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  1. Denver and Elway have a serious problem...because they cant win with him anytime soon...

    ..I wonder how many choices and players they would give to Indy for Luck?

    3 firsts, 2 seconds and Von Miller please!

  2. It was always obvious Tebow just isn't a good quarterback. He can run the ball but his passing is utterly horrendous. I have no idea how he managed his Tebow-mania streak but it was always going to die.

  3. No, everyone that talks about Lucks says "I heard this guy on ESPN said he was great, or all of the experts say he is best". Up until watching a video on this board I haven't even seen an actual expert NFL scout talk about it. I have just heard other people(fellow fans and announcers) say the experts love this guy. I am not going to say I know more than an actual NFL scout that is ridiculous, I am not even close to being the most knowledgeable fan. I would just like to hear an actual expert break down what makes him so great, pinpointing qualities to show he is miles above his counterparts instead of hearing people say "well I heard this person say that other people say he is the best QB prospect since Manning." I can't see it, but apparently NFL Scouts do and I am just interested in why. I have talked to a MLB scout and said they only have to watch a pitcher for an inning or two because they are just watching the mechanics of his delivery and for certain qualities. I would imagine QB scouting is very similar, I just want to know what they qualites they see in Luck, things about his release and delivery, what they look for and what makes him special.

    This video could help... http://espn.go.com/v...clip?id=7326681

    Doesn't break down the smallest aspects of his game but Mel Kiper has ridiculous experience and he's got some very kind words. Says it's going to go into every detail, but it doesn't in that video. Keep watching and it will show you :)

    http://espn.go.com/n...scouting-report might be better.

    Actually (how many times am I going to edit this post) that second link is much better - there are tabs that break up every bit of his game :)

  4. I still don't understand what is so great about Luck. He had a solid career with Stanford, but Stanfords o-line and running game are amazing. Harbaugh went to SF and has a system much like he ran in Stanford and now Alex Smith looks like a million bucks. I am not a Luck "hater", we need to draft an eventual replacement to Manning, I just don't see how he is miles beyond everyone else and where the evidence is that he is the next Manning. I have watched him play and I wasn't too impressed. This draft is pretty rich at the QB position and if we traded with another top ten team we go get RGIII or another top QB and still have what could turn into a quality starter. On top of that we have picks that this team needs because there are alot of holes on this team. I am cool with drafting Luck and understand it, but unlike alot of people here I can see why we would trade the pick as well. Also what is this evidence of Luck being far above everyone else at QB, I have heard the so called experts talk about it, I just would like more of an explanation and evidence rather than "because everyone says so".

    What are you trying to say with "so called experts"? Are you trying to say your evaluation of Luck is more accurate than every scout's?

  5. Well if the rumour that the pick is worth three 1sts and two 2nds, then they'd be stupid not to trade considering how tied to Bradford they are (I know a lot of people are saying we're tied to Manning but the age makes it a very different situation). Kalil would be great for them, but they have a lot of holes to fill, they're probably worse than 2011 Colts which is saying something.

  6. Numbers are very suspect, you can get an assist for being stood near and watching a tackle these days. Agree with what 21isSuperman has been saying though. Just because the numbers flatter him doesn't mean he hasn't been very good. Shame our coordinators have been very suspect (our normal OC in Peyton is out), and since Murphy took over Angerer has been looking even better.

  7. Nobody thinks (or at least I didn't think) you were bashing Manning. End of the day, this thread brings up a topic a lot of us are familiar with but none of us want to talk about, a real elephant in the room. All the points you raise are valid but we're all too scared to accept it as a possibility. All I know is, it would kill me to see Peyton Manning throwing for a different team. But there's nothing we can do, we have to sit and pray he's fit enough by March to warrant us giving him that $28m. I have full faith Peyton Manning's last ever game will be wearing Colts blue, I just hope that that game is played in 2015 and not 2010.

  8. The guy just isn't very good which is probably a good thing - it's a relief for the sport that it isn't a poster boy coming out with this sort of thing.

    That said it's entertaining, I can't stand Rex Ryan so good to see him get a shouting. It's still embarrassing behaviour and I don't see Giants tolerating it much longer.

  9. Mr. B

    that's revisionist history..

    You can find those who said that..many NOW pull a Skip Bayless and say they predicted it... just like you can find those who said Cam Newton wanst ready...

    But we all followed the NFL then and almost all scouts talked about was his big body (which became bigger) and arm strength fitting

    in with the 'vertical passing game' that Al Davis liked..

    I KNOW you remember that......Few doubted Russell would be the Raiders starter for years

    Most people admit they didn't think Cam was NFL ready and that he's proved them wrong. Nobody has been hyped to the level Luck has since 98 - Russell was far more doubted than Luck.

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