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13 minutes ago, Colts_Fan12 said:
Peyton was smarter than any QB ever could read a D better than anyone made mid and late round talent look amazing year in and year out he won a SB on 2 different teams hes just a better player he did more with less talent than any other player in history
Late round talent?
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1 hour ago, NFLfan said:
What is odd about it? Serious question.
You're questioning why I'm here as a non-Colts fan. Pretty simple concept.
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2 hours ago, LockeDown said:
Whoops, I knew there was another Pat fan i needed to put on ignore. Thanks.
You missed one more.
Way to ignore the question though.
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Agreed. I told my wife, "This game is about to be decided by a coin toss." I had little doubt that either team would go down and score a TD on their first drive.
Instead of counting possessions and going with a sudden death thing, I'd rather see them play a timed 5th quarter. One team scores, fine... you play the full 10 minutes. And then move on to a 6th, if necessary. At least in the playoffs.
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52 minutes ago, Lucky Colts Fan said:
I know. It just felt like I got kicked while I was already down.
I'm not happy the Pats are going to yet another SB, but goldang, I have a ton of respect for what the Pats did to the Chiefs in Arrowhead last night. Belichick can beat anyone anywhere anyway. It's not fair!
I've got my hater-pants on, and I didn't put them on one leg at a time. I jumped into 'em both feet first before going to bed last night.
It was admittedly a bit of a jab but not really at you, LCF.
52 minutes ago, Gramz said:It is to each their own.
I remember Peyton's final year as a Bronco, beating the Pats, and advancing to the Super Bowl. Several Pats fans noted they would NOT be tuning into the game that year.
It is what it is. You can't expect other teams fans to be as excited, or even interested as you are.
I watched the sport as a kid, teenager, and young adult when the Patriots were terrible. To me, the game itself is the fun part. When your team does well that makes it better for sure. But yes, if I'm being honest, I don't get how someone would follow an NFL season, over the course of months and months, just to tune out at the end because they don't like one of the teams that's in it.
All these people claiming they won't watch will have plenty to say on February 4th if the Patriots lose, I can almost guarantee you that!
41 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:I visited the Pats website quite a bit when Denver made the SB and they were salty when Peyton won his 2nd SB. Their times of saying Peyton is a choker went out the window. Once you win that 2nd ring nobody can claim any player as a choker. Peyton winning with 2 different teams was what really bothered them because he did something Tom will never do. They were so hoping Brock Osweiler would play
but didn't happen. That 2nd ring was huge. I realize Tom is about to get #6 but Peyton won with 2 different teams which cements him as a Top 3 QB ever and he has still has 5 MVPs to Tommy's 3.
I don't think any "real" fans were saying that about Manning after the 2006 AFCCG. To me, he shed that label in the comeback win that year. Whether it was the Patriots or the Colts playing Chicago, the real Super Bowl that year was the AFC title game, IMO.
38 minutes ago, NFLfan said:
Why does it matter to you? Shouldn't you be enjoying this win and another trip yo the SB? Or do you take more pleasure in reading that other fanbases are bitter?
I don't post as much as I used to, but I've been hanging around this board (or previous versions of it) since 2004. Yes I was interested to see what the hot takes were going to be today. As a Vikings fan on a Colts board, this is an odd question for you to ask me.
27 minutes ago, dodsworth said:Just tired of watching the same mundane title game every year.
The only fans watching this vomit are from the North East.
SB ratings skid in 3...2...1...
You're probably going to miss a GREAT game.
25 minutes ago, Gramz said:Fair question.
If there's something you want to say to me you should say it... I'm a big boy, I can handle it Gramz. I consider us pals but I also found a way to be happy for you every time the Colts or Broncos beat the Patriots.
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6 minutes ago, Lucky Colts Fan said:
I know you're just having some fun, and I have a pretty good sense of humor...
But man... this post really rubs me the wrong way.
It hasn't even been 24 hours since the Pats got into another SB, and a Pats fan is in our forum trolling us... C'mon man.
I'm sorry man, no disrespect intended. I'm just having fun. I've been reading various threads here for an hour or so and let the hatred of others get to me a bit!
I don't know, I can't imagine NOT watching the Super Bowl, regardless of who's in it. To each their own, I guess.
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This is a tough one to call.
If you look at the three NE losses in the Super Bowl - twice to the Giants, once to the Eagles - those were not the powerhouse teams of the NFC in those seasons. They were more of the "catch lightning in a bottle" kind of teams, like the Patriots were in 2001. Credit to NY and Philly for playing far over their heads, but something tells me the Patriots will be better off playing the Rams than they would be playing one of these red-hot, road-tested teams.
The Rams are better than Philly was last year. They're better than the Falcons were two years ago (better defense) and maybe on-par with the '14 Seahawks.
I like the Patriots in a game very similar to last night's. Maybe a slow start, but something in the range of 31-28 or 34-31.
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3 minutes ago, chad72 said:
Mahomes plays a lot like Peyton in his early days, going for 20 plus yard passes instead of checkdowns and that is used against him with the depth of the LBs that Belichick opts to play. He doesn't know how to manage the clock well and hopefully learns like Peyton to do so.
However, none of his pass catchers were generating separation and the story of the game boiled down to 2 things:
a) Predictability of Chiefs' defense that Brady just had to audible to one kill out of 2 calls he made in the huddle, Bob Sutton had no creativity whatsoever
b) Patriots' DL ability to get into Mahomes' face thus making the pocket uncomfortable and pressuring him on 40% of the snaps while Brady was pressued about 11% of the snaps
The Patriots did a great job of limiting Hill and Kelce... I know Kelce had a TD, but he was limited to three catches for 23 yards. Hill had just one catch the entire game. That, combined with the pressure that they were able to get rushing only 3 or 4, was the key to slowing down the Chiefs for a half.
Pressure is the key to beating ANY quarterback, really.
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Here's a link where you can find movie times in the Indy region on 2/3/19:
https://www.fandango.com/indianapolis_+in_movietimes?date=2019-02-03
(Seriously, you guys are bitter, lol...)
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On 1/19/2019 at 11:54 AM, LJpalmbeacher2 said:
To compare the great Unitas to a dinking dunking cheater is a INSULT.
Brady left Unitas in the rear-view 10 years ago.
No disrespected intended toward an all-time great, but Johnny U. isn't even in the discussion anymore. Sorry to lay that reality on you.
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15 minutes ago, Gramz said:
If I remember correctly, the roughing the passer came after a 3 and 10, and would have then been 4 and 10, but instead gave Pats a first down...and that drive resulted in a TD.
Article this morning...
Chris Jones is called for a phantom roughing the passer penalty
Situation: Second-and-7 on the New England 28-yard line, 7:10 to go in the fourth quarter
Score: Chiefs lead 21-17
Well, this is awkward. Earlier this week, I wrote about how there isn't much evidence of Tom Brady getting a disproportionate number of roughing the passer calls. So, several days later, Brady ... gets a shaky roughing the passer call when the Chiefs defensive lineman appeared to hit Brady in the shoulder, only to be called for a blow to the head. Thanks, refs.
It was a terrible call. I'd also point out that it's the fourth time Brady has benefited from a roughing the passer call in 1,002 postseason dropbacks since returning from his torn ACL in 2009, which is one penalty for every 250.5 dropbacks. Teams like the Cardinals and Vikings have benefited from roughing the passer penalties more frequently over that same time frame, and the mark is right in line with the Pats' regular-season average since 2009 (224.5 dropbacks per roughing the passer call). It was a bad call, but it's also not representative of special treatment for Brady in the postseason, as much as that one play might suggest otherwise.
From the same article...
J.C. Jackson commits pass interference on Watkins
Situation: Second-and-10 from the Chiefs' 37-yard line, 3:07 to go
Score: Patriots lead 24-21
Two plays earlier, Jackson helped push the ball downfield with a critical defensive holding penalty. The Chiefs got plenty of calls in their favor in the second half, although they'll mostly be forgotten in the years to come as people remember the Edelman review and the Jones foul. I'm not saying that to suggest that the calls were unwarranted, just that they mattered.
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25 minutes ago, #12. said:
The stats say Mahomes played well, but I didn't think he played that well. In the first half, he was taking sacks and overthrowing receivers left and right. In the second half, he got lucky with some screens that went long and some pass interference calls. Over time, I'm not sure his sandlot style will win consistently, especially in big games. You can't be that hit or miss. He was nonexistent for a half.
Something I noticed about Mahomes...
Very few of the big plays they generate are by design. Almost every play where they had big gainers last night were broken plays. That's not necessarily a knock on him, but when he's sitting in the pocket trying to read the D and go through his progressions, that seemed to be when most of his overthrows occurred. That part of his game needs some work. To some extent he's still getting by on his insane athleticism.
The Chiefs ended up being a classic high-powered-offense team... high scoring, but with a porous defense. That formula rarely works in the playoffs.
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The Patriots definitely lucked out on the roughing-the-passer call. I can't recall the exact context of the game at that point but I believe it gave them a first down on a 3rd down. The ref, watching in full speed and probably from a poor angle, made a bad call on that one. That said, there were two or three calls the other way that extended KC drives that I thought were borderline.
Aside from that play, what else are people complaining about relative to last night? I think they got all the reviews right... Edelman never touched that punt, even though he tried to... Hogan held on to the one-handed catch but didn't secure that one near the sideline... and a player lining up offsides is not a judgement call. It was fortunate for the Patriots that the play got wiped out but there was pressure coming on that one and the Chiefs had a guy lined up offsides that probably contributed to it.
As for the balance of his career... tell me, what's more likely?
That one player in the history of the NFL (all sports, really) is this lucky, or that he's the reason these things happen?It amazes me the lengths to which some opposing fans go to discredit the most accomplished quarterback in the history of the league. I get the bitterness and the animosity, but you're never going to hear me, as a Boston fan, say that Magic Johnson sucked, or that Dan Marino was an overrated bum, or that Derek Jeter got every call his way.
As for any claims of games being fixed... it's not even worth talking about if that's where your mind is at. If that's really what you believe I'm not sure why you follow the sport or post on football message boards. It's sour grapes, plain and simple.
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It's gotta be the Eagles... that ball went through Alshon Jeffrey's hands at like the 22 yard line. Even if he just doesn't catch it and it falls incomplete, they still have a decent chance to win that game.
The other two games were much more one-sided.
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6 minutes ago, Lucky Colts Fan said:
This'll be the last time we see a bad guy like BB/Brady.
Ha, good man... I've always liked you.
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3 minutes ago, Lucky Colts Fan said:
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1 hour ago, LJpalmbeacher2 said:
There's No Storyline when the pats are involved. Kraft will use his power and cheating to influence as many AFCCG's and SB's as he can.
A person in Vegas can bet them to beat KC and then Parlay it to win the SB. If they win SB they'll probably cover a small line(maybe even be underdogs) and in essence your getting back 3-1 on tour bet.
Their window is 'supposedly closing' and sure don't pass the eye test BUT LOOK how the chargers played defense against them. Exactly how Brady wanted them too, zone and not press. They never even adjusted. 85% of Brady's passes traveled 10 yards or less in air! Not a good defensive scheme against a team with NO VERTICAL RECEIVERS and Brady not consistent throwing mid range/ deep anymore lol.
The Chiefs will probably employ same defense as chargers as will the Saints/Rams.
From a football standpoint you can't see patriots winning. But we're talking about patriots here so you have to lean on thought they will get another tainted title.
I don't know who hurt you.
But it wasn't Tom Brady. Let it go.
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19 hours ago, Four2itus said:
I try to not butt in on other conversations, but I can't refrain on this one. I only am saddened by one thing regarding the Patriots...it's most of their fans. This response by you is a perfect example.
A Pats fan, here, posting this, is the absolute clear definition of a Brady/BB era Pats fan. You likely won't believe it, but I would not trade the experiences/fortunes of our teams. Not for anything. Stock up on good vibes during the last years of your dominance. It's going to be a long....cold...winter in the future.
I joke around about it because it's ridiculous how far some people will go. I enjoy watching football but some people take it way, way too seriously.
Every "scandal" is overblown because of what JimJaime said. There needs to be a villain. The Patriots - once a plucky underdog that upset the Rams while the post-9/11 world rooted for them - have become that villain. Only people who don't bother learning all the facts think differently.
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2 minutes ago, csmopar said:
Who's hating? I'm speaking in sheer facts...
I just don't hear the cries of "Cheaters!" too often anymore. Not even from Jets fans.
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1 hour ago, csmopar said:
Depends on the measuring stick used... If I had to pick a coach based on morals and ethics, I'd pick Reid (and about 30 other coaches) before picking the Hooded one. If was picking on sheer results, albeit tainted ones, I'd go with Hoodie every time.
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If you skip the Super Bowl because the Patriots are in it, then you've missed some very, very good games. None of them have been blowouts (except '85!) and all of them have come down to a few plays here or there.
I'd rather see a competitive game, even if my team isn't in it.
Maybe some prefer 43-8 blowouts? Haha...
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1 hour ago, chad72 said:
Is that what you meant to say?
Brady's 6 will have a new meaning if he does. Like Phil Jackson, like Michael Jordan, having that many rings in a team sport in the current era will put you on a different level.
I don't mean to be a troll here, but when you look at the sum of their accomplishments (Brady and Belichick), it's far-and-above anything we've seen in the NFL, and on-par with the greatest dynasties in sports (all-time).
Division titles, championship game appearances, Super Bowl appearances...
It's been an unprecedented era of excellence, and one that will likely never be duplicated in the NFL.
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1 hour ago, Gramz said:
@GoPats. Not going to quote you, to save space, but I said the exact same thing to my husband last night. I really won't be surprised with anything in this game.
I hope it's a good game, and no offense to you, I hope it's a KC win.
Us non Patriots fans are tired of NE Super Bowls.
No offense taken whatsoever. I totally get it.
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Nothing would really surprise me on Sunday night. I can see just about any result playing out... Chiefs winning easily, Patriots winning easily, or a hard-fought, tooth-and-nail kind of game. They've been very up-and-down for most of the year and at this point it feels like any outcome is just as probable as any other.
I was 13 years old when the Patriots defied the odds to make it to SB 20, where they'd get crushed in historic fashion by the '85 Bears. They were a mediocre team for a couple of seasons after that, and then from '89-'93 they were the worst team in football. They won 19 games in 6 years. So, an average of just over 3 wins per season.
It got better in '94, and hiring Parcells and drafting Bledsoe got them out of the doldrums. Then Parcells left, and the team steadily regressed over three seasons with Pete Carroll. In steps Belichick, and they go 5-11 in his first season. Then, early in '01, Mo Lewis hits Bledsoe and the skinny kid from Michigan took over.
I'm not doing this to give you guys a history lesson you don't want! My only point is that if you find Patriots fans to be overbearing, try to remember where we came from. What we came from. Aside from reaching one Super Bowl where they were handed the worst beat-down in the history of the game at that point, the franchise was basically a barroom punchline.
I have - most thoroughly, and unapologetically - enjoyed the last 18 seasons. At some point Brady will be gone and Belichick will be gone, and it won't be like this anymore. We're closer to that than we are to where it all began. So hang in there, haha...
but didn't happen. That 2nd ring was huge. I realize Tom is about to get #6 but Peyton won with 2 different teams which cements him as a Top 3 QB ever and he has still has 5 MVPs to Tommy's 3.
Why does it matter to you? Shouldn't you be enjoying this win and another trip yo the SB? Or do you take more pleasure in reading that other fanbases are bitter?
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No disrespect here, but I'm not quite following you.
I disagree with the notion that games are "fixed" because, with a football game, that's virtually impossible.
I also don't see how you guys would think the NFL really WANTS the Patriots to keep winning. If they're "fixing" games for New England, they sure have a funny way of going about that. Unless you count taking draft picks away (and suspending Brady) as part of it...
I may be completely misreading you here though. If I am, my apologies.