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The Roof is only open when it's NICE outside. Those Open-Roof Games will disappear later in the Season. I doubt we'll have the Roof open in 60 Degree & Below Weather. That's not a Good thing. And I'm sure the Fans wouldn't appreciate Freezing when they don't have to. Chuck being here has no impact on that. Mother Nature determines if the Roof is opened or closed
No, they began with a general rule that, between 50-80, it would be open. And you might remember we had a few games in the low 50's where it was open, but Polian began cutting into it. If you keep it open to 50, as was the original plan, most years, 4-5 home games would be played outdoors. The average Indianapolis temperature for Thanksgiving is about 50.
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I'm not sure we're still a dome team. We've only played one of four home games indoors, and with Polian gone and Chuck in, we may only play 3-4 home games a year with the roof closed.
Also, looking at the other indoor teams - Minnesota and Houston run the ball. Atlanta has been a solid running team. Arizona is attempting to play Steeler football. So, you can play any style you want indoors.
Polian is out, Chuck is in. Judging by everything that's been said pubicly, we're not headed toward an aerial circus. Depending upon the situation and opponent, will they play up-tempo, no huddle at times? Yes, but that won't be their identity.
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Pagano and Arians have repeatedly suggested the Steelers/Ravens-type model is what they are striving toward. If the 49ers fall under this category, then yes, that's what they are shooting for.
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We don't know the exact breakdown but it sure does paint a picture that Luck is still getting used to playing under pressure.
Pressure is relative. There's pressure, then there's pressure.
When I look at Luck's performance to date, it's complicated. With the poor protection, lack of running game and inexperienced skilled players, you have to give him the benefit of the doubt. And on average, I haven't seen many receivers running wide open. Even a high percentage of his passes to Reggie have seemingly gone into tight coverage. That said, on some of the few occasions he has had wide open receivers, he's overthrown them. So, it's complicated. We won't have a full picture to judge him on for quite some time - certainly not in 2012. But consindering the quality of team he stepped into, an organization in full overhaul, I'm not sure you can complain about 3-3. At least we're still relevant and have something to talk about. At 1-5, we're talking free agency and the draft.
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I understand that people have high standards for him.... and they should. Peyton Manning was sent packing for him.
Luck's a grown man. He can take it.
That said, I was fine with his play today.
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We just lost 35-9 to the Jets last week, and the Jets are hardly a dominant team. How could you complain about any type of win from this team? I'm not sure what people are expecting. 2012 is a rookie QB stepping into a 2-14 team.
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Through six games, the kick and punt coverage units have given up no TDs and no big returns. Over the past 14 years, could you have said that once during a six game stretch? The longest retun of the year was a 50 yarder, from 7 yards deep to the Minnesota 43. Outside of that, the longest kick return is 35 yards. The longest punt return is 23 yards.
Now, we haven't had any big returns ourselves, but for a team that is used to losing the special teams battle weekly, it's a major improvement.
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We won. I don't care how we did.
At this point in our development, a win is a win is a win.
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Best DB on the roster.
At $125 million over the 30 year life of the stadium, the roof is making about 4.2 million a year.
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Outside of Luck's fumble and missing the opportunity to put it away on that drive, they played it pretty well. The game could have gone either way, but I'll take it(thank you, open roof).
Quite honestly, I didn't expect this team to be .500 at this point.
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The open roof saves the day. With a closed roof, we are 2-4.
No more complaining.
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I doubt there will be any shadows. By now, with the October angle of the sun, 90% of the field should be shaded.
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I'm not sure the Jets still have a good defense. They're in the bottom half of the league, and before us, they were even lower.
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If he continues to throw 50 times a game then he will finish with more interceptions. He has had several dropped interceptions or interceptions called back on penalties. It's time to simplify the playbook not just for Luck, but for the rest of the offense. Let's try to get some short passes and get Luck and the offense in some sort of rhythm before we try to go deep so much.
I agree. It depends upon the opponent and situation obviously, but, generally, they should play as they did vs. Minnesota. I would choose a few drives a game to play aggressively, up-tempo, but the other 80% of the time I would simplify it and give Luck as many easy completions as possible. Arians should break out some film of early Brady. The Patriots, through play calling, made it as easy on Brady as they could, while taking an occasional shot, and it worked.
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I don't know, but they can only be competitive if he cuts down on the turnovers. He's lost some fumbles too. In his two turnover-fests, they weren't even competitive. In their two wins, he had 5 TDs(1 rushing), 1 INT, no fumbles.
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I believe in the last couple of games we have missed a beat by not giving the RBs a chance to make a play.
I've been thinking about this a lot since Sunday. Considering his first NFL pass went for a 60 yard TD on a dumpoff, and considering the type of pressure he's been under, you would think he would be looking for the backs more. Brown dropped a few balls vs. the Bears, and we haven't seen much of it since. He certainly could use more easy completions.
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Am I missing something on Freeney right now or something?........
Who said he is out?
Ah, that's just a minor discrepency. No reason to ruin the thread over it.
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I would have a hard time giving Luck a passing grade. As porous as the run defense was, if he connects, hitting open receivers, and doesn't turn the ball over, it's a tight game.
Misses Fleener for TD: +4 points
INT in own territory: -7 points
INT in end zone: +7 points
Fumble in Colts territory: -7 points
That's +11 for the Colts, -14 for the Jets. If you factor in other missed opportunities and overthrows/underthrows, the game could have gone in a different direction.
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Except for QB, I'd say they're more talented than us.
That's nothing new. That should be the epitaph on Manning's tombstone.
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Couple of quick points... neither is too big a deal... but wanted them on the record...
In his first year in college, Luck completed 56% of his passes, not 50%... he jumped to 70+% in both his 2nd and 3rd years.
Big jumps. I expect a good jump next year. And another good jump his 3rd year.
The other point is this.... while we're now picking apart Luck's flaws -- and he's got them -- let's not forget that a week ago some here were saying they wouldn't trade Luck for any other QB.
Welcome to the world of being a fan, where we are all Prisoners of the Moment. (Props to Jules, who I think first used this phrase after the loss to J'Ville)
We do good, and some here are talking playoffs. We do poorly and we're down in the dumps.
I've tried to preach patience and to not get too high with the wins or too low with the losses.
With such a young, inexperienced, and frankly, not very talented team, there are going to be some wild swings of performance.
I think someone on one thread today referred to it as the roller coaster ride.
Yup! That's it. So, buckle up, because it's going to be that way for the entire year....
Oh.... and suddenly, there's no more Bruce Arians will get a Head Coaching job next year talk.....
Just sayin.... :cool:
I think you're right, New Colts Fan. After yesterday's performance, I went back and watched his junior and senior years at Stanford. I saw nothing resembling the type of inaccuracy we've seen so far in the regular season. He was consistently putting it on his receivers hands and leading his receivers. So, I think it all comes down to repetition and his comfort level. This is a new offense, new team, new receivers... Next year, or the year after, when it's second nature, when he's protected, the accuracy will improve.
That said, I'm not convinced he will ever play a Manning, Brees, Brady-type of game, so the team needs to be built accordingly. He's more of a gutty type of playmaker. I see more Roethlisberger, Eli and Rivers in him than I do ruthless efficiency.
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That's my point though, I think he's already trying to play a turnover free game. I don't disagree he needs to do a better job of it but I don't think that's out of the norm of a normal week.
I'm sure you recognize the difference between high risk and low risk QB play. You lower the risk of turning the ball over with your decision making, play calling and how you attack the game. The first step is safer play calling - see Minnesota game. The second step is a mindset and concerted effort on Luck's part, knowing he doesn't have to save the day or carry the team to beat Cleveland. When you're playing New England or are down 14 points, you're forced to play a higher risk game. Against Cleveland, that shouldn't be necessary.
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My point was this: if you don't make mistakes, this is a winnable game. Rookies are often instructed to just not do anything to lose the game. Against Cleveland, Luck needs to follow this adage. His #1 priority should be playing a safe, turnover free game. Just don't lose it. But your mindset depends upon the opponent, right? Against New England, you couldn't play in this manner.
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I think they try to play every game turnover free so that's really saying much.
They're failing.
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I would play it like the Minnesota game - try to play a safe, turnover free, lower-possession game and get to .500 with a W. A 16-13 win will do.
Luck's #1 goal should be putting in a turnover free performance.
In the future I can see us being like the 49ers.
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Well, with any precipitation, it's closed. The stadium has no drainage. And the wind is regulated by keeping the window open or shut.
Irsay wanted a football-only stadium. That's why he ponied-up $125 million for the retractable roof. They did look into building a football-only stadium and refurbishing the RCA Dome, but settled on this compromise.