[Bengals @ Colts Game Day Thread, October 18, 2020, 1:00pm ET]

3 minutes ago, crazycolt1 said:

Just when Doyle was written off by most in here. 

This whole team is bipolar. You don't want to ever see them in Colts uniform at one point, then they make some amazing play... make boneheaded mistakes one moment, then game saving play the next drive... Hell even game to game you have Rivers being horrible last week and then having ... THIS game....

[Bengals @ Colts Game Day Thread, October 18, 2020, 1:00pm ET]

Rivers has been great this game. He's dissecting that defense. I kind of want him to take over a bit. I trust him more than Reich right now. He changed a couple of plays at the LoS on that drive and was right both times. 

[Bengals @ Colts Game Day Thread, October 18, 2020, 1:00pm ET]

Just now, HungarianColtsFan said:

I meant stitches to our wounds (our TD).

 

[Bengals @ Colts Game Day Thread, October 18, 2020, 1:00pm ET]

3 minutes ago, HungarianColtsFan said:

Stitches!

Hey, sup? 

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This is atrocious playcalling. HOW MANY RUNS on 1st down!?!? HOW MANY? I'm getting * off... 

[Bengals @ Colts Game Day Thread, October 18, 2020, 1:00pm ET]

This is not a good football team.

[Combine Testing and On-Field Drills Thread - Day 3 - DL, LB]

Here's something I heard on a podcast - an NFL exec has reportedly said Brown has never been properly challenged in college ... he's always been stronger, bigger, more talented than most of his opponents and the expectation is that he might struggle to begin with in his NFL career, so it's important to know what you think about his determination and work ethic and how he will react to adversity and whether he will be willing to work for it all. The speculation right now is that the absolutely horrendous 3cone is due to the fact that he probably never even trained for it. This is kind of a worry, in and of itself - that he didn't prepare better for the tests. I wonder how much he drops in the draft? 

[Like Iowa OL are typically rated high, DBs are underrated]

9 minutes ago, Valpo2004 said:

  

 

  (Perhaps he was overshadowed by Epenesa?)

What's the explanation for Epenesa's combine numbers? I didn't expect him to be a burner but damn, that's pretty slow. Can he fall to R2? 

[Like Iowa OL are typically rated high, DBs are underrated]

 

 

He fits both system-wise AND length-wise what Ballard wants. I wouldn't be surprised to see him drafted by the Colts. 

[NorthernColts post combine mock]

Here's my attempt...

 

 

As you can see I cheated because I knew Love might not go until our second pick. In reality I probably wouldn't have the balls to let him slip. 

[Combine Testing and On-Field Drills Thread - Day 4 - DBs]

3 minutes ago, Defjamz26 said:

Borderline 1st round player.

One thing that might drop him a bit is that he's not very young. He will be 24 at the time of the draft but he's aced every part of the pre-draft process so far. 

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[Combine Testing and On-Field Drills Thread - Day 4 - DBs]

The safeties are running the 40 now. 

 

Terrell Burgess 4.46... this is nice for him... he's quite versatile safety... plays all over the defense. 

Jeremy Chinn 4.46 ... great testing for Chinn... 

 

Kyle Dugger 4.50

Xavier McKinney 4.64

Tanner Muse 4.43 ? doesn't look this fast on tape

J.R. Reed 4.55

L'Jarius Sneed 4.38

Geno Stone 4.65 (PFF favorite... they thought he would be the new Darnell Savage... not with that time, he won't be)

Antoine Winfield Jr 4.48

[Combine Testing and On-Field Drills Thread - Day 4 - DBs]

10 minutes ago, NFLfan said:

 

Vikes are in need of CB. For years, Colts fans have lamented the drafting of Werner over Rhodes. He may become of free agent. He may be a cap casualty. We also may not re-sign Trae Waynes. We need secondary help with safety Anthony Harris possibly leaving too. That Cousins contract was a killer. We used to re-sign all our valued players before they reached free agency. Now we may lose many pieces of our defense.  

Yeah, that's what I mean when I harp on not giving franchise QB type of money to non-franchise QB here. Just your margin for error becomes so slim and you start losing quality elsewhere on the roster and in that moment it's important for the player you are doing this for(the QB) to be able to compensate for the talent you lose. 

 

How are Mike Hughes and Holton Hill developing? Are they ready to take over? I liked both coming into the league. 

 

Oh, BTW Winfield Jr hasn't worked out yet. He's with the safeties AFAIK. 

[Combine Testing and On-Field Drills Thread - Day 4 - DBs]

Diggs looking nice in the gauntlet. Fulton and Gladney too.

 

Henderson was so on balance too... He looked so good flipping his hips too...

 

Those top tier CBs look about as good as the WRs in the gauntlet. 

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4 minutes ago, NFLfan said:

 

Thanks. Do you have a favorite guy amongst the CBs and safeties? Has Winfield Jr run and done the drills?

Okudah is awesome. But out of range. 

 

I liked Dantzler but that time is... yikes... might be disqualifying. 

 

Trevon Diggs and Bryce Hall in the second would be nice... 

 

Kindle Vildor is interesting too... not sure where he goes? Third? Not sure. 

 

[Combine Testing and On-Field Drills Thread - Day 4 - DBs]

Just now, NFLfan said:

 

Any reason why Diggs is not running? Is he hurt?

no idea... he's doing the drills, so... probably not hurt... just chose not to run 40. 

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Okudah fell funny doing a drill and might be injured now... 

 

edit: tried to get back and continue the workout... Deion pretty much convinced him he doesn't need to:

 

 

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3 minutes ago, Defjamz26 said:

What did Hall run?

He's probably not running. Not sure he's recovered from his injury yet. 

[Combine Testing and On-Field Drills Thread - Day 4 - DBs]

Trevon Diggs 
Bryce Hall 
Lamar Jackson 4.65
Bopete Keyes 
Michael Ojemudia 4.45
Jeff Okudah 4.48
Kindle Vildor 4.44

 

Jeff Gladney 4.49
Harrison Hand 4.52 
Noah Igbinoghene 4.48

[Combine Testing and On-Field Drills Thread - Day 4 - DBs]

Last day of the combine is here and it's one of the more exciting days. I love watching the DBs work out... some of the best athletes coming into the league. I also think this CB class is kind of good in the first couple of rounds. 

 

Here's the sheet with the known measurements as of now:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1kWcb-dn9aqgn2pM6teYGbxiA4Kql1aMMrgjvtD-ofTE/edit#gid=894401990

 

I posted this in another thread but worth pointing out what type of players Ballard seems to like when it comes to CBs:

 

Here's an article about Seahawks' preference for their CBs to have long arms(over 32")

 

https://www.espn.com/blog/seattle-seahawks/post/_/id/25533/in-search-of-a-seahawks-type-cb-start-with-32-inch-arms

 

Ballard is similar and our FO has connections to the Seahawks one... so... can you guess what's in common between Quincy Wilson, Rock Ya-Sin and Marvell Tell? Yep... all of them have arms 32" or longer

 

Quincy Wilson 32¼"

Rock Ya-Sin 33⅛"

Marvell Tell 32"

 

 @NewColtsFan pointed out that Kenny Moore has long arms too...

 

So yeah... watch out for the players with some length in the workouts today

 

Here are all CBs that measured with 32" or longer arms:

Alabama CB Trevon Diggs
Virginia CB Bryce Hall
Nebraska CB Lamar Jackson
Tulane CB Bopete Keyes
Iowa CB Michael Ojemudia
Ohio State CB Jeff Okudah
Georgia Southern CB Kindle Vildor

 

Close but not quite there:

TCU CB Jeff Gladney
Temple CB Harrison Hand
Auburn CB Noah Igbinoghene

 

From the safeties(over 32" arms):

Jeremy Chinn

Kamren Curl

Kyle Dugger

Josh Metellus

J.R. Reed

 

 

[What are your top 10 picks predictions right now]

6 minutes ago, MikeCurtis said:

Stitchman

 

You get what I said before and what I still say

 

Love was going to test very well

 

He has all the needed skills

 

I think it’s a high likelihood that he is gone before our pick

 

I guess I am coming around to trading up...... but for a better prospect.... like Tua

 

I see Tua and Burrows as blue chip prospects

 

I don’t see a blue chip in Love......

 

If I am giving up large capitol...... it’s for a safer pick

 

I see the potential in Love.......  I am ok with him being taken at 13..... IF he is the guy the front office is in love with

 

Yeah, that's understandable. Contrary to what people seem to think, I absolutely understand why some might not be on board with Love. Tua(if healthy?) and Burrow are no. 1 in the draft type of prospects and I don't begrudge anyone for having them over Love... 

 

The thing I've been thinking about trading up for QBs is - at the end of the day, if you love the guy and believe in him and if he pans out, there really isn't price too high to pay for him. If he pans out it will be worth it, and if he doesn't it won't be worth it, no matter if you traded up for him or not. So... the biggest question with QBs is really the evaluation and the risk you are willing to take with the prospect(and all of them have some risk factor, even Burrow, although lower with him)... 

[Combine Testing and On-Field Drills Thread - Day 3 - DL, LB]

Here are some later round EDGE players I have to look at after their combine numbers(good)

-Derrek Tuszka

-Jabari Zuniga and Jonathan Greenard 

-Alex Highsmith

-D.J. Wonnum

 

LBs:

-Casey Toohill? @NewColtsFan is he any good? Because he hits the athleticism marks and has long arms. 

-Azur Kamara (I watched some highlights of him - he was lining up on the LOS but no hand in the dirt, he's listed as LB... arms - 35"+!!!)