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42 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:
Lakers lost but Lonzo Ball had a TDB with 11-11-11 across the boards. I didn't watch it but a TDB is solid, it's not Jimmer numbers though
No sarcasm needed. It's not on the same level as Jimmer, who averaged 18 points a game in his first summer league
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3 hours ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:
Not really, he shot 40% from 3 in college. It wouldn't shock me at all if next game he shoots 6-10 from 3. He just had an off night and it's the Summer League. Jason Kidd struggled a lot from 3 and he was still an all-time great player because he was a great playmaker.
Jason Kidd was a freak athlete who developed a shot as his athleticism declined. I also saw Paul George, Kawhi Leonard and Jimmy Butler mentioned, also all freak athletes, but all three developed their shot while still in their athletic primes. All of them are terrible comparisons to Lonzo.
Lonzo is a sub par athlete, with a perceived elite skill, his passing. A much better comparison is Jimmer Fredette, elite skill, his shooting, with sub par athleticism.
Lonzo also has one of the hardest shooting motions to fix. It's a very slow release with a hitch halfway through. Worst of all, it was successful until he reached the NBA.
Honestly, the media narrative for this NBA draft reminds me so much of the Luck vs RGIII narrative. Where you have one prospect so much better than the rest, that they just glossed over all the weaknesses of the 2nd to make it seem like at least a close competition. With De'Aaron Fox or Donovan Mitchell playing the Kirk Cousins role of overlooked prospect that is much better than the 2nd pick.
Speaking of comparisons to Luck, I dont know if you want to call it personality or leadership, but De'Aaron Fox is incredibly similar. He expects big things of his teammates, but when things goes south, he will always take the fault even if it doesnt belong to him. Compare that to Lavar Ball throwing his son's teammates under the bus for shortcomings that actually belong to his son. Obviously, Lonzo doesnt necessarily have to be like his dad
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1 hour ago, oldunclemark said:
How many great players are there in the NBA today?
There's LeBron and Kevin Durant and who else?
Maybe Nowitzki at the end of his career .....but I'm talking great
How are you going to say Durant and only a maybe for Nowitzki, when the two have the exact same skill set. How quickly people forget how freakish of an athlete Nowitzki was just a decade ago. He had the quickness to take guys off the dribble and the straight line speed to outrun most players on those Nash fastbreaks
And Nowitzki didnt have to join the greatest team ever to get his ring.
Kawahi, Curry and as much as i hate him, Draymond, need to be on the list of all time greats
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11 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:
If he agree'd to sign withus for at least 4 years I would give up 2 or 3 players for him. Everyone but Turner would be on the blocks. We need Turner to pair up with another Star, so I am keeping Turner.
This isnt a video game. You cant expect to give up your trash and get a star in return. Granted thats what happened in the Paul George trade, but thats the exception, not the rule
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4 hours ago, oldunclemark said:
What great players were drafted last year? None?
So you're lottery pick can be a total zero..or..most likely..an average player
Once players play in the NBA..you can evaluate them..then trade for them.
You know more about them, right?
How does one trade for a player when they have no assets?
According to the rumor mill, Giannis is leaving Milwaukee the first chance he gets. What could your team possibly give up to land him?
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1 hour ago, PrincetonTiger said:
That will be Lebron's legacy
LeBron's legacy is forcing the cavs to give Rich Paul's clients huge contracts. While the Warriors spent their money wisely and built a bench that could compete for a playoff spot in the East
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4 hours ago, dgambill said:
I agree with the part about what we got...there is still potential there....but how can you say Minnesota hasn't done well in the draft???? KAT, Wiggins, Rubio...Dunn and Lavine who were traded to land you Jimmy Butler. They moved Rubio to get space for Teague but those picks have worked out nicely. Honestly 6ers tank job was bad because they took longer because they drafted poorly at the top. Obviously that won't help you....also investing in 3 centers when it's a guard league doesn't make a lot of sense.
The sixers only had one bad draft. Taking Okafor. Hinkie, the GM, wanted Porzingis and the owner wanted Okafor.
And trading Noel for nothing, but at that point Colangelo took over as the gm. During last summer, the Sixers were being offered Marcus Smart for Noel. Before the trade deadline last year, the Sixers being offered the trade that landed DeMarcus Cousins in New Orleans, but for Okafor instead. In both cases, Colangelo got greedy and held out for more. Terrible GMs are going to be terrible. This is the same guy that drafted Andrea Bargnani and traded a first for an over the hill Jermaine O’Neal
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49 minutes ago, Colts_Fan12 said:
Good points the last part makes me sad lol
Cheer Up!! At least Boston got completely screwed
They traded away Fultz to Philadelphia to increase their assets in hopes of getting either Butler or George. The Bulls gave away Butler for pennies on the dollar and we know what just happened to George. So, now we have Boston sitting on a ton of young assets which are solid enough to get you to the playoffs, but not good enough to win you a championship. Essentially, just stuck in limbo for all eternity. Which in today's NBA is the worst place you can be.
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As long as we draft after the third pre-season game, I'm happy
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2 hours ago, dgambill said:
He is overpaid in terms of his overall game. That said 76ers are like us in the sense that they have to overpay to get free agents right now. Maybe in a couple more years they won't but now they do. That said in the new nba where Steph curry gets 40 million paying olidepo half isn't horrible. His salary won't look nearly as bad when the whole NBA gets on new cba numbers. Compared to an Avery Johnson at 10 mil yes he is overpaid...compared to dru holiday st 25-30 million no he isn't. His salary will fall in line as time goes on.
The 76ers didnt overpay to lure JJ. They overpaid so it would only be a 1 year deal. Theyre just trying to avoid being in the same situation Lakers are currently in, where you have to unload talent just to get Mozgov/Deng of the books.
The reason Olidepo's contract is so bad, is because its 4 years with 3 years left for a sub-par starter. You generally have to give up top talent or a draft pick to unload such an awful contract. Indy took the terrible contract and gave up their star player at the same time. I havent seen a team get fleeced like this since Billy King was running the Nets
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Of course I'm in.
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1. Keepers for next season? none
2. Individual Player Points for KO /RT yards? 1pts per 50? don't care
3. We already have 1 IR position, keep bench at 6, or 5? or 4? 6
4. Flex stay at WR/RB and WR/TE or change to WR/RB/TE? wr/rb/te
5. Playoff Seeding #6 vs #1 if applicable? fine as is
6. Time per draft pick change from 90 sec to 60 sec? 60 seconds
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I'm God Hates Jags and I will return
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He deserves it. He's a top 5 (arguably the top) middle linebacker
Top 5 defensive player. He's the best inside linebacker. The only ILB that comes close is Daryl Washington, unfortunately he's too busy getting drunk and beating the crap out of his baby mama to get on the field.
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Apologies for missing the draft. Last minute plans got in the way.
F*cking autodraft grabbed Peyton. wth!! Matt Ryan was still available too. My good luck Charm!!
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This off season went by so fast. Didnt even realize it was FF time again. I signed up with the link that was mailed to me
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And I'm not going to disprove any of your examples.
The Colts won, we're on our way to the AFC Championship game.
Our offense put up 24 points, and could've had 27. And it's Pep's smart shift in changing philosophy from an aggressive down the field attacking offense to a take what they give us, dump it to the RB's and TE's offense that has, in large part, gotten us there.
That's all I need to disprove.
I don't need to go play by play on you. The Colts won -- HELLO?!?
You don't like Pep. Good for you. Nothing anyone says is going to change your mind. You're entitled.
But I won't waste my time with someone who doesn't understand this and know football. I'm not defending Pep when his work defends itself plenty......
You're not just wrong, you're spectacularly wrong!
Good luck to you......
If I'm so spectacularly wrong, than it should be quite easy to disprove me. Show us your brilliance
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How does that not make sense to you? Of course it's an option, and it's a good one at that. Taking a field goal is always a solid option when it puts you ahead by 2 scores with 4 minutes left in the game. If anything, it was the right call. Better than passing for the endzone, risking an interception and giving manning the ball with 4 minutes and a one score deficit.
Manning was off target this game, but more times than not you end up paying for it if you settle fr a field goal against Manning. It was especially wrong when you consiuder that the colts could have an easy first down, if you adjust the play calling to what the deffense is offering you
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Sorry, but on a night when the Colts get one of their biggest and best wins in the history of the organization, why should I waste my time responding to you?? You're not going to change your view. If this win today doesn't change your view, then there aren't words available to me or anyone else to get you to see things differently.
You're entitled to your opinion. It's just spectacularly ignorant. You don't like Pep. Fine. You're entitled.
But don't expect anyone to take you seriously when you write the kind of nonsense you did.
I don't mind disagreeing with people, but your post was simply ridiculous. I assume you either know next to nothing about football. OK, but that's not my problem and it's not my job to educate you.
Good luck in the future.....
You still have not disproved any of my examples. You continue to insult me, because its your only option. And I'm the ignorant one that knows nothing about football?
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Thanks. I've yet to have a good laugh today, and you just provided me with one. A big one!
To be clear, it was unintentionally funny -- you were trying to be serious -- but sorry, it's just too funny for words....
Sorry you missed the game on TV today. It must have seemed terrible to listen to it on radio.....
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The offensive play calling was still as abysmal as ever. Both interceptions came of terribly called plays.
The one at the end of the half had Pep calling super conservative plays on the first two downs hoping to just run out the clock and head into the locker room. Than on third down he realizes his mistake. He left Peyton too much time and Luck has to throw it deep to take the team out of a hole Pep put it in.
The other interception came of one off the worst designed plays I have ever seen. You have three receivers, one runs out of bounds before Luck is even finished dropping back and the other two end up in the exact same area. Forcing Luck to throw the ball into an area with 5 defenders or take a sack.
Towards the end of the game, Denver began dropping more and more defenders into coverage, allowing our run game to have some success. We march down to their endzone with ease. Denver finally begins to put 8 man in the box. Pep continues to run the ball into the stacked box. We end up settling for a field goal. When you go against Peyton, settling for field goals is never an option.
If anything, the winning and the amount of talent on the team masks the terrible job that Pep does
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Hey, don't forget Dalton
nobody forgets the Red Rifle
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I was fortunate enough to grow up with Marc Zumoff as the local commentator and know what its like when someone does a great job. All the CBS and FOX guys are mediocre at best, but Simms is by far the worst of the bunch
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Being tall and long doesnt make you athletic. Roy Hibbert is a mountain of a man and nobody is describing him as athletic. Lonzo has terrible lateral quickness, which is why UCLA used a zone. Lonzo had difficulty keeping up one on one at the college level. If you caught Lonzo in an ISO, the opponent would score.
RGIII wasnt that much smaller than your average QB. He couldnt read a defense pre-snap and relied to heavily on his athleticism. Opposing defenses just caught up with him. The past few seasons hes been getting benched while healthy. But, thats not the point. The narrative was that it doesnt matter who you get Luck or Griffen, both are can't-miss prospects. They glossed over all of Griffen's weaknesses and there were quite a few. With this draft, the narrative was a talent heavy draft with the top two standing above the rest. Once again, the issues with the second pick were glossed over to make it seem like the top 2 were closer in talent than the actual truth is.
Lonzo has serious issues with his shooting motion, which wasnt an issue when playing in high school and to some degree in college against players who just dont have the talent to play in the nba. In the NBA, that shot is going to get blocked, a lot. The motion is slow, it has a hitch, the ball is too far away from his body on the horizontal plane and way too close to his body on the vertical plane. It's incredibly difficult to tell someone who's been successful that what they have done up until now was wrong and that they have to rework his shooting motion from scratch. It's much easier to teach someone like Joel Embiid to shoot. Someone who didnt start playing basketball until his mid-late teens. Somebody who doesnt have a preconceived opinion on a proper shooting motion