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Overhyping? Calling Luck the best prospect since Elway or Peyton, 2 of the top 5 greatest Qbs ever is acceptable though right?
Name one person who has been pretty much universally touted as a brighter prospect than Andrew Luck since the 1998 draft. I'll help you out by listing the number one QB in every draft since then.
Tim Couch
Chad Pennington
Michael Vick
David Carr
Carson Palmer
Eli Manning
Alex Smith
Vince Young
JaMarcus Russell
Matt Ryan
Matt Stafford
Sam Bradford
Cam Newton
No, I don't think I'm wrong in saying he's a brighter prospect than any of those were at time of drafting.
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I'm not the biggest fan of Aaron Rodgers. He acts like a baby. He calls for penalties from the refs for any kind of quarterback collision, even the totally legal ones. He just acts like a huge wimp. He has a great team around him right now, so it's not like he's doing it all on his own. I agree that he is good, but I wouldn't say incredible.
Really? 40 TD passes in 14 games with 4300+ yards, 68% completion, QB rating of 120. That's pretty incredible.
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I noticed a couple of articles saying it'll cause the agents to push for a Manning trade to secure Luck a starter's salary but would it? Surely that would require restructuring Manning's contract which would stop the agents getting a cut of that $20m+ bonus? Wouldn't they rather try to find an agreement between Peyton and Luck to work together?
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I dont know why people are in the mind set that we have to pick one. I say draft Luck, keep Manning if healthy, have him learn for a couple years, then turn him loose after Manning retires.
I don't see why this can't work either. Seems ideal to me.
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I'd suggest we all become Rams and Vikings fans the next two weeks so it doesn't matter (and so any wins we might get won't be bitter sweet)
I know I'm doing that. In all honesty I fancy Vikings to beat Bears.
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Basically the two of us have enough of the same opponents that no combination of results in the next two weeks could lead to them getting 7 more results than us - helped hugely by 49ers and Chargers winning this week. We have a lot of games where two teams we've played square off, guaranteed points.
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I have no doubt they'd both trade number one pick, they both have young QBs they want to stick to and loads of teams want that first pick.
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I just want to try to see it the way others are...
Massive Pros of going 1-15
The opportunity to pick the most exciting prospect in years
Alternatively, trade this pick away for far more than a #2 or #3 will get
Earlier picks in every other round
Cons
Slightly prettier numbers in a season that means literally nothing
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Draft picks are an unknown quanity.....Luck could be Ryan Leaf..or just Carson Palmer
..as is the confidence of young players...like Brown (a 1st rounder) and Conner.....(a 7th rounder0
you cant measure that....you cant answer that..
The No. 2 choice is just as good as No.1 except for 1 player
Let me reword... what has the better chance of benefiting us more in the long term, getting the opportunity to pick (or trade for the world) the most excitable rookie since Peyton Manning, or winning some literally meaningless games? Sure the wins would be nice and I'd like nothing more than to see us win but let's think rationally. If Luck lives up to his hype, even half way to his hype, we will win many more games in the future than two against broken teams at the end of a horrible season.
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But the "long-term" benefits are negligible. It's an unproven risk, whether at pick 1 or 3.
As for rebuilding, we wouldn't be doing that by picking Luck anyway, because he isn't going to play for several years.
But what benefits us more in the long term - getting opportunity for better draft picks or winning meaningless games?
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Well let's cheer on Chargers tonight. A loss for Ravens helps us, a victory for Chargers hiders Vikes.
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This is good on paper, but let's think about the unthinkable... what if Peyton can never play again? Sticking Orlovsky behind a good OL doesn't make him a quarterback.
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The 49ers and Saints are going to be going toe to toe for a bye the rest of the way. The Rams shouldn't sniff a win. Minnesota could beat either opponent if they place a decent game and Rex or Hanie implode.
It will likely come down to the final weekend.
INDY 120 102 0.541
MINN 126 97 0.565
STL 130 90 0.591after 4 pm games.
Going off your calculations, what I decided to do was predict the remaining games. I looked at the remaining fixtures of all three team's opponents this year, and predicted the winner based on record so far this year (eg predicting a 10-3 team would beat a 4-9 team, on a tie I did my own prediction). Thus they're very unreliable but a guideline.
INDY 138 118 0.539
MINN 142 114 0.555
STL 151 105 0.590So very close between us and Vikings if everything goes this predictably...
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So, to be clear, if the Colts win one more and either the Rams or the Vikings lose out, the Colts would not get the #1 pick?
If Colts, Vikes and Rams all finish 2-14, Colts get 3rd pick I *THINK*. I've been told it would go
1. Rams
2. Vikings
3. Colts
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Who gets the first pick if Indy and St. Louis both end up 2-15 or Indy and Minnesota both go 2-15?
They get it ahead of us, we have a tougher schedule.
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I'm with you. I feel terrible for thinking it but not only would that pick be amazing, we NEED this coaching staff to go.
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Not worth it at all. Winning 2 games we actually lose a lot.
Sadly true. Don't think I have it in me to root for Texans and Jags against us but being rational we need to.
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If it ends up Rams 1, Vikes 2 then Rams would trade for the world and Vikes pick Kalil, leaving us with Barkley (or RG3)... what do we do then?
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This win could go very badly... I hate to say it but Texans and Jags are winnable. We could end up losing number one pick and keeping the coaching staff.. is that worth it for a couple of wins?
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I think you can always get tickets on-line. It just depends on whether you are willing to pay the price or not. Depending on how the season is going they can be pretty steep.
Of course this year that is not a problem, although I did notice that seats that cost $17.00 3 weeks ago are $20.00 this week. Maybe something to do with the popularity of the team we are playing against.
Ha... I'm a huge football (soccer) fan and I see my team play most home games (23 in a season) for about £20 a pop... $20 for a one off is basically nothing compared to that. What are they like when things are going well?
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Question I've been meaning to ask for a while (this seems fair) - how easy is it to get tickets? Can you just buy them online and walk in on the day?
I've never been - I'm in the UK so it's very impractical, but hopefully I'll be going to America in a few years and would need to go to a game at the Luke if and when I do.
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You did not just call Aaron Rodgers a perfect player... that's taking it way too far.
It was obvious hyperbole, but come on, he's incredible.
Jay305, it's because Michael Vick is really good. For RG3's worst possible outcome to be as good as Michael Vick he'd have to be incredible, rookies are always a bust risk but to say the worst possible bust for him is Michael Vick is way too much faith.
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If 0-16 is the only way to get Caldwell out then I want 0-16. I'll take the stigma to be rid of him. However if 1-15 would still get him sacked then I'd be desperate for a win.
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He has said he is entering the draft, what does this do for Colts?
Why Is Everyone So Caught Up On Luck?
in NFL Draft, Scouting, and Free Agent Talk
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He's not a bit better a prospect, he's one of the biggest of all time. By no means does this guarantee him success, but it certainly suggests the potential is there easily.