "super-fan" area but I think it's time I try a different section at LOS.
I would assume so. I saw a few of them (Colts Super Fans) at the draft.
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25 minutes ago, krunk said:
I still think there's a way to slow that attack down. Same way it was with RG3 and Kaepernick. In fact their Coordinator was there with Tom Rathman in San Fran when he implemented that system. I don't think he's been made one dimensional yet. That's the key to whole thing and why his stats look as they do. I still don't think he'd be all that effective if you make him one dimensional. Baltimore always looks scary in one way or another every season. I'd be willing to bet he's not that great of a passer if you shut down that running game.
He's not that great of a passer...yet. But he's vastly improved from last year.
I am not even really sure how to make him one-dimensional. The way they built that offense and brought their vision to life...is damn impressive. They have TEs that can block if teams bring extra pressure...but also hurt you in the passing game. They have elite speed WRs to beat teams deep if they try to crowd the LOS.
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Shades of 2016...when they played a Must-win game agianst HOU in mid-December. Though this isn't quite must-win...but it's pretty close.
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Would have to see how the season plays out with the in-division record. If that is tied...it goes to common games. Right now...they have a two game advantage there since they beat OAK and LAC....but a lot can change because the Colts still get to play NO and CAR...who both beat HOU...and they both have TB left (HOU also has DEN left).
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It was a great play...but the game was over...so I can see how it gets lost in the recap a bit.
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Let Williams get his shot. I think this is what it would have been like to have Spencer Ware all season.
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Hopefully Desir can play...would love to see what Tell can do at a nickel S position.
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9 minutes ago, Smoke317 said:
Wow. Williams looked good today. He explodes through the holes & creases quickly. That's the kind of change of pace running we've been needing to compliment Mack's more probing style.
I heard a rumor that CB wanted Jacobs from Alabama & when Gruden took him we traded out of the first. He'd have represented what we saw out of Williams today.
I hope Mack isn't hurt bad because I think our O Line & running game were about to take off with Mack & Williams both getting carries.
That wouldn't surprise me. I think that Williams catch was the biggest chunk play by a RB in the passing game all season. More of that please.
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21 minutes ago, aaron11 said:
i dont think hes terrible or particularly good, i just hope we dont get stuck with him for a long time.
im not rooting for tanking either to be clear, its a weird spot to be in
Yeah...it is a weird spot. And you have to evaluate it from more than just an on-field stance. A big part of JB's value was tied to a low salary...which is now gone because he is a FA after next season...and will likely cost $25M+/year to retain going forward. Outside of the salary cap magically doubling YOY, I can't see any scenario where that is a great use of resources.
Unless they believe Chad Kelly is a potential top tier starting QB (they have given no indication of that)...then drafting a QB is literally a no-brainer. Get the guy you want...give him a chance to sit and learn for a year and then re-evaluate. IF JB takes a massive step forward...then it's a good problem to have.
Ballard was just leaving KC when they started a successful transition strategy, so he's somewhat familiar with it...and everyone in the NFL is familiar with KC's successful QB transition.
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Might be the only that throws deep less than the Colts. But a chance is a chance...so good luck to him.
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8 minutes ago, BleedBlu8792 said:
He was playing the right side, which he wasn't going to be productive at anyways, because he's not a rush-type end. He wasn't at OSU and of course against NFL LT's he's not going to produce. He's a strong side DE, which Sheard was already starting at anyways.
Again, why would they play him at a position he didn't play in college?
Because the Colts aren't very good at scouting DL players in college? Because that's what Eberflus wants?
I really don't know. This is sort of what they do though...they put Smith at RT, were going to try Banogu at SAM, moved Tell to CB...and wanted to put Lewis at DT.
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11 minutes ago, fahlman said:
Tyquan Lewis is still on his rookie contract for a couple more years and he will be here until that contact expires.
I mean...Basham was on a rookie deal.
And Fountain and Cain both have a couple years left. Wouldn't surprise me if at least two of those players are not here next year. Won't surprise me at all if 2/3 of Lewis, Fountain and Cain aren't here next year.
I don't see Ballard stubbornly holding onto players that aren't helping the team...he will just go out and find ones that can.
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4 hours ago, Chloe6124 said:
Maybe they just need to get him out there and give him a chance. Especially with the Turay injury. He was playing DE last year and seemed to do ok. Then this year they wanted to move him back inside.
The main reason he even played DE last year was because of injuries (namely Turay). I don't think they ever had much intention of playing him there. Going back to Ballard's quotes when they activated him from IR last year...you can tell they want him as an interior DL player.
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4 hours ago, BleedBlu8792 said:
He's absolutely a DE. He's not athletic/rangy enough to play either OLB spots, but he could be a serviceable/rotational LDE in a 4-3 system like the Colts'.
He was really ineffective last year at DE I think PFF gave him one of the worst DE grades in the league. I think they recognized this...and didn't want to put him there again. But then injuries kept piling up.
I thought he might provide some value as a pass-rushing DL on 3rd down....but even if healthy...I think he's buried on the depth chart.
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Lewis is just not a good player...on top of other issues apparently.
If he truly does have effort issues...or something else like that...then that’s even worse because his “character” is likely a big reason Ballard reached so bad on him.
Just never liked that pick. I am hoping we don’t look back and see how bad the Colts missed with all of these Day Two DL tweener players.
Campbell, on the other hand, has great upside...he just needs to get and stay healthy.
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1 hour ago, Blueblood23 said:
He should ask Irsay to make him whole. After all he gave Luck 26 million for doing nothing.
Irsay did let him play out the final year of his contract at a very hefty price...in what was supposed to be a rebuilding year. Most teams would have released Freeney in that scenario...especially with the switch to the 3-4. But Irsay is loyal...almost to a fault.
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4 hours ago, jvan1973 said:
He got swindled out of millions of dollars by his financial adviser
Yeah...they took $20M from him. After taxes, agent fees, etc...$20M in cash gone IS a big sum of money...even for someone like Freeney. Pro athletes are easier targets for these *.
I hope he is able to recoup some of that. I know the suit agaisnt B of A got dismissed...and he was going to sue Merrill Lynch...but I don't know the latest.
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9 hours ago, EastStreet said:
This is an obvious one. Every single team has played run heavy D against us. And we are still in the top 10. Macks average ypc was more last year than this year.
Blaming Mack or our running game, is like a guy cussing at his tires when his car's engine blew a rod.
Many teams have the RB1 / APB combos. See NE with Sonny and James White. Neither White nor Hines is an RB2, they're an APB or change of pace back. And APBs are typically much smaller and faster than their RB1 3 down back. This is not a problem. If you want a better RB2, they you're talking about Wilkins (Burkhead would be NE's comp).
He's doing better than Burkhead, and as good or better than most RB2s
I didn't blame Mack for the run game...I am talking about the talent level. For this season, I think it's the lack of light front carries moreso than stacked boxes. The average defenders in the box is about the same as last year...and he is on pace to only see 4-5 more stacked box carries vs. last year. But the light front carries are down and that's where his production came from last year.
A big part of the decrease is on the QB...and I am sure the last two games with Hoyer has only increased the base front and stacked front carries. But Mack is also part of it. He's not a pass-catching threat...and he's running the ball on half the plays he's in...so it makes the offense a bit more predictable.
So I don't want a RB2...I want a more well-rounded RB1a. Give me a Nick Chubb or an Aaron Jones type.
And Hines is alright...but he's not really an APB...because he can't run the ball. They just do that to keep the defense honest and it's typically a wasted play. But even if we call him an APB...he's fairly average. He has gotten better at making plays after the catch for sure...but still not that dynamic.
If I can't have that well-rounded RB1a...then I want a dynamite APB...ala James White or Duke Johnson...or Miles Sanders.
Ideally, I can have both...but it's rare to have that setup...like NO the past couple of years. Right now, I just feel like the Colts are missing parts to the RB game...and I think some investment could be made.
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8 hours ago, EastStreet said:
We had the #6 passing O last season without Doyle, Funch, Campbell, Cain, etc.. TY, Rogers, and Grant were the top 3 WRs (with Pascal and Inman coming on late). Pascal is a big upgrade to Grant. I'm not saying our WR unit is elite, but we did a LOT more with a lot less last year. Everyone's #s are down. It's obvious where this points.
Doyle was PBer a few years ago. He had almost 700 yards in a Chud offense with JB. 700 is more than check down....And I'd say if he's only behind Gronk and Kelce, that's damn good. Ebron had 750ish last year, and had drops too.
In short, there's more than enough talent at TE. If Luck had both these guys last year, they'd both be 500+.
Yes...I agree JB is the big reason the offensive numbers are down. I think you are confusing my post as an excuse for JB. I am just looking at the skill position talent objectively...and it's not overwhelming.
Doyle's best year was with JB...so I don't really get this argument about JB holding him back. But that Pro Bowl year (two years ago) was a byproduct of volume as the checkdown option in a bad offense (his yards/catch was <9). Now those checkdowns get spread round (Campbell, Pascal, Hines). I like Doyle just fine though...but he's a solid complimentary piece...and he's also going to turn 30.
I liked Ebron as well when they signed him. But he's a pass-catching TE...who drops passes...he's not some special talent. The Colts need long-term improvements at TE...they can't just keep re-investing more money in the same two guys. So I hope they explore the trade market...or maybe one of these free agent-to-be TEs becomes available.
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8 hours ago, EastStreet said:
Bringing a high powered WR2 would be a waste with our aversion to go vertical. The only thing that might help JB is a good possession type WR, and we have that in Funch who will be coming back shortly. Pascal is an above average possession option too. And no way I'm trying to replace Mack if JB is under center. Doesn't matter who you get at RB, teams will over scheme vs our rush, and the any investment in a higher profile RB would also be wasteful....
If JB improves in several areas, I'm all for upgrades to an extent. I'm not going to try and upgrade all O skill positions when finding an upgrade at QB makes the entire O perform better in all phases. If you think we wouldn't be a top 10 O, or even top 5 with Luck, I'm not sure what to tell you.
Right...I am not saying put the cart before the horse...QB play is still paramount. And my reservations about the current status of the QB position are well-documented. I am just saying...in addition to QB...I think the current personnel on offense is not as strong as it could be (especially long-term)...and the best parts IMO are starting to age out.
I felt the same last year with Luck...where they had even less talent. They would likely be a top 10 offense now...but they were top 10 before Reich even got here (when Luck was healthy that is)...and they could have been better.
IMO...if you are going to invest in the OL like the Colts have...and hire an offensive-minded HC...don't build an offense with middle and late round picks, UDFAs and one-year FA castoff signings at the skill positions. The Campbell pick was a good start...but I hope to see more investments made toward that goal (chief among them would be QB of course)...because they certainly didn't invest in the OL for Jacoby Brissett to run an efficient low-scoring offense.
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12 hours ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:
Just like Winston and Mariota was. Neither could carry Jacoby's jockstrap. Oh the draft, how entertaining and a crapshoot it is unless Andrew Luck is coming out.
Winston throws picks...but he isn’t awful like Mariota (at actually being a QB).
If both were JB and Winston were FAs and evenly priced...I bet Winston would have more interest.
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2 hours ago, Coffeedrinker said:
Just wanted to point out that the college QB rating is different than the NFL QB rating. In the NFL a 158.3 is perfect. In college a there is no real limit on the max QB rating so no perfect score.
Yep...Burrow is currently rocking a 202.5 rating and Tua has a 204.5 rating. Those two are locked in at the top 2 picks in this upcoming draft IMO...and it's going to be very interesting to see the debate...ala Manning/Leaf and Luck/RG3.
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15 hours ago, EastStreet said:
Actually good is the enemy of great.
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Top 5 even with a QB who has a bottom 10 time-to-throw
Top 5 even with Ds selling out to stop the run because they don't respect our passing
Rushing game
Ranked 10th in the league Y/G even though teams are focusing primarily on stopping it
Mack is 8th in the league
Receiving game
Hilton - 4x Pro Bowler, who has led the league in yards
Ebron - Also a Pro Bowler who led all TEs in TDs, and 2nd overall (including WRs)
Doyle - Another TE with a Pro Bowl under his belt
Hines - Was close to setting rookie records last year for a receiving RB
The rest - you have a few vets that Luck used efficiently last year. You have a high priced one year rental that got hurt. You have a promising rookie that has been plagued by injury.
In short, the OL and running game are top 10. We have arguably the best TE duo in the league, and 3rd in the NFL on TE spending. We have WR1 that has proven he's one of the best in the league. We have a receiving RB who was just a bit outside of the top 10 (RB receiving yards) last year.
The passing game and all components have taken a big step back this year, with arguably better receiving parts than last year. The glaring deficiencies point to one position, not to holes all over the offense.
I would say it's a combination...and I don't the offense is great overall...from a talent standpoint...outside of the OL.
WR
Hilton is a stud, but aging. After him...WR is pretty weak. Campbell as upside...and Pascal looks servicable. Calling it an average group is probably generous.
TE
Doyle is a solid functional TE...but never been a top player at the position...and he will be 30. His one Pro Bowl (alternate) year was because Kelce and Gronk didn't play. And that was the 2017 season with JB under center...and Doyle was the checkdown option. Ebron is what he is...who had one monster year with TDs...but is largely an overrated pass-catcher. I hope they look to upgrade the position after this season (please LAC...let Henry walk).
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The running game is top 10ish...I guess...but they also run more than most team teams. They are #5 in rush attempts...but #11 in yards. They only have 4 rushing TDs on the season...and have struggled running the ball in the RZ. Mack is a decent enough RB. He blew up against a terrible (at the time) LAC run defense...and since then...it's been a mixed bag.
Mack is also limited as a pass-catcher...and Hines is not an NFL RB...so the RB skillset is limited overall and makes the offense predictable. Hines is a solid pass-catcher...but pretty average.
Wilkins is a decent RB2...but doesn't move the needle.
I agree that QB has held back the offense this year...and it's an area I truly hope they have an open-mind about going forward. But I also hope they are only getting started on the offensive side of the ball...because it needs work...if they are serious about competing in the future.
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12 minutes ago, Jared Cisneros said:
If you can reasonably debate me on this, I'd love to hear it. Otherwise, this is terrible news.
To be fair...it is difficult to have a reasonable debate when what you are debating is unreasonable to start...and the idea of a 5-4 team deciding to tank is very unreasonable...especially with the amount of truly bad teams out there this season.
I would be fine moving on from Vinny...but I understand why they haven't. The mistake was bringing him back and not really having a plan to replace him. I think they will get through the season and it will get sorted out then.
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