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15 hours ago, Fisticuffs111 said:
I think Doyle’s game will age just fine. Lots of TE’s play well at his age.
I wouldn't say lots. Olsen is a HOFer. Cook and Walker are much better receiving TEs.
As long as Doyle isn't the best TE on the roster...I have no issue with him playing here into his 30s.
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1 hour ago, Chloe6124 said:
If I was a QB I would want to go as late as possible because you are going to a better team. That is ultimately better for the future and making more money.
I would want as much gtd money I could get. Ideally, a good team traded up to get you...but I think these guys are mostly alpha types that would welcome the challenge of turning around a bad team.
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37 minutes ago, Coffeedrinker said:
This is all a real stretch. You cannot count Fountain he didn't make it out of training camp and he may have had the same type of impact as Cain. Ebron is not a WR and you can't blame JBs poor deep throw QB rating on his injury because he has missed one game in these stats.
Same thing with Rogers... he's been there all season and just got hurt a few days ago, his injury is not why JB struggles with the deep pass. Lastly with TY and Campbell, JB has not had great deep passing when they have played but it would be interesting to do a comparison of JB's 20 yard QB rating with TY and without. I would guess it's not that different.
So, in conclusion. JBs poor rating over 20 yards can't be blamed on the loss of the top 6 WRs or pass catchers (if you want to now change the term), because they have not been missing the entire year and there hasn't been a huge drop off after some got injured.
Yeah...we can't keep using Funchess as an excuse. He's been out since Week 1...and people weren't missing him when JB was still getting plenty of praise weeks later. But now that JB has regressed...the absence of Funchess is suddenly impactful.
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1 hour ago, CantBeStopped said:
Your gonna let our best player in the secondary walk?
Fortunately, they don't actually have to make that decision until after the 2021 season. He will get his 5th year option exercised.
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5 hours ago, DougDew said:
I'd prefer a talented TE taken higher. The S is an interesting pick, since I'd lean towards letting Hooker walk at the end of his contract.
I know people think JB is not the answer, but I'm not sure Love is either at this point. Its still a risk we end up getting someone who is just as incomplete as JB (maybe in a different way) and waste a 1st rounder.
I want a talented TE as well...but it doesn't seem like a very strong group. I would probably shoot for an upside play in the middle rounds (3-4).
So much can change if Hunter Henry (or Austin Hooper) becomes available. In that case...Ballard has to make Henry the priority in FA. So fingers crossed.
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Might have to slow the roll on the Jordan "love."
I wouldn't be surprised if he did in fact end up at Texas Tech. Makes a lot of sense...especially if he is getting intel that he might end up late 1st-2nd round. A season at TT, with better talent around him...could put him in the top 5 with Lawrence and Fields.
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49 minutes ago, crazycolt1 said:
How does any QB in the NFL rate 33rd?
Regardless of your opinion of Brissett PFFs ranking are nonsense.
I think they have a qualifying cut off...probably snaps or attempts...so in theory...you could have upwards of 40 QBs ranked...depending on what it is.
I am not the biggest fan of PFF either...but they seem to be using criteria here that would rank JB low. Rather that's the correct way to do it (or if any of their ways)...is a debate for another day...haha.
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9 minutes ago, Superman said:
It's actually really simple. JB isn't good at throwing the ball down the field, and he and the staff know it.
You keep presenting this argument that throwing downfield isn't valuable, and that's just dead wrong. But that's a discussion for another day.
You and others also keep presenting this argument that, because the receivers aren't the guys the team expected to have at the beginning of the year, it's not possible to be productive throwing down the field. But there's a reason players wear the same color uniform in games, and we have ocular proof of receivers open in various spots on the field, including down the field, but not being targeted. The first prerequisite for downfield production is receivers getting open; the second is the QB throwing the ball. The first is happening, the second is not.
We don't need to muddy the waters on this, even though that's your MO. It's clear cut, plain and obvious. JB has bad downfield numbers because he's not good at that part of the game.
Great post. And I would give you another "upvote" just for the use of "ocular"...but I can't.
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2 hours ago, Flash7 said:
Imagine you're Reich and you've spent half of the season calling plays with receivers at different levels -- deep, intermediate, and short, and Brissett repeatedly throws short.
Do you continue calling those plays, or decide to play to Jacoby's strength -- short passing game. Not a quick short passing game, just a short passing game where Jacoby takes forever to decide what he wants to do, and then dumps it off late to the RB.
Or maybe you just starting running it 70% of the time.
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Vinny will very likely end up on IR...after this week.
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1 hour ago, aaron11 said:
https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-quarterback-rankings-entering-week-14-2019
they dont think much of him either, good weapons would go to waste
PFF is what it is...but using their criteria...it’s hard to argue with that ranking...or at least somewhere in that area.
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38 minutes ago, MPStack said:
21.5m next season!
Yeah...JB is a good dude...but when people say they feel bad for him...I can’t help but laugh a little. He luckboxed into a starting QB job and then got a one-year $28M extension before even playing a snap.
I understand their reasons for doing it...but I wish they hadn’t. But since they did...I hope they take advantage and bring in a rookie to groom.
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41 minutes ago, MPStack said:
I’m certain most GMs don’t think, “we can get our QB of the future in the 2nd Rd or later” when it’s definitely a priority.
Yeah...I can’t imagine a GM having that mindset...unless they just inexplicably loved a couple of middle round prospects.
And even in that case...they are taking them earlier than they probably need to.
I am all for using a 1st on a guy they want...and I don’t think Ballard will mess around. But he will have a lot more intel in a few months...and can plan accordingly.
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21 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:
I get your point, I am sure Ballard agree's. JB even by my eye ball test doesn't suck. We are just used to Peyton and Luck. Ballard may draft a QB and to be honest I would be happy if he did but not in round 1. He may get a gem in round 2 or 3 or so.
I think 2nd round is as low as he goes...but we will really just don't know anything (yet) about how he will approach it. QB is just such a different position than any other when it comes to drafting.
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3 hours ago, BleedBlue4Shoe86 said:
First in the NFL in fewest percentage of dropbacks with ball held for less than 2.5 seconds (36.7)*
First in the NFL in dropbacks with ball held for more than 2.5 seconds (63.3)*
How can he be both of those things?
Also...Florio really likes JB...and I am sure it has nothing to do with the team that drafted him.
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8 hours ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:
None of those QB's had a GM like Ballard either. If Ballard is a top 5 GM in the league which many think so then he can build a good team around any average QB and we should have a shot of winning it all. Honestly I would take JB over any of the QB's you just named as well.
But my point is...even if he could build around an average QB...why should he? For starters, no GM is good enough to build a consistent Super Bowl team without a legit QB. Dorsey was pretty damn good in KC...and those teams were talented...yet they won 1 playoff game in 4-5 years.
If Ballard is truly a top 5 GM...then that's even more reason to shoot for a legit franchise QB...not settle on an average QB. A top 5 GM, a franchise QB and top tier coaching is the stuff of dynasties...or multiple rings in a 5-6 year span. Why you intentionally put yourself at a disadvantage in one area...when you have clear advantages in other areas? Just seems like you are robbing Peter to pay Paul.
I mean...is he going to just stop being a good GM or just stop adding talent to the roster because they used resources on a QB? I have always thought this "great roster vs. great QB" debate was a false choice (sort of like FA vs. the draft). Why not have both? Sure there are opportunity costs and financial logistics involved in finding and keeping a top tier QB...but a savvy GM as good as Ballard is purported to be...should be able to overcome that...especially early on in that QB's contract...and especially when he's sitting on $100M in cap space.
We all got a taste of what an improving Ballard team with a top tier QB could look like last year...that's the direction I want to see this team take.
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Okereke has been pretty much as advertised...good in sub packages in pass coverage...and somewhat of a liability in run defense...hence the lower number of snaps.
Comparing him to Devin Bush is a bit unfair. Bush was in the running for DROY...is on a completely different level of athleticism...and probably has All Pro upside.
But hopefully Okereke can get stronger and improve his run defense...to possibly be Leonard's 3-down running mate. I do wish the Colts had the luxury of using a pick on a stud MLB...but that's probably not going to happe anytime soon. I know people like Walker...but he's not that guy (and he's one of those guys I hope Ballard is selective about when re-signing players).
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20 hours ago, stitches said:
Disagree on Hurts and on Herbert. I still like Herbert a lot and wouldn't mind drafting him... but there is something about him... I cannot quite put my finger on it that bothers me. He looks a bit passive/conservative to me. He doesn't use his tools to the full extent of his abilities. It's a bit weird because Love and Herbert are often put in the same bucket as the big-arm, playmakers of the draft, but they are kind of on the opposite side of their aggression tendencies - Love is raw and wild both in positive and negative ways... he's like a wild stallion just slinging it out there without regard for consequences and Herbert is more polished and this year has been very deliberate and somewhat too conservative with his throws. I've watched most of his games this year and I cannot really think of many long passes he's completed.
About Hurts - Oklahoma is running on over 60% of their snaps. This is insane. This is Ravens-like. I don't trust Hurts as a pocket passer, I actually think he has some of the same problems that Brissett has in the pocket (slow to process, not great anticipation, dropping his eyes when leaving the pocket, etc). IMO if you draft him you need to go full Ravens mode with the run game, but I don't think he's as good and elusive of a runner as Lamar and he takes some brutal hits on his runs. I don't think he can survive for long playing like this with even bigger and faster defenders in the NFL.
Haha...you don't happen to write for the the draft network, do you...because that is an excellent description.
I agree re: Hurts. I am intrigued...but I would rather not go that route. Now if you said the Colts could get him in the 2nd round...get a legit WR1 in the 1st round...a high-end TE prospect in the 3rd round...AND get Hunter Henry in FA...I might be more open to it. Because that's basically what was able to do.
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If the first 5 picks are on defense...I will take part in a violent public disturbance.
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1 hour ago, Stephen said:
Grammar police
Haha...it's a Seinfeld reference...from the bubble boy episode where George is playing Trivial Pursuit against the bubble boy.
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5 hours ago, Stephen said:
It's a moor point this year. Hoyer throws to the other team and kelly will never get playtime unless Brissett and Hoyer go down due to stubborn coaching staff
Sorry...it’s the moops...not the moors.
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11 minutes ago, hoosierhawk said:
Saw you reported that prior. Were did you see the report that he didn't show up. Just curious.
I heard that as well...not sure if it was officially reported. I think he ultimately went to another game that had multiple prospects. Regardless, the Colts had a strong presence there. I am not sure what the practice is around GMs going to one individual's game. They have the tape...and a lot of the final (and official) evaluation can be done in the offseason Bowl games, Combine, interviews, visits, etc. For example, when KC was scouting Mahomes, I don't think Dorsey went to any of his games.
But I am sure Ballard is very familiar with Love at this point.
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16 minutes ago, Chloe6124 said:
What I have seen from Holder is being fair. He routinely will talk about Jacobys bad game but he also talks about how he isn’t the only one to blame for this season. There are lots of reasons this season went south. Jacoby is just one of them. I have really been pretty disgusted with a lot of colt fans this year. There has been so many factors that have played into this losing stretch and to blame it all on the QB is just wrong.
I definitely agree with that there are lots to blame...and I am not even trying to put it on JB. I am just saying I think Holder certainly has an agenda (and/or personal biases)...and it comes through in his writing and especially in his tweets and responses...and I don't really care for him most of the time. I am sure he couldn't care less that I feel this way...it's JMO.
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18 minutes ago, DougDew said:
Good post.
I see the WR/TE problem too, and it will take a lot of draft picks or cap money to fill all of the holes, especially when you realize that a replacement for TY will be needed soon. That's a first round draft choice right there just to maintain the talent level we have, and we need to add to it a lot.
Hooper is the ATL TE? I think its possible ATL blows their team up this year....will likely get a new HC....but I think Hooper is one of the fan favorites and might be a guy they want to resign.
And don't rule out the need for a RB. Mack is pretty good, but everybody else needs upgrading. Hines might stick as a KR/PR, but somebody more dynamic than him in the running game should be considered. And during Philly's SB year, I think Blount was their horse. We don't have a pounding guy like that.
Yeah...RB can be one of those 4-5 picks as well. Mack has durability issues...Wilkins is a depth RB (because it is clear they are not going to hand over the reins to him)...Williams is a FA (maybe they re-sign him...but who know)...and Hines is a decent gadget player (but he's not really a RB and he's not really a big play guy...even though you would think he should be). I could see the need for a complete RB that can compete for carries.
I think ATL is at somewhat of a crossroads. They certainly have talent...but can't seem to put it together. They just gave both Ryan and Julio big time money...so I don't know if they would be rebuilding necessarily...but retooling is definitely a possibility. If they can clear a good amount of cap space...Hooper will definitely be back.
But if ATL is truly thinking about blowing it up...I dream on the possibility of acquiring Calvin Ridley. I think he's a superstar with a QB that will get him the ball...great speed, great route running, great hands and a knack for the EZ. He would be a perfect WR1 to replace Hilton and to develop a young QB with (ala Marvin and Manning). I doubt it would ever happen...but teams have been more open to trading players than ever before...and he is going to get expensive after next season.
Doyle signed to three year extension
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Agree. His cap hit isn't much higher than as it has been...so it's fine. Still...interesting that he gets a raise after missing a most of a season to a hip injury and then having a down season in production (for various reasons)...but it's around what other similar TEs got.
I just hope he they aren't planning on him being TE1 going forward.