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Just now, w87r said:
Where you at?
We need some new news, so we can stop talking about Flacco over here.
I'm done with Flacco posts. I said that ten times, but keep getting replies, and can't resist answering. goodnight.
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9 minutes ago, GoColts8818 said:
I object less to you not being excited about the signing, you are entitled to like or not like any signing you want. It was more you thinking signing Flacco to mentor Richardson was such a radical unprecedented idea even though it happens to just about every rookie QB in the NFL.
Not at all. But my position is just that we really don't know that was the driving force behind the signing. I am not sold (that the mentor aspect) was the case. All players are different. Perhaps Minshew is a better mentor than Flacco? We really dont know their personalities? Or teaching skills? I only know what I see them do on the field. I think Ballard's signing of Flacco had more to do with what Joe did in the final 4 games in Cleveland, than any tutoring (of Richardson) he may bring to the table. Perhaps you are right? Perhaps I am? or maybe a little of both?
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Just now, GoColts8818 said:
Maybe he will. I have nothing against Sam. If it works out for him good for him. I just don’t think Sam not getting a chance to be the true number two is the end of the world.
Certainly not the end of the world. But I really shouldn't be getting crucified for simply not being wild about the Flacco signing?
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5 minutes ago, GoColts8818 said:
So? There are thousands of players with stories similar to Sam. Fair or not Sam got his chance vs the Commanders, Pats, and Texans and it wasn’t enough to make the Colts think he could be a number two. Like they say when you get a chance in the NFL you have to take advantage of it because you might not get another. Sam didn’t. Maybe that’s unfair but that’s the NFL.
I would think he will eventually get another chance. Probably not with Indy, but with another team. He will be older and have more experience. May turn out to be a fine QB perhaps? He seems to have the character and moxxy? Lacking some in the physical areas
1 minute ago, RollerColt said:I think he’s always going to be a PJ Walker type of guy for us until some other team takes a chance with him.
Right. I just made a similar comment above
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Just now, MikeCurtis said:
I understand what you are saying but the coaches see Sam in preseason and can make better judgements on him than the fans
Yeah. I get what you are saying... But really the only way to see if a guy can play, is to let him play.
It's all just judgement. Even the Colts staff and FO don't really know, outside of practice, since he hasn't played in a meaningful game, excluding preseason (where he usually excels) and when he was thrown out there with a terrible line.
Oh well, it is what it is, Have to hope AR can stay healthy (and not suck) or if he does... Hope Flacco can come in and look like he did in those few Browns games at the end of last season.
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Just now, MikeCurtis said:
IMHO use a 5th on Milton
He would be QB2 in 1-2 years
I see Milton going lower. But that's who I want us to take. I thought maybe if we didnt sign a vet? Just don't know if they do it now? But right, cut Sam and pick Milton.
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8 minutes ago, RollerColt said:
Is it unfair? Yes. But look, it’s now 2024. He’s been with the team and even though we don’t see his work, the rest of the team does. The coaching staff and Ballard know who Sam is. And for them he’s a QB3. Sorry.
Right. Sam got thrown out there (by Irsay?) vs NE. the team was a mess. then Saturday came in and went back to Ryan.
Steichen come over and the new staff and Ballard wasn't confident enough in Sam to give him the job. So they paid Minshew, and again Sam never got a chance. Now Flacco is here and it's another repeat. Sam will be out of Indy, maybe this year?
I just would have liked to see him get a chance, with a good team, and all the starters playing. I'm not saying I'm convinced he would be good? But I also not convinced, he would'nt be
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Just now, RollerColt said:
That chance was basically over after the Patriots game in 2022.
That is a terrible game to blame on Ehlinger. Probably, the worst blocking performance in the Colts history. Perhaps even in the leagues history? Reichs coaching was atrocious. Bill Belichick made our coaching and line look like fools. No QB could have played well under those conditions.
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Just now, Patrick Miller said:
Maybe Sam gets cut? Do you think the colts
keep
him around or
maybe draft another qb ?
It's quite possible
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Just now, csmopar said:
Okay and?
Well. I was just saying, I would have liked for Sam to have gotten a chance. And if he stunk, then go with the rookie QB, or vice versa. The Flacco signing is the same thing again. Like Minshew was.
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Just now, csmopar said:
No, he won’t. He was active every game day last year even as the 3rd QB. It’ll be the same this year
Which really is no better than just cutting him. Unless both AR and Flacco go down? Sam will go through, another year on the bench
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Just now, GoColts8818 said:
Would you have paid Minshew $25 million over two years to back up Richardson because that’s what it would have cost? That’s also if you can get past the Raiders can offer him a chance to compete to start and the Colts can’t.
I did not want GM back, even at a low cost. Thats the reason I did not like the Flacco signing. I was hoping we would acquire or draft a mobile, athletic, QB similar qualities to Richardson. and would like to see what Sam could have done if called upon.
Now Sam will either be cut, Or entrenched on the taxi squad.
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3 minutes ago, GoColts8818 said:
Because he’s won a Super Bowl, has a wealth of NFL experience, and won’t need to take practice reps from Richardson who badly needs them after last year. Again, this is not rocket science. He fits the very mold of putting a vet QB behind a young QB to help teach them. Teams have done this for decades. This is nothing new.
Do you know for sure that Flacco is some brilliant teacher of QBs? Is that something you heard? He has a special quality to work with young players? Like I said, perhaps that's not the type of person he is? Maybe he is a great teacher? Or maybe hes just a dumb jock?
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6 minutes ago, GoColts8818 said:
Because Richardson is the starter…
There is no other logical reason to sign him. Also do you really think Ballard didn’t factor all that in before signing him? This isn’t rocket science.
So Ballard's biggest concern for the backup is coaching along Richardson?
What make Flacco a better coach than any other veteran QB. Do you know that Flacco has some certain credentials that make him one of top outstanding teachers among quarterbacks?
The more logical reason would be, what many here are saying. He played well in the final 5 games for the Browns
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Just now, csmopar said:
I’m okay with Flacco. Not because of what will happen if he needs to play. If he has to play, we’re screwed.
however, I like the Flacco signing for three reasons:
number 1: no Justin fields trade. Thank freaking God. Fields is a bust, has always been a bust. And would create an unbelievable uncomfortable QB room.
number 2: his long history in the league means he knows how to avoiding injury and keeping his body in a condition to keep playing. Something AR has to learn.
number 3: Flacco has won a lot in the league over the years. He’s seen a ton of different defenses including a couple of the best ever that the Ravens had. He can help mentor ARs field awareness, hopefully.
but yea, if he has to play, yikes.
It's almost a certainty he will play. The odds of any QB making it through 17 games is very slim. Especially AR who is reckless and appears to injure easily
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2 minutes ago, GoColts8818 said:
I saw he and another player who is also hurt are having one in April.
Or perhaps he won’t play and just mentor Richardson which is the main goal of this signing.
How do you know the goal of the signing was for Flacco to mainly be a mentor? Every team needs a backup QB. It's obvious he was brought in to play if needed. If he can provide some help in the QB room thats fine. But they didnt pay Joe 9million to be a coach. They have plenty of coaches for that. Perhaps Flacco isnt even the type of QB who helps along the younger QBs? Maybe he keeps to himself? and just earns his pay on the field?
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Just now, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:
You realize those are designed for AR. Minshew had a habit of freaking out when there was no pressure.
Look. I get most here are happy with the Flacco signing. I am not. He is 40 years old and immobile.
We will be facing many of the leagues top DE/Edge rushers. Our line did ok at times. and they stunk at times. Remember Raiman getting bullrushed over. or the countless times Blake Freeland looked like the human turnstile. We still have assignment trouble with stunts, blitzes etc.
Our offense, with the current line, needs a QB that can move.
It's pointless for me to keep trying to defend my opinion, since the entire forum is enamored with Joe.
So I'm done. We will just have to wait and see.
Perhaps Joe will be outstanding? Or perhaps, after this stint with the Colts, he will be joining Matt Ryan, in the press box, come 2025?
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2 minutes ago, Jackie Daytona said:
Where's this "trouble keeping a clean pocket" coming from? 2022?
Both AR and Minchew were always rolling out or scrambling last year. At least GM could move a little.
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4 minutes ago, Indyfan4life said:
Not gonna argue anymore.
Me too I'm done arguing.
Don't have time to watch the video. But I bet it does not show the 2 pick sixes in the 14-45 playoff blowout?
You (and it seems everyone else here) love the Joe Flacco signing.
I do not. We are all entitled to our opinions. Should Flacco be called upon in 2024, (which I believe is a very high probability) I hope you are all right. And since he is now a Colt I will be rooting for him to succeed.
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Just now, Indyfan4life said:
Flacco is a Super Bowl-winning QB that can still outperform several starters currently. Dude has a ton of knowledge and can easily teach AR several things. He wasn’t brought here to be the damn starter. He’s a backup and there isn’t a better backup in the league right now. Again… STOP BEING SO NEGATIVE.
He's been around for like 20 years. I know what Joe Flacco brings. An old QB who needs a clean pocket. Something the Colts have a very hard time providing. Before Cleveland acquired grabbed him in desperation nobody even wanted him. And sorry, this forum is not only for positive feelings and Colts cheerleaders,
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4 minutes ago, Lifetime Colt said:
Um, Matt Ryan was to be the starter, not the same thing here.
Which was a terrible mistake in itself
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1 minute ago, Patrick Miller said:
Well, at least he’s not penciled in as a starter, right? He’s just insurance in case Richardson goes down. pretty damn good insurance I think.
we will see
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14 minutes ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:
Our Oline was good last season. What are you talking about.
Salary cap keep going down with no secondary help yet.
Our o-line rarely keeps a clean pocket.
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No different than Matt Ryan
Colts offseason discussion / Ballard Grievances (merge)
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Thanks. Just to follow up on your post,..
I disagree with your forgone conclusion that everyone knows Sam not an NLF QB.
As a matter of fact, Sam is indeed an NFL QB. And probably will be for some time forward.
I would like to be stoked too. But am having a bit of trouble with that, seeing as our FO is once again re-signing all the same players we've had for the past few years, and It's hard for me to see us improving, without making any changes to fill the holes.
I know it is still early, but up to this point, it's looking like another repeat of 2023... (or maybe worse?) While watching all three of our division rivals improve their rosters significantly.
However, I do believe we still have a bit of cap space? and perhaps another signing or two should be coming down the pike?
And of course the draft is super important for this teams success in 2024. Just hoping the FO can make the most of these opportunities.
What I like about this forum is the freedom to talk, whether positive or negative, about all aspects of the Colts franchise.
But as for the joyful vibe... My vibe is always dictated by the teams performance, and the FO making the right moves and decisions.
And you are right... We do deserve it.,