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True. I'm sure we would've have traded down for three or four hall of famers with that late first round pick. Way better then acquiring a solid starting halfback.
Solid, " that's funny, I don't care who you are" he's a very lucky man, because if he were this solid for any other team in the NFL he would be benched, and there wouldn't be a single member of the fan base trying to defend him. He plays for the only team in the NFL that would put up with his indefensible lack of production. Too bad that team is my team.
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Just bustin' yer chops. Don't get all poopy pants on me.
it;s all good.
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Yes he does run a 4.45 forty time. There is a thing call google. Look it up
and the league is full of 4.2 linebackers, because I have seen them run Trent down from behind on screen passes.
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Giving up a first, a first pick (that ended up being used by the Eagles for OLB Marcus Smith) that so far is a nobody contributing a lot less (nothing?) than Richardson is, is a sunk cost. History. Yesterday's news.
Richardson is contributing. Sure we'd love to see his average a yard or so better, but to be fair, as was the case last year, a lot of his carries he really has no chance on. Other carries, he should do better. Like a different poster pointed out, though, Richardson is not the only "name" back with less than desirable average per carry numbers.
So, for ME, I don't care where he was drafted or what draft pick we gave up for him, as THAT is now irrelevant. What matters is that he reliably contributes on the field and to me, that he is doing, as revealed by his top spot in all-purpose yards, the premise of this (now moved / merged) thread.
24 more touches and 9 more yards, he's really producing. more touches that is.
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this whole t-rich being the forum's whipping boy is getting old. I dont get what some of you are mad about. the first pick we traded turned out to be a primodonna benchwarmer
this whole t-rich being the forum's whipping boy is getting old. I dont get what some of you are mad about. the first pick we traded turned out to be a primodonna benchwarmer
What the Browns drafted with that gift, has nothing to do with what we could have drafted.
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We gave up a low level first for him plus he isn't making a ton of cash. The combo of Richardson & Bradshaw have been pretty darn good this year.
Yeah it makes for a good one, two,( wait a minute,) it makes a good one, one and a half punch.
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Trent clearly has progeria. You didn't know?
You've watched Trent for a year now.
You've watched football for plenty of years.
Are you seriously going to tell me you think Trent Richardson is capable of running a sub 4.5 forty yard dash now?
Seriously?
The NFL is full of linebackers that run a 4.2, because I've seen many of them run him down from behind on screen passes.
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JACKCOLT, I hear Indiana University is now enrolling people in their exclusive "How to post" classes.
I've also heard that their teaching basic football 101.
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Believe me I want to see Trent do great, I'm a Colts fan. I want him to be the best back in the league, but the facts are he is one of (if not the) the worst backs in the league. Having 9 yards more than the next guy on the team when you have had 24 more touches, is not producing, it's pathetic. I"m not even saying he should never play, he is good pass blocking, but he is a situational player, not a #1 back. Why would you give him the majority of your touches, when you have three other guys who could get you more.
it's not about where he was drafted or what was traded for him, it's about his pathetic production, he's at his best a poor #2 back, or a decent #3 back.
It is amazing that anybody could be happy with his production. The Colts have went out of their way to try to make this work, but at some point you have to face the facts. Richarson is not very good and other guys on the team could produce more with his touches. You wouldn't give Whalen the majority of your pass attempts, so why give Richardson the majority of the touches.How can you be happy with Richardsons production, when you have backs that could you get you more, it makes no sense. Bring him in the game, in situations where he can help the team. Just don't make him the #1 back and give him the most touches, when anybody else could get you more. All the Trent lovers better hope that Herron or Tipton don't get any primetime touches, because then it will be very hard to justify Trents playing time. I will gladly it crow if Trent becomes an average back, cause like I said, I'm a Colts fan and I want what's best for the team. I just don't see anything that points to Trent being what's best for this team. I've never wanted to be more wrong in my life, but I've seen enough and I hope the Colts are at least considering giving Herron or Tipton a chance to see what they can do.
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Giving up a first, a first pick (that ended up being used by the Eagles for OLB Marcus Smith) that so far is a nobody contributing a lot less (nothing?) than Richardson is, is a sunk cost. History. Yesterday's news.
Richardson is contributing. Sure we'd love to see his average a yard or so better, but to be fair, as was the case last year, a lot of his carries he really has no chance on. Other carries, he should do better. Like a different poster pointed out, though, Richardson is not the only "name" back with less than desirable average per carry numbers.
So, for ME, I don't care where he was drafted or what draft pick we gave up for him, as THAT is now irrelevant. What matters is that he reliably contributes on the field and to me, that he is doing, as revealed by his top spot in all-purpose yards, the premise of this (now moved / merged) thread.
Giving up a first, a first pick (that ended up being used by the Eagles for OLB Marcus Smith) that so far is a nobody contributing a lot less (nothing?) than Richardson is, is a sunk cost. History. Yesterday's news.
Richardson is contributing. Sure we'd love to see his average a yard or so better, but to be fair, as was the case last year, a lot of his carries he really has no chance on. Other carries, he should do better. Like a different poster pointed out, though, Richardson is not the only "name" back with less than desirable average per carry numbers.
So, for ME, I don't care where he was drafted or what draft pick we gave up for him, as THAT is now irrelevant. What matters is that he reliably contributes on the field and to me, that he is doing, as revealed by his top spot in all-purpose yards, the premise of this (now moved / merged) thread.
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As I noted in another post which you may not have seen.
Any time Trent has that's sub 4.5, it was hand timed, not fully electronic.
And there's a big difference between the two.
He might've run that fast once upon a time a long, long time ago. But recently? Not a chance.
I doubt he ever ran a 4.5 forty, but if he did in 2011, that was good for 2011. He definitely doesn't run a 4.5 in 2014.
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Giving up a first, a first pick (that ended up being used by the Eagles for OLB Marcus Smith) that so far is a nobody contributing a lot less (nothing?) than Richardson is, is a sunk cost. History. Yesterday's news.
Richardson is contributing. Sure we'd love to see his average a yard or so better, but to be fair, as was the case last year, a lot of his carries he really has no chance on. Other carries, he should do better. Like a different poster pointed out, though, Richardson is not the only "name" back with less than desirable average per carry numbers.
So, for ME, I don't care where he was drafted or what draft pick we gave up for him, as THAT is now irrelevant. What matters is that he reliably contributes on the field and to me, that he is doing, as revealed by his top spot in all-purpose yards, the premise of this (now moved / merged) thread.
I too, don't care where he was drafted or what we gave up to get him. My problem is how bad he is. Leading the team in yards from scrimmage by 9 yards when you have had 24 more touches than the next guy is pathetic. The only thing he is contributing to is number of touches. I believe without a doubt that Herron, Tipton or Bradshaw could do more with these touches. That's my point
He's not helping this team by getting the most touches, and like I said, I don't care where he was drafted, what we traded or any of that, it's the fact that he gets that majority of touches, when a undrafted free agent could get more, are you really pleased with his production? He's a situational player not a #1 back that should get the most touches.
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Giving up a first, a first pick (that ended up being used by the Eagles for OLB Marcus Smith) that so far is a nobody contributing a lot less (nothing?) than Richardson is, is a sunk cost. History. Yesterday's news.
Richardson is contributing. Sure we'd love to see his average a yard or so better, but to be fair, as was the case last year, a lot of his carries he really has no chance on. Other carries, he should do better. Like a different poster pointed out, though, Richardson is not the only "name" back with less than desirable average per carry numbers.
So, for ME, I don't care where he was drafted or what draft pick we gave up for him, as THAT is now irrelevant. What matters is that he reliably contributes on the field and to me, that he is doing, as revealed by his top spot in all-purpose yards, the premise of this (now moved / merged) thread.
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This article says it all, what a productive back we have in "the sloth"
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He had 24 more touches than Bradshaw and 9 more yards. That is absolute pathetic. Think about it, those 24 more touches produced 9 YARDS. That's really producing, he also has the highest dropped pass, percentage on the team at 14.3% and leads the team in fumbles with two. People on this board actually call him productive, any back-up running back in this league would produce more yards than Richarson. I hope at some point the powers to be will stop this crap. Give some of his carries to Herron, Bradshaw or Tipton, anybody but the sloth, and this teams production will soar. Yes he definitely is "holding this offense back"
Bradshaw- 34 carries for 182 yds and a 5.4 yds per carry 0 fumbles-14 receptions for 134 yds and 1 drop 6.58 per touch
Richardson-61 carries for 203yds and a 3.32 tds per carry 2 fumbles-11 receptions for 122 yds and 2 drops 4.51 per touch
Bradshaws rushing average alone is nearly a yard higher than Richardsons, rushing and receiving average combined. He may be the only back in the league, that could produce so little with so many attempts
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He had 24 more touches than Bradshaw and 9 more yards. That is absolute pathetic. Think about it, those 24 more touches produced 9 YARDS. That's really producing, he also has the highest dropped pass, percentage on the team at 14.3% and leads the team in fumbles with two. People on this board actually call him productive, any back-up running back in this league would produce more yards than Richarson. I hope at some point the powers to be will stop this crap. Give some of his carries to Herron, Bradshaw or Tipton, anybody but the sloth, and this teams production will soar. Yes he definitely is "holding this offense back"
Bradshaw- 34 carries for 182 yds and a 5.4 yds per carry 0 fumbles-14 receptions for 134 yds and 1 drop 6.58 per touch
Richardson-61 carries for 203yds and a 3.32 tds per carry 2 fumbles-11 receptions for 122 yds and 2 drops 4.51 per touch
Bradshaws rushing average alone is nearly a yard higher than Richardsons, rushing and receiving average combined. He may be the only back in the league, that could produce so little with so many attempts.
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Trent Richardson is by far the worst starting running back in the NFL. He is unique though, he is the only back in the history of the NFL, that can't move laterally without coming to a complete stop first, he has no lateral quickness, no ability to move laterally at all. The other unique ability he has that no other back in the NFL has, is the ability to run the ball with completely no vision at all.
When the Colts (the team I love) are through trying to save face, this guy will be out of the NFL for good. Let me point out that I'm not saying any of this because I'm a Trent basher, it's not Trents fault. Trent is not to blame, He's going to play and accept the teams money as long as they are willing to give it. I don't blame him at all. I too have no ability to be a NFL back, but I would take their money and playing time too.
Everyone, except the Colts powers to be and a few delusional fans on this site, know he's not an NFL quality back, not even a back-up. Forget the no.#1 pick, I moved on from that a long time ago. He shouldn't be on this team if he cost nothing and was playing for the vet minimum, much less getting the majority of the carries
Never has a back done so little and been called productive by some members of its fan base. This is laughable. "I like the one two punch we have with Richardson and Bradshaw" one is a punch and the other is a whiff. but the most hilarious one is "I like how Richardson wears them down and then we bring in Bradshaw" wears them out laughing, that we have such an incompetent back getting most of the carries
I don't know what it is with the Colts powers to be, you would think they would want to give us the best chance to win, but we all saw Satele play over Shipley and even Mcglynn who was better than Satele. Some of some of those same delusional fans would say "'you don't see them practice every day and the staff does" no I didn't, but I seen them play every sunday and it was pretty damn obvious who was better, as obvious as it is that Trent Richardson is not an NFL back. the sooner the Colts figure this out and give some of his carries to any other back on the team, the quicker will see how good this offense can be.
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I'm not just talking about the Tenn game. I'm talking about what I've seen since he became a Colt. I just believe he leaves yards on the field, and that someone like Herron or Bradshaw could get more production with some of his carries. The hole is not going to be there with every run, but if you can bounce it outside or cut it back you can still get yards, sometimes big yards.
I just don't feel like Trent has the lateral quickness to do this. When the hole is not there, he either runs into the pile or gets caught behind the line trying to make a lateral move, (which he just can't do). Some of Bradshaws biggest runs are when there is no hole, and he just bounces it outside for big yards, Herron can do this too. Anyone can run it through, when the hole is there. We shouldn't just concede that 10 to 15 carries a game are going to go for nothing, when we have backs that could get something out of some of these carries.
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I have rooted for Dewey McDonald ever since we signed him as an UDFA and will continue to do so now more than ever.
I too have been rooting for Macdonald since we signed him and hope he can show us something with this opportunity.
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So when the holes are there Trent can be average, when the holes aren't there Trent can be Trent. His best game was average with a side order of double fumbles.
He isn't fast, he can't find a hole unless its big enough to drive a truck through and his big runs are usually in the 10 yard range.
When he picks up average yards its because he is learning and becoming a beast, when he gets less then 3 ypc then its because the line.
He is a 3rd overall pick he shouldn't need much of a hole to get yards and his longest run shouldn't be a yard less the Peyton's longest run.
Against tough defenses he should be putting up average numbers and against weak defenses he should be putting up huge numbers. Instead ad he can deliver average numbers against a team playing the pass and horrible numbers if they actually play the run.
If Trent was handed the ball at the 20 and took off the wrong way and scored a safety for the other team 75% of this board would blame the line or say the box was stacked so he had to.
I agree 100% some just do not want to face the fact that this trade was a mistake and Trent will never be anymore than he is now, which is below average.
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Wow..... it only took one whole sentence to turn a resounding win into a complaint that the coaching staff doesn't know what they were doing. And then you spent the rest of the paragraph talking about how obvious the fixes are. Except to our coaches. Congratulations.
Perhaps you missed the thread this week (it's still on this page) about the coaching staff pacing Bradshaw? They are. They could start him and give him the vast majority of touches and the odds are, he'd be out for good by week 10.
Most of the time Richardson had no where to run today. There was very little room for him. Gruden noted it on the Monday night game vs. Philly. When he's being tackled behind the line of scrimmage, it's not a Trent-problem. It's a line/coordinator problem. When Trent has some room, he can run just fine.
The offense looks great two weeks in a row..... how about we focus on that.....
Wow.... it doesn't matter what you post on here, some sm#rta#s, will always chime in with a sm#rta# comment about something you didn't say
I didn't say Bradshaw should get all the carries, I didn't even say he should get the Majority of the carries, but I guess you didn't see that (its still on the page)
I said I thought Trent shouldn't get the majority of the carries- you could make it 50/50 Bradshaw/Trent or give some of Trents carries to Herron.
I didn't say the coaching staff didn't know what they were doing, I just stated that I would like to see, (I thought Shipley was better than Satele too) but that's for another thread.
I don't think I'm smarter than the coaching staff, but I'm not dumb enough to think the coaching staff always does what's best for the team. Trying to save face comes into play in football like every thing else in life.
I 'm also not dumb enough to believe everything Gruden says.
I said when the hole is there Trent will run through it and get you some yards, but gets you nothing when it's not there, unlike Bradshaw or Herron.
The problems I pointed out about Trent (lack of lateral quickness) exist no matter how the line is blocking.
I also said great game, and pointed out that we have scored 40plus two weeks in a row.
I like the team (I'm sure) would like to focus on being even better.
Feel free to post on things I didn't say anytime you like
I like to interact and comment on things being said, not come off as some sma#tas# commenting on things that weren't said.
Perhaps you were commenting on another thread since nothing you said related to my post.
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First, great game, Colts score 40plus 2nd straight game. The only thing holding this offense back from being the #1 offense in the NFL( hands down), is the coaching staffs insistence to give Trent Richardson the majority of the carries. Give Herron or Bradshaw just half of Trents carries and this would be the #1 offense in the NFL. I have been on Trents side from day one and I want him to succeed, but he will not get you yards unless there is a big hole there, he can not get anything when the hole is not there, he has no lateral quickness at all and doesn't have to ability to move laterally without coming to a complete stop first, unlike any back I've ever seen, and without that ability to move lateral, he can not pop it outside or cut back against the grain, between that and his lack of speed he can not get anything on his own. Every game he has seven to ten carries, where if he could pop it outside the way Bradshaw does he could pick up big yards. Give those carries to Bradshaw or Herron and they will pop it for big yards. Trent runs very hard and is powerful, but on the plays where the hole is not there he just can't get you anything and he's never going too. He just doesn't have that ability, and Bradshaw and Herron do. I know he had a couple of plays where he picked up yards and a good reception on one drive, but he is just leaving to many yards on the field and this hurts our offense, because we could be that much better if Bradshaw or Herron were getting these carries. I know this sounds like beating a dead horse, but I have been a big supporter of Trent, but I have seen enough, he just doesn't have it. There are situations where he can help this team, but as long as he gets the majority of the carries, he is holding this offense back. He is a situational back and nothing more, it's plain and simple and until this coaching staff realizes it and moves own, he is holding this offense back from being all it could be.
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Oh wow, you are so freakin cool man. Quotes are used when you are stating what someone else said. You are just typing a normal statement with quotes around it and it makes you look ignorant.
Whining abut someone else using quotation marks, makes you look like "whiney +"
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Reggie seems to still have the great hand, and great route runner and I've always felt that Reggie was the toughest WR in the game, but he does seem to be having trouble getting separation, this may just be rust, but it could be he has lost a step, and even though he is not asked to run a lot of go routes, it is effecting his ability to get seperation.
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That's what is so sad about it, you know the Colts can't be happy with the way he's playing, they see the same things we do, even worse they see it every day in practice too. I understand them wanting it to work out, because of what they gave up, but at what point do they draw the line. How long will they continue to use him as the #1 back, and continue not to give Herron or Tipton a shot.
The players have to see it too, and they are risking the players not believing the staff is doing what's best for the team, as a player you see what Trent can and can't do. You also see what Herron and Tipton can do. That's why I have to believe that a line will be drawn at some point. So far it hasn't cost us much, but if it does and things go a little south, it could become a big problem. Most guys are going to toe the company line and say the right things, but you let it cost us a game or two and this could cause big problems.