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2 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:
I like Reich and think he is a good coach so I am just puzzled by Thursday's game plan. Even @EastStreet was puzzled by it. After the way JB tore Houston up in game 1, I thought in game 2 we would throw more is all I am saying.
The gameplan is only as good as the people executing it.
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1 minute ago, SteelCityColt said:
I've said it before, but there is lot more to the story then I think we'll ever find out.
Gut feel, football needed Andrew Luck more than he needed football.
Luck isn't the kinda guy to lie or mislead them, I'm sure he fully conveyed where his head was at. If he was thinking retirement back in March-April, then I'm 100% positive that Ballard/Reich were aware.
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1 minute ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:
It has nothing to do with being a Brissett sympathizers, good grief. Answer me this, how is it JB can throw for 326 yards and 4 TD's in the 1st Houston game, then lay an egg in the 2nd one and Watt didn't even play?
I can answer my own question, Reich opened the playbook up in that 1st game. In the 2nd game we ran the ball almost all game. Why I have no idea.
What other game has he played like that? I'll answer my own question, none. Since that game, he's been bad. In the last 6 he's been the worst starting QB in the league, seriously find me one that has played worse.
The dude has been beyond average for 95% of the year. He's playing behind a great oline, he has some pretty solid weapons (better than Luck had), and has extremely pedestrian numbers. Those numbers would get any other starter in the league benched, but we have nobody else! Lol. We're stuck in Jacoby mode.
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Just now, EastStreet said:
Eason has had some real duds. IIRC Stanford, Cal, and OrSt. I watched both the Stanford and Cal games and he looked pretty awful.
His best game was vs Oregon in a loss, but while O has a decent D, their passing D isn't near what their rush D is.
It's his first year starting, he's basically a freshman. He has all of the tools, he's basically Justin Herbert last year. With refinement I think he can be a stud, luckily we could let him sit for a year if he needed it. He's looked better than Jordan Love, and against much better competition.
If they're gonna take a QB in the first, depending on where we ultimately end up picking from, I'll say 17th or so...we will likely have to trade up to get Herbert, and would definitely have to to get Burrow. Best case scenario is that Tua falls to us, makes a full recovery, and we get a 1st overall pick QB selection for a major discount. We might have to wait a year, or 8-10 games, but to have a franchise guy I'm all in. He's basically Russell Wilson, he has an amazing deep ball and is extremely accurate, he rarely makes mistakes.
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1 minute ago, stitches said:
I don't think he meant taking the ball out of Luck's hand to THIS degree. This is suicidal for a coach to do. It's fireable offense if he indeed did it with Luck as the QB.
There's zero chance he would have implemented this gameplan with Andrew Luck. When your QB is scared to death to throw the ball, and way too late when he does, you have to play to your strengths: The Oline.
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5 minutes ago, stitches said:
No idea.
In 2014 as OC with the Chargers they passed 59% of the time
In 2015 as OC with the Chargers they passed 63% of the time
In 2018 as HC and playcaller for the Colts they passed 61% of the time
In 2019 as HC and playcaller for the Colts they are passing 50% of the time....
One of those is not like the others.
Only people that think this are Jacoby Brissett sympathizers, and god only knows what they're seeing because he's been bad. When you can't average 200 passing yards or a full TD per game (in the last 6) then you're probably not good at your job. I was looking at the list of guys that average better than JB and it's basically every starting QB in the league, Jeff Driskel included, and Andy Dalton on that atrocious Bengals team was averaging 82 more yards per game and 3x the TD's. That's bad.
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14 minutes ago, EastStreet said:
pretty please no Fromm, Eason, or Hurts.
It would be interesting to see how Ballard grades the QB class. He's proven to go against the grain with several picks.
I like Eason quite a bit. He's probably my 3rd favorite for us to bring in after 1)Burrow and 2)Herbert.
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9 minutes ago, aaron11 said:
i think QB is the #1 need now too, they may not have to trade up to the top to get one
there could be some good ones in the late first or second round in this class. they may not be day 1 starters though we can afford that now
There's a bunch of good ones. Burrow, Herbert, Fromm, Eason, Love, and Hurts.
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8 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:
Over the last decade I can't recall a coach that loves to run it so much other than Rex Ryan when he coached the Jets. He had Sanchez at QB and was run 1st. They did make 2 AFC Title games in a pass happy league.
Why does everyone think Frank likes to run it so much? Luck threw for over 4500 yards last year. His QB is trash, and he has an elite oline, what else is he supposed to do? Jeez.
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You put Joe Burrow on this team next year, and add a guy like Reagor or Ruggs, we win this division and make some noise in the playoffs. The next year we have a legit SB chance.
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5 minutes ago, MPStack said:
I think the Colts will be in QB purgatory for awhile.Man, I hope not. That's why I'm a proponent of taking your shot, and getting a guy like Burrow or Herbert. If it costs a little bit...pay it.
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1 minute ago, richard pallo said:
Yes I have and there are some very good ones with "potential". But all they have right now is potential. I would rather trade for the proven WR who can contribute right away and make an immediate impact. He can still draft one in the second round as well. But so far Ballards success at WR hasn't been too impressive. You know Cain, Fountain to name a few. Campbell is another receiver with injury issues who can barely see the field when healthy. The surest and quickest way to fix the WR issue is to go out and make a deal for one. I think the time has come this offseason for Ballard to fix a big hole at WR with a trade. I bet he could acquire a good one that will fit our offense.
I'm not against it, it needs to be squared away one way or the other, maybe both ways.
I'm not even close to ready to write off Parris Campbell, I think he's gonna be a really good player for us.
Guys like Jeudy, Lamb, Higgins, Ruggs, and Reagor are gonna be the DK Metcalfs, Terry Mclaurins, and Deebo Samuel's of next year.
I don't fault Ballard for missing on late round WRs, those dudes rarely ever pan out. They lasted for a reason.
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5 minutes ago, MPStack said:
Nobody is giving up a bunch of draft picks, let alone a 1st Rd pick for Cam. He’s terrible, injury prone and 31.
Ballard needs to draft a future QB. Unfortunately, a lot of teams need a QB.
If you wanna go that route, just draft Jalen Hurts in the 2nd. At this point he's probably better than Cam. Dude is putting up silly numbers at Oklahoma.
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15 hours ago, James Harden said:
Before the season began, I predicted this team would go 11-5 with or without Luck. Now, I'm not so sure. Hey, the team could still win out and prove me right but I highly doubt it. I thought Brissett could be THE GUY. I'm not sure anymore after the performance on Thursday. Either Reich run the ball too much(predictable gameplan) or he doesn't trust Brissett with the ball. Like everyone else has said, Brissett is a game manager. He checks down too much. He stares down WRs. He throws are so slow when receivers are open. Brissett slow indecisions/trigger is what give defenders time to cover back wide open WRs. I could be wrong on all of this and maybe it just was a bad game. But, its very troubling sign for Brissett.
If this season doesn't work out, I hope Luck comes back out of retirement. Maybe, just maybe, Tua or Joe Burrow fall to us in the draft and we can scoop either one of them up. Just my two cents. Back to ballin in basketball
Schwaaagg,
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Maybe it was just a bad game? He's been bad for the last 6 weeks, averaging 167 yds, 0.8 TD and 0.45 INT per game. That's atrocious, you could almost accidentally throw for more than that blindfolded and guessing where your receivers might be.
The team is winning despite Jacoby Brissett, the run game has been mostly solid, a tribute to the oline mainly imo, the defense is deep and makes enough plays, the signing of Justin Houston has turned out to be a great one, he's easily been our best defensive lineman.
If they had a better QB, and a kicker, they'd be well in the lead for the division, and a legit postseason contender. We're close.
3 minutes ago, richard pallo said:If that's the case then we must trade for one. No premier WRs will hit FA. BB does it all the time.
For a WR? Have you researched the 2020 class?
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1 hour ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:
Yeah that is bad, we rank 29th in yards passing per game but there is also a reason for that, being we are ranked 3rd in rushing yards per game at 144.2. Reich just loves to run it, whether it is a JB problem or he just feels we can overwhelm teams with our Line I am not sure.
Guess how many passing yards we averaged last year? Not so sure it's Reich "loving to pass it", as it is Reich playing to personnel strengths.
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3 minutes ago, bravo4460 said:
Needs.
1.) WR
2.) QB
3.) Pass Rusher
4.) Interior DL
5.) Secondary Depth
I like it. I'd swap QB to the top just because of the monumental influence the position has on the team. WR is right there with it, and luckily for us many are touting the 2020 crop of WR's as historic. We need Interior Defensive Line players that can legit make a difference, and there's several big time guys in this draft if that's the direction they wanna go early. The 2 guys from Auburn, Brown and Coe, are legit.
I know it's not a primary need, but a guy like Isaiah Simmons from Clemson would be a game wrecker at LB, and he's dynamic enough to move around, kid's an absolute freak athlete. You could put him from anywhere to 3 and 5 technique all the way back to Safety, he's a legit chess piece that could be used anywhere.
I know most won't be on board with it, but I'm all for making our move and grabbing Herbert or Eason in the 1st. If you haven't yet, go watch Herbert's tape, kid can spin it, he's perfect for Reich's offense. He's drastically improved this year, only 2 picks on the year with like 25 TDs, and his pretty damn mobile for being 6'6 and 230.
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45 minutes ago, stitches said:
Imma tell you Utah state has this awesome linebacker... we might be watching him.
Jordan Love and... Laviska Shenault(he's not a burner though)? If you want a burner... Jalen Raegor or Henry Ruggs ... maybe Devonta Smith...
Yeah man, I'd say the odds are probably greater than 75% that they take a QB somewhere in those first 3 picks.
He's scouted basically every game where 2 higher profile QBs went head to head, Oregon/Washington, LSU/Utah State, etc. Ballard was quoted saying he particularly liked Jordan Love and Herbert, and the 2020 WR class in general, so I'd say those 2 are addressed with our earlier picks (first 4 on Day 1/2). Just a blind man throwing darts over here, though lol. I have faith they will get it worked out whatever they decide to do.
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12 minutes ago, DougDew said:
But the context of JB, we are criticizing his pregression reads. Hardly anything else is being criticized. I'm assuming the lack of defensive coverage awareness is why people call him not a franchise QB.
Lamar and Mohomes have not displayed such awareness either, IMO. Not that they don't have it, its just not considered to be the basis for saying they are the best young QBs in the NFL. To me, a QBs running ability lasts about as long as it did for Kaepernick and Griffin, so we'll see if Lamar becomes elite for other reasons. And converting sandlot improvisations maintains its longevity for about as long as it did for Johnny Manziel, so we'll see if Mahomes becomes elite for other reasons.
So, no, I would not want Jalen Hurts, Tua, or even Kyler Murray as my QB, if I'm counting on the QB to carry the load by reading defenses like I would if I labeled him a franchise QB. I'm not saying they don't have that ability, its merely not been talked about in their skill set. The hype has been about other things.
I'm not sure how injuries have impacted Mariota's progressions analysis, or if he ever had much of one to begin with. It seems Darnold and Rosen have as much starting experience as JB, so I don't know why any of them would be on a different learning trajectory.
It seem like any college QB we draft, outside of a Manning or Luck, will have as many questions about their ability to read NFL defenses that we are having with JB, so I can't see why its so readily accepted to chuck JB in favor of a mid first or early second round talented college QB.
From what I've seen Fromm has that mental connection and maturity, but I'm not sure he has the physical tools. Burrow seemed impressive in the few times I've seen him, has more of a physical game than Fromm but less awareness, IMO.
So, unless it's a generational guy like Luck or Manning we should stick with a guy that can't even average 170 yards passing or a full touchdown?
Mahomes and Jackson have at least 1 thing they do that's elite elite, best in the league. Mahomes has the best improvisation skills in the league, and Jackson has the ability to take the game over with his legs. JB has absolutely nothing that he does better than average. Again, to compare those guys is like comparing Ford Escorts to Lamborghinis.
I don't agree at all that there's no guys in this class that will be Pro Bowl caliber players, I think there's probably 5 that have that potential, I'll leave it Ballard/Reich to choose the one they see fit.
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At most, there will be 5-6 guys to go total in the 1st, maybe less now that Tua is hurt.
I'd say, in order:
1)Burrow
2)Herbert
3)Eason
4)Fromm
5)Love
6)Hurts
Tua would be in there somewhere if he declares, Love and Eason could also return to school. I'd say those 7 guys (with Tua) are the only ones with legit 1st round potential. By the time we pick in the first we should have a chance at all but probably Burrow and Herbert, depending how the year finishes out. If we end up around 15th or so we may be in range to make a move for Herbert. I'd want 1)Herbert 2)Eason or 3)Hurts.
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2 minutes ago, DougDew said:
He's probably not a "franchise" QB and never will be. I've said that I don't want a franchise guy, not at least the kind of guy it takes to give us a Manning/Luck performance, with an equal investment of capital.
Does Lamar Jackson read defenses, or does he just take off after his first read? Does Mahomes go through progressions, or does he make his money by running around in the backfield and convert on improvisations? How are Mariota, Mayfield, Rosen, and Darnold doing?
Just curious as to how important having a franchise QB, the kind who makes presnap and immediate post snap reads, is these days. I say build the team another way, since they don't seem to exist coming out of college anyway.
Maybe the team would look differently if the guys we drafted played up to their potential. Hard to blame it all on JB at this point, but he can certainly improve.
Lol Lamar Jackson and Pat Mahomes are the 2 best young QBs in the league atm, so I don't even want to get into a conversation that includes JB in context.
Mayfield and Darnold will be fine. Rosen was dealt probably the worst hand a 1st round quarterback ever has, hard to fault him, Mariota dealt with injuries so it's hard to know what could have been.
If that's your line of thinking then take a guy like Jalen Hurts in the 2nd. He's a Lamar Jackson lite, and wouldn't require much salary at all. One thing is for sure, he's a playmaker, he's accountable for around 4000 yards and 35 TDs for Oklahoma this season and still has several games, and only has 4 picks the entire year, that's impressive.
Idk how the team is going to be built, and I know everyone and their mom is trying to find someone to blame atm. They'll be fine, look at what the team did last year with competent quarterback play. I fully trust Ballard/Reich to figure it out this offseason with the draft capital and cap space they have at their disposal. I'm actually thoroughly impressed that they've squeezed this much out of the team with Luck's retirement and all of the injuries.
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6 minutes ago, DougDew said:
Slightly off topic, but yes. We've invested capital in projects. I won't say just like we did with TJ Green, but its not that far off.
I'm tired of investing based on projections....or the NFL term...high ceiling.
I've become a low floor kind of guy.
Kelly, Nelson, Smith were all low floor guys. Outside of Leonard, they have been our best draft picks over the past few years because they consistently perform at a high level, where they were expected to perform nearly on day one.
Turay, Lewis, Benagu, and Hooker for that matter, have been high picks that were based upon their perceived ceilings. Wilson had some polish issues too, as did Basham. Hines was a 4th, but he's not done as much as he needs to for a player getting PT in a skilled position.
They were all drafted no later than the third. IMO, its taken too long for them to have earned their draft spots. Turay and Benagu have more time.
I'm for drafting guys in the first 2 rounds this year....three picks...that are low floor guys. A possession WR, a DT that can outplay Hunt or Grover on day one, but might not ever be an all-pro, and either an all around TE to replace both Ebron and Doyle (mainly Ebron) or a RB that can run through a tackle.
Wouldn't matter if you drafted the next Tony Gonzalez and OBJ if the QB can't make the reads necessary, or make the reads quickly enough, to utilize their talent.
I don't know how you look at Brissett this year and think he is gonna blossom into a franchise guy that will lead us to deep playoff runs. He's averaging under 170 yards and less than a full TD (0.8) per game in the last 6, that's practically nonexistent. You have to have to have more production from that position.
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Just now, richard pallo said:
Because they open to drafting one in the later rounds to develop for the future.
They're scouting Herbert, Love, and Burrow...all guys with 1st round grades.
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3 minutes ago, richard pallo said:
Reich and Ballard love JB. They will not trade up to get a QB and put JB on the bench. The team loves him as well. I do not think they would do that to him. They might draft one in a later round to develop behind him though. They are more likely to get JB another quality receiver. They have the cap space and picks to trade for one and I can see them drafting one as well as most rookies will take a few years to develop. Unless Luck gets itchy and comes out of retirement I think JB is our starter for the next few years at a minimum. When you consider all of the circumstances surrounding the offense it certainly doesn't warrant a benching of the QB. I think when they do their year end assessment that is what they are going to conclude.
Then why are they sending their top scouts to watch QBs? Literally all year they've done this.
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9 minutes ago, Chloe6124 said:
That isn’t what I said. I said get players healthy and get him more weapons and then make a judgement. This persons tweet is why you have to be careful.
Did you actually watch the video from The Herd? Because it basically proves my point, every division leader in football has a franchise QB. That's not a coincidence. We have a backup, and it shows, we will never win this division, or a playoff game, with JB playing quarterback. I see that, and Chris Ballard saw it before any of us did, probably before the year started because he's had his scouts watching guy like Burrow, Love, Herbert, and Eason ALL YEAR LONG. There's no doubt he's gonna take the QB of the future, the real question is who, and are they gonna move up to do it.
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The All 22 is bad man lol, really bad.