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The 2nd INT was a bad, low throw. Had he led him, it was an easy TD. I'm not sure what the first one was. It was 3rd and long and no one was open, but he threw it anyway. It's the NFL; receivers aren't always open. Get rid of the ball and punt.
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To make a "Peyton Who" post after two quarters of a preseason game against one of the worst teams in football shows me the thread's creator hasn't been following the NFL for long.
The last thing any new Luck/Colt fan should do, if that fan has any sense, is compare Luck to Manning or disparage Manning in any way. That is a losing battle, I assure you. Luck, himself, would call you dumb for doing it.
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Believe it or not, I do actually have a replica of the famous Pulp Fiction wallet... sad I know!
I'm the foot f'n master!
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Whether Luck is as good as Manning or not, he can, in the end, be as successful if a better team is built around him. This is where people need to alter their thinking. Roethlisberger, Eli and other Super Bowl winning QBs are inferior to Peyton as well. Few are Peyton Manning. But, if you start with a very good QB like Luck, and build a complete team around him, you might be better off in the end... better off than you were under the Polian model.
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I agree with you except I want to be realistic. We have ONE proven WR, one decent veteran and a bunch of guys who have a lot to prove. Yes, more talent than he had in college, but probably less (proven) talent than most NFL teams.
I agree.
Again, people look at this situation and think Manning could light it up with these receivers... and he could... so, they believe Luck will as well. Not so fast. Luck is a great talent and has the potential to be a winning QB in this league, but until he proves otherwise, he's not Peyton Manning. Not many people are.
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Let'st have a great team for once.
Great team, great coaching... very good QB.
I'll take it.
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Top 20 defense. Top 20 rushing.
You know you're a Colt fan when that qualifies as a bold prediction. :yes:
And I'm not saying it doesn't.
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BTW, a poster on another site came up with a fitting term for the rebuilding process: we're not rebuilding, we're depolianizing. We're going through depolianization.
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Simply for the purpose of antagonizing:
While it's fair to look at the totality of a resume, you also need to see which way it's trending.
Obviously.
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Absolutely not. Aside from drafting Manning, his Indianapolis record is a borderline failure. Outside of anything Manning could control - the passing game - the Colts were at, or near, the bottom of the league in every aspect of the game during his 14 years. Luckily for him, though, he came in, and went out, with Manning, so some will always attribute whatever success the Colts had to him.
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We maybe even underachieved in the Polian era.
I'm not sure they underachieved. Yes, by failing to build a balanced team, they wasted much of the career of the greatest QB I've ever seen, but I'm not sure they underachieved. When they lost, most of the time they lost to a superior, more complete team.
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You're right, I should quit responding to small posts of jealousy and bitterness. My apologies.
I honestly couldn't imagine any Colt fan being jealous of the Texans. Yes, you got a division title in a down year for the Colts. Congratulations, but it takes quite a bit more than that to engender feelings of jealousy and bitterness.
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It's not Luck, it's the team around him which makes this difficult, perhaps impossible. If he were walking into a Roethlisberger or Flacco type situation, then yes, he could potentially win 9-10 games. If this were a balanced, well built team, he could go somewhere as a rookie. It's not. After last season you would think they would, but I still don't get the impression people realize how difficult it is to win with a team like this. You could put any number of upper level veteran QBs from around the league on this team and they wouldn't win more than 5-6 games. Manning was a freak. The way Manning could control and affect every aspect of the game... The guy was a freak. Don't expect a sequel. Just hope, within a few years, this team is built the right way, and Luck is able to succeed.
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Brian... I am a big fan of your posts and I like your blog, but I have to respectfully disagree with your general premise about profanity. I don't know whether or not it helps in the weight room, but "colorful language" is not innately profane. They are all just words that have been deemed improper by the most uptight among us for arbitrary reasons.
Personally, I don't care about the profanity, but your argument seems a bit flawed. For instance, you could say the same about proper grammar. Why is one word arbitrarily accepted and used over another? What was once, 100 years ago, considered proper is now improper. What is, today, proper will be considered improper 100 years from now. So, why strive for good diction? As with profanity, you have ever-evolving social norms and rules. You have social norms and rules for everything.
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And Grigson needs to Stop acting like he's gonna have a DREAM Team his 1st Year here.
That's good advice for the fans. Patience.
That said, Grigson, as GM, should never stop attempting to improve the team. The previous administration became lazy over time. Manning, his iron man streak, and the system allowed them to become lazy.
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He is relating things he did with the Patriots because they do things the right way,
Polian and his freeloading son are gone, so hopefully the Colts will begin doing things the right way as well. As long as things are done the right way in terms of team-building and scheme, Irsay can tweet all he wants..
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Yards per carry doesn't determine whether a team is good at running the ball or not, not by itself.
What does?
You might be able to make that argument if the Colts were a power running team, which they weren't... if they could run the ball when they needed to, which they couldn't.
Calling the run game "substandard" is crazy talk.No, ignoring facts is crazy talk.
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This is not true, especially the bolded.. The majority of Polian's tenure, we were a very good running team.
I suspect we differ on the definition of "very good." During Polian's tenure, the Colts averaged 3.9 YPC, placing them near the bottom of the league over that period. They averaged 4.0 YPC, or more, only 6 times in 14 years. "Substandard" was probably a bit generous.
Face it, outside of anything Manning could control, the Colts were near the bottom of the league in practically every aspect of the game during Polian's reign.
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So the answer to my question is yes. ;)
How about we go with Jim Irsay's perspective:
Polian's draftees include Edgerrin James, Joseph Addai, Reggie Wayne, Pierre Garcon, Austin Collie, Dwight Freeney, Robert Mathis, Bob Sanders, Antoine Bethea, Marlin Jackson, Dallas Clark. Polian signed free agents in Jeff Saturday, Mike Vanderjagt, Dominic Rhodes, Gary Brackett.
In 14 years, I'd hope you could pick out a few names he hit on. You can with every GM. Here's the problem: look at the team as a whole. For the majority of Polian's tenure, the defense and special teams were abysmal while the running game was substandard. Few QBs in the history of the game could have won with those teams.
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But he built a team that made the playoffs in what....10-11 consecutive years...
With 10 wins or more every year....
Peyton didnt play defense
Neither did most of the defensive players Polian drafted.
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We would have rekindled our interest in Orton. In Week 6, we knew our quarterback situation wasn't great, but after a couple more weeks, we realized the situation was bad.
When did it hit you, Bill, that your entire team, outside of your freakish HOF QB, was pathetically weak?
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to me this makes freeney and mathis more dangerous because now when coaches are scheming against them, they cant say alright freeney is gonna line up here so this is where we are gonna focus our protection. they cant do that now because freeney and mathis are gonna come from all over the place and thats gonna cause a lot of trouble for the opposition
Imagine that, winning a game with scheme and play calling instead of just lining up and doing what we do.
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Check it out, a mercenary trollin' for the Patriots. It's ok, I'd be bitter too if Manning spanked my team for over a decade.
The Texans were a joke for ten years, so let him live it up a little. He only has about a two year window to do so.
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Really? The greatest quarterback I've ever seen went 11-5 and won the Super Bowl his first starting season.
Roger Staubach wasn't bad.
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And overall, watching this team, you don't have the nervous sense that if one mistake is made or if the offense goes 3 and out, the game is over. It's like watching a real football team - running game, respectable defense, special teams. Amazing.