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Lets say game comes down to the final seconds, score is Tenn 21 Colts 14, then the Colts score as the Clock expires making it 21/20 with the extra point to come....Do yo kick it and go to overtime or do you go for 2 for the win and your first win of the season?
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No..The Jags dont car about anyrthing.
.and if you remeber..Peyton was throwing and running before his last surgery.
This assumption that next year is promised is charming
If you don't think that the Jags defense would like nothing better then to lay a whoooop butt down on Peyton and such, you are dreaming....
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I think you get out there if you can because you are the captain.
You are the leader.
If you can play...Manning goes out there with Saturday and Addai and Wayne and Clark and Mathis and Freeney and tries to win one because that's what they do.......
I would. You would too. Who are we kidding?
I don't think there is any question Peyton wants to play. But would you allow your child to play in the street if they wanted to?
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To say he has done nothing physically in 10 months isnt really true, right?
..and to play a few series in one game..with 3 weeks throwing?
He's a QB..he does not block or tackle...
How long does it take the kicker to get ready?
Oh sure he has held his kids, changed a few diapers, drove around Indy, made some personal appearances and such...but he has done nothing football wise since the end of last season.
He does get tackled, he might have to make a tackle and he can get blind sided and be sacked. Unlike a Kicker who hardly ever see's action, a QB is target No. 1 of ever defensive player. Do you NOT think that the Jags would go all out to put Manning out fo the game possibly out of the NFL? I wouldn't be surprised if the Jags wouldn't put a bounty on his head to see whom can knock him out of the game.
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Cause why?
Because PM has had major surgery. Because PM has not done anything in almost 10 months physically. Because to get NFL ready takes more then a couple of weeks tossing to your WR/TE and RB.
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He's throwing to receivers at practice. Does that count?
Nope...
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Is he lost?
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It will impact them directly. They will have a new coaching staff and maybe even a new GM. Several of the current players may be moved out as part of the rebuilding effort.
In a lot of ways this horrible season may be just what this team needed to knock them out of their arrogant complacency. I think the consequences of it will be positive going forward.
As of right now we don't know what this season will due to the franchise. We could keep all our coaches and Gm and just tweek the roster to a full house cleaning...as of right now we don't know...
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Yes, DN thats why we are all fans.. so we can watch our team get pounded each week. We love to watch that!
hey, news flash.. every fan with the exception of you obviously, wants there team to win every week. Why oon earth would be want our team to loose?
When I watch any game I look at the talent and right now the colts are not the better team on the field due to lack of a QB. So if they win great, if not I look at how they performed and the effort they gave....
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As long as they go out and give 100% I don't care what the result is at this point...
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COACHING, COACHING, COACHING
No team looses one player and goes just a forgone conclusion ( outside maybe the Jacksonville game ) 0 - 16. Peyton is in my opinion the Greatest QB of all time but we should be able to pull off at least one win, being the only team in the league that hasnt won a game speaks volumes because we are not the least talented team in the league.
When the 1 player you lose is the most important player on your team and maybe the most important player to a roster in the league and the backup is horrible, then yes what is happening can happen.....
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Exactly, you gotta pick & choose & hindsight is 20/20, but some of the ex-colts that I see making plays on other teams are'nt household names that would've been wallet busters. Giordano for example, he has had a few great games in Oakland
But are they doing better or playing well because they are being used better or differently in the system their team is going with? Would Dallas Clark have put up the numbers he did in say an offense that is geared more towards the run?
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Training camp lasts one month and then they play..
Eventually...you have to go out there.
You may call it dumb...but I'd like to win a game
What's wrong with him playing if, as you insist, he's cleared to play?
Yes training camp last 1 month. Peyton won't even have gone throught anything close to that over the next few weeks. Add to that the lack of "ANY" work over the summer and there is ZERO chance his body is ready. Second, what does it matter if we win the game or lose the game? We are not going to the playoffs, it won't impact our draft status, so there is nothing to be gained by playing him. Lastly he won't be cleared, no doctor in his right mind will clear him for in game action at that point, NOT going to happen.
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Compare how??? If you look at the draft you will see that teams have some busts picked prior to the colts picks & there are starters & pro-bowlers that the colts passed on...
If you look at the colts drafts alone, very few 1st or 2nd round picks are really panning out...
True but have the Colts had more failures then other teams? Look at the Pats, they have been drafting defensive players who are not panning out, so for me I would like to know in a draft review of say the past 5 drafts how the teams breakdown in players taken to still on the roster, playing level and such...
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And while I dont disagree with that (the comparsion to other teams), I just dont care. I don't care what other teams are doing. I care what my team is doing. And what my team has done in 3 years is manage to land 5 avg players. I dont need to look at the Browns to know that is unacceptable.
But that is unfair, if the Colts drafting and % of success/failure is on average with what is happening in the NFL how can that be so horrible? I doubt any team is hitting 1000.00, so to be fair you need to see how Bill has done compared to the other GM's.
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Yeah if you look at the drafts since 2006 you can see why we are 0-13 with Peyton out...
especially with Polians "build through the draft mantra", not that I think Free Agency would save this team, but colts've let some good role players leave.
but the "In Polian We Trust" sentiment no longer holds much weight
Did they let them leave or could it be that they couldn't afford them? In the cap age teams are forced to make tough decisions and I doubt the Colts are the only team that have had to let good players walk....
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So of the 23 Draft Picks we've had from 07-09 10 are still on the team. Less than half. Not only that but lets break down those ten shall we.
07-None
08-Pollak (marginal at best), Wheeler (Ok), Tamme (marginal), Garcon (OK)
09-Brown (scrub), Mola (scrub), Collie (ok), Painter (scub), Mcafee (Good) Powers (ok)
So of the ten, we have 3 scrubs, 2 2nd/3rd stringers, 1 avg LB/CB, 2 avg WR, and a good Punter.
And you think this was cherry picked?
How does that compare to the rest of the NFL, to me that will show how the Colts ahve done draft wise...
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It's done....
Peyton has not been cleared to play, he has been cleared to increase his conditioning and workout, not to play...HUGE differnece
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All teams have peaks and valley's so I guess yes from 2009 where they won 14 to 2010 where they only won 10 there was a slight dip. This season doesn't count, because there is not one person here who believes that if Peyton wasn't missing this team wouldn't be a 10-12 win team this year again. We are bad this year because the franchise made a horrible choice in whom the backup QB would be and for whatever reason a refusal to switch earlier to Dan and for some reason a non decision to dumb down the offense. To me what has happen to the Colts is a fluke, not a decline. A decline is what happen to say the 49ers as they got older and changed players over and didn't make good decisions and were/have been bad for a long while since the Montana/Young era's.
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IF we are 0-15 and Caldwell thinks 1-15 will save his job, he will pull the regular starting QB and start Manning.
Caldwell won't be given the option...Peyton will not be cleared to play by any doctor with a degree of knowledge.
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Can Billick and the Polian's co exist would be the question. How much "power" would Billick want and would Chris and Bill be willing to give it to him.....
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In my book a real fan doesn't pick two or three teams to root for...
Why not? I grew up with the Bucs, suffered through years of horribleness to see them get to where they are now. Moved to Indy in 87 and have been a fan of the colts since then. I see no reason a fan can not support two different teams, especially when they are in different leagues...
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Miami wasn't the best situation in the world and you can't blame for jumping ship to Alabama. It will take a unique set of circumstances to get him away from Alabama. . He lied to the media to make the final weeks with Miami as smooth as possible. What dedication is it to your players when you are 14-0 and you take them out of the game?
He walked away from LSU with full knowledge of what was going on in Miami, then bolted from there when he got what he thought was a better offer. Sorry but I have zero respect for a man like that...
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I think both are great QB's and will finish their careers in the top 10 of all time greats. I am not sure you need to go much farther then that...
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