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3 hours ago, w87r said:
QB:
Williams
Daniels
Maye
McCarthy
WR:
Harrison
Odunze
Nabers
TE:
Bowers
OT:
Alt
Fuaga
Latham
Fashanu
Fautanu
DL:
Latu
Turner
Verse
Newton
Murphy
CB:
Mitchell
Wiggins
Arnold
Replace Arnold with Brian thomas jr and I'll agree
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27 minutes ago, ClaytonColt said:
Pick a player with long arms and a high RAS score
They need to pick a player who can play now instead of always banking on potential particularly at cb and wr
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45 minutes ago, Indeee said:
I'm going to respectfully disagree here. I think, regardless of what the fans might think, their lack of FAs and re-signing all our own means the Colts believe this team is truly capable of making waves in 2024, being only 1 play away from a playoff birth/division title.
I think they believe that they are a couple pieces away but clearly need a top skill position wideout to pair with Pittman and Downs. Every pick after that is fillers, depth, and/or less important needs in their minds.
You could wind up being correct but I'm sticking with my trade up scenario where the only way I'm wrong is that we find out later, the Colts could not find a trade partner or that the trade partners really wanted to much in compensation.
I'm sticking with Colts trade to with Chargers and take Nabers at pick 5.
I don't think we trade up either. I can see us trading back to acquire another 2nd and then going wr cb lb or edge in no particular order
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12 hours ago, DattMavis said:
I was very high on BTJ early, but he terrifies me the more I watch him. Crazy potential, but is a one trick pony, and you have to be certain you can develop him.
I would prefer Adonai at this point, but he absolutely takes plays off during runs or if he doesn't think he's getting the ball. I don't think Ballard will think he matches the culture.
Btj is a more polished Alec pierce.
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12 hours ago, Zoltan said:
I would really like us to sign Cooper, I don't have confidence in Franklin and Speeds ability to cover which Cooper is a true 3 down LB while Franklin and Speed should be off the field on 3rd downs
Depends on his ras score
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15 hours ago, Moosejawcolt said:
U r intent on building a team with an offense but having a defense that has no talent. Welcome to Manning 2.0
No intent on building offense first then fixing the d next year. We have talent on defense. Three of which were hurt most the year in the secondary we will can still find zone corners in the second third 4th 5th 6th 7th. Heck our best ones are undrafted and 7th rounder and our 5th rounder didn't make the team. Our second rounder was hurt. Given Ballard's tendency to draft the wrong corner early see quincy wilson, rock ya sin I rather not draft another bust at corner in the first.
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1 hour ago, holeymoley99 said:
I think we stay at 15, hope Bowers is there but dont think he will be. With latest update not encouraging that Flowers will be ready seems like Corner more likely to be taken over WR. First round corner paired with Brents with Jones first corner off the bench should yield better results then last season.
ttps://www.aol.com/cb-dallis-flowers-rehabbing-achilles-084056300.htm
We could go corner in the 2nd and get the same quality as the first as we run a zone scheme. Plus let's not forget flowers is an undrafted guy.
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2 minutes ago, Dobbinblitz said:
SportsBetting. listed their betting odds for which positions are most likely to be selected by each of the 32 NFL teams in the first round next Thursday. So, what do they think is most likely to happen for the Colts?
Cornerback: +120
Wide Receiver: +250
Tight End: +275
Defensive Line/Edge: +700
If we draft a 4.5 corner in the first Houston will win the division
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18 minutes ago, Moosejawcolt said:
Lol. U strengthen the defense. U limit the opposing team scoring points. In turn there is less pressure on Richardson to score 30 points every game. U keep the score down , and u have more plays on offense. If u r playing catch up, you are passing more and leaving your qb up for more hits and injury. A strong defense allows u to control the game as u can run more and become less predictable in your play calling
Again the league is built for offense. No defense is going to have as big an effect as a good offense
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5 hours ago, Moosejawcolt said:
Exactly, but u can not find a franchise Dend or corner in free agency. U have to draft one. U can sprinkle in wr talent. That is my belief.
Harrison and Wayne were first round picks
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I picked trade back
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2 hours ago, Moosejawcolt said:
Oh sorry. I thought u meant it would be an offense driven draft for Indy. I agree with u about it being an offense rich draft. That is why we use our 1st 2 picks on D
If we use our first two picks on d we are failing Richardson
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50 minutes ago, Moosejawcolt said:
Houston went number 2 last year and traded up to 3 to get their franchise rush end . They didn't trade up to get Stroud a weapon. They traded because they wanted to become a complete team. Houston runs a defence similar to Indy. They know u need to have that front 4 to make Ryans defence successful.
They were active in free agency and the draft to add weapons for stroud.
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43 minutes ago, Moosejawcolt said:
I don't disagree with u about surrounding him talent. My argument that there is far more talent on the offensive side of the ball then the defense when u consider the lines and skill positions.
Also the reason you go wr is to make sure you have the right qb. If he stinks with an star cast of offensive weapons then you know you need another qb
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33 minutes ago, Moosejawcolt said:
I don't disagree with u about surrounding him talent. My argument that there is far more talent on the offensive side of the ball then the defense when u consider the lines and skill positions.
It is about who will have a greater impact. Cj stroud is surrounded by more talent on offense than Richardson currently. We need to close the gap. Zone corners will be there in the second. If we go wr in the second all the best ones will be gone and we may be stuck with another Alec pierce
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3 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:
I made my call to Ballard. I told him we should take a Guard at 15. He asks why, I said just pee everyone off in here. He said well do 2006.
Imagine how much the forum would riot if turner, nabors, and Mitchell were all there at 15 and we picked a guard lol
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6 hours ago, Moosejawcolt said:
Diggs is a number 2 this time in his career. My point rookie or not, this cream cannot head into next year without a playmaker in the secondary.
More scheme than talent. Cbs deep to play closer
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40 minutes ago, Moosejawcolt said:
Texans added Diggs. They have Tell and Collins. That last game of the season highlighted thr need for a pass rush and corner play. Now more so with Diggs. Jags also have also added Ridley. If the Colts go into the season with this secondary, they will get what they deserve.
No rookie is stopping diggs and ridley is with titans
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1 hour ago, Superman said:
There's a lot of analysis to be done here, IMO. I don't know all the answers, but some questions that should be addressed are what's the difference between the success rate of a first round pick and that of a second/third round pick, historically? How do you value that difference? I think I've seen stats that say first rounders are starters at a higher rate than other rounds, but is that influenced by the bias of the team that drafted the player in the first round? (Probably.) It's probably fair to say that the players taken in the first round are more likely to be difference makers than the players taken later, but I think there are position groups where the difference is negligible, and I think WR is one of them.
And then, if you get into a climate where everyone is selling in the first round, then the value probably flips at some point.
Also, I don't necessarily think of the draft as a crap shoot. Yes, it's arbitrary, but I think some front offices are good at drafting, and some are bad at drafting; but the difference isn't as wide as general perception would indicate. And there are lots of dependent variables -- coaching, health, etc. -- that influence the outcome of each pick.
I do think more picks is the way to go to maximize value. But to build the best roster? That's a different arm of the discussion. Like you said later on, we've been trading down, and we don't have a great roster.
You also make a good point about the rookie contract vs trading for an established player, and that's not to be ignored. But my point is that if you're going to base your appetite for risk on your level of conviction in the player, I'd rather take the big swing on the established player than on a draft prospect, despite the difference in contract status. The ideal mix is to target a second or third year WR so you can at least get some of the rookie contract. Ballard reportedly asked for Jaylen Waddle and Christian Watson last year.
Given that we know that Ballard is looking for a speedy wr to pair with Richardson. Worthy is the fastest but it says in his scouting report that he takes plays off when he doesn't get the ball. As for Adonai and Legette are they better than pierce? I feel pretty good about the top 4 being better than pierce. Nabers. Harrison, and Odunze would easily be the best wr on our roster. Brian thomas jr would also work wonders with Richardson arm.
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1 hour ago, Dobbinblitz said:
I know most are focused on the first round pick, but is anyone else concerned that we come out of this draft with a quality outside coverage linebacker. This is not a great draft for LB's. I think this is an enormous need for the Colts defense.
If it is not there can't force it
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1 hour ago, Moosejawcolt said:
They r never trading up for Nabers or any receiver.
If they want to beat the Texans they will
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8 hours ago, MikeCurtis said:
Aiyuk is awesome, but I am wondering if we would have so much of our cash tied to one position (WR)
I like aiyuk but feel he is more a wr 2
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21 hours ago, Dobbinblitz said:
Yep it’s a good debate for sure. I just hate seeing the run game stifled in part due to a lack of a deep threat. And, this coming from a guy who loves defense first.
The other thing to consider let's say we draft the best cb on the Board. Gusts Bradley is probably playing them 10 yards off the wr and they will be making tackles after the catch for a first down so unless Bradley has a change in defensive philosophy I don't see the point in going cb high.
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7 hours ago, Yoshinator said:
I actually think the 1st round is the only round where EDGE wouldn't be a reach. I see the class as much weaker throughout the draft as it goes on. Kneeland would be a great get in the 2nd if he fell, but that'd be a huge risk if we wanted an EDGE. We'll see where Ballard has his big board ranked. I think Quinyon Mitchell would be the dream pick, but the draft is deep at CB as well.
Just remember, Paye and Dayo are FAs at the end of the season, so we could definitely take a successor to one of them.
The go edge next year. Get Richardson some legit play makers that match his arm talent.
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Colts have the 15th pick in the draft. (MERGE)
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Sure alot can get a 1000 yards, but what makes wrs elite are the ones who score alot and catch first downs. Colts don't have a wr on the roster that scores alot. Pittman is a wr 2 in my opinion. Pierce a wr 4 with wr 2 potential. Downs wr 2/3. Neither one of those guys are marvin Harrison or Reggie Wayne. None of our safeties are Bob sanders. None of our edge rushers are freeney or Mathis. No Nick harpers, Kelvin Hayden, marlin Jackson, or vontaome Davis at cb So we can stand to improve at wr, s, pass rush,and cb. We have alot of solid guys sprinkled across the roster but very few I'd consider elite. Buckner, Nelson, and a healthy Taylor are among the elite. That is why I'm hoping for a game changing player in the first round. Most rookie corners aren't that.