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  1. 16 hours ago, DougDew said:

    My comment saw that the pro-colt podcast guy was framing the signings like Ballard intentionally stayed status quo while the other teams were too hapless and ignorant to retain their own good players and then had to scramble to find lesser replacements at a greater cost.  LOL.

     

    Why not simply assume that all three teams made moves because they thought it was in the best interests of their teams?  Assume that when our Division rivals let one player go, they did so with the intent of upgrading the position....not just REPLACING what they lost.   Blatant bias in the framing of the issue, IMO.

     

    Yep. Maybe Joel and Holder are just being contrarians because the more vocal sentiment is dissatisfaction among the fanbase.

     

    But I have long held that the local "media" in Indy is incredibly Ballard-friendly, to the point that they will often carry his water. Doyel and Bowen (sorta) can be critical, but that's really it. Dakich doesn't count lol

     

    But guys like Keefer (when he was still here), Holder, the Indy Star guys, Chappy, all of the podcasters, bloggers...they all tend to operate like some extension of Colts PR with how they hype up players/moves and how they spin narratives. The bias is blatant.

     

     

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  2. Just now, 1959Colts said:

    Another signing by Houston nobody is talking about is defensive tackle Folorunso Fatukasi. He was outstanding last year


    Yep. They revamped their entire DL around Anderson, who could be an AP ER. 
     

    They have elite DL potential. Hunter and Autry had 28 sacks last year alone. 
     

    They are trying to be contenders. 

  3. 1 minute ago, AKB said:

    so here's my question, if we were almost last in points allowed last season... and our defense is staying pretty much the same... and we have the same defensive coach.. what's gonna be the changing factor to take us from almost last to at least improved? 


    You’re not to supposed to ask questions. Or at least wait until the end of the presentation. 

  4. 16 minutes ago, AKB said:

    DTs have been providing good value into their 30s. Hargrave and Cox come to mind most recent


    They do, but PHI had to let Hargrave walk last year. And now SF (who signed Hargrave) is letting Armstead walk.

     

    It’s tough to pay $40M to your interior DL, let alone when they are 30+. But we will see…DeFo should retire a Colt.

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  5. 41 minutes ago, DougDew said:

    That sounds like spin.  There is a good chance that those teams let their players go to specifically upgrade the position...Hunter for Grenard for example.  Is he saying that Grover, Franklin, and Moore were some of the best free agents at their positions?  I wouldn't know, but it I'll bet many here would not see that.  It might also mean it was simply a poor FA year.


    Holder is on Twitter talking about how great this team has drafted to be keeping guys they drafted 6-7 year ago. It’s always spin. 
     

    HOU swapped out Greenard (coming off his first great season) for an AP ER in Hunter. Also brought in Autry as well. Upgraded at LB and added some DB help. Can’t take anyone seriously who say they haven’t improved. 
     

    Grover would have gotten a good deal from someone. And Moore too. But that’s a lame reason to re-sign a player. 

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  6. 4 hours ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

    The idea of this signing is hoping AR plays all 17 games but if he doesn't, we know we have a guy that can win a game or 2 in a pinch. Flacco is old but he is equateable to Minshew at this point. Sam isn't even close to either of those guys.

     

    Depends on which Flacco you get. The CLE version was probably similar (though Minshew already knew the scheme), but Flacco was pretty bad with the NYJ the year before.

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  7. Love it. But Flacco should know that this is where aging vet QBs go to end their careers. So maybe he just knows it time.

     

    It also allows me to post the dancing Flacco raven, which is one of the best ESPN graphics of all time:

     

    5a1d97141bae0260c31c8e9c_giphy.gif

     

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  8. 2 hours ago, DougDew said:

    No big deal.  I just see it the right way and the person who wrote the obvious Moore support pieces is peddling pro-colts player dogma.

     

    This is the time of year when we think of market value.  I would see it as any player who is a fit for a certain scheme....that by our understanding is a unique "Gus-scheme" would have less value on the open market because he is less of a good fit for every other non Gus scheme.  (To the writer, apparently...Moore is specialized to only one team...so he turns it around like we are suppose to think it makes Moore MORE valuable (from a price perspective). 

     

    But to simply say that because Moore is so good in one unique Gus' scheme, it makes him more valuable as a slot corner...that flies in the face of how the concept of MARKET VALUE actually works in business.

     

    Having said that, I don't have a problem with the Moore contract, or any contract.  Its weird that people do, because with all of the shuffling of contracts, salary cap increases, restructures, push backs etc, nobody really understands the consequences of most contracts, so they really don't have a basis for praising it or criticizing it...but yet many here do any way.

     

    It's not just Gus' scheme. He was really bad in the same scheme in 2022, so teams likely factor that in. It's that he's a limited player, who can only play inside. 

     

    I also don't think other teams (like Colts fans) forgot how bad he was in 2022, or near the end of 2021. It's on the tape. And even last season, many of his stats did not rank well: https://www.playerprofiler.com/nfl/kenny-moore/

     

    CBs stat-tracking and grading can be tough, given it's hard to definitively know coverage assignments, so always have to take with a grain of salt. But his stats do not match up with his PFF grade (who places huge emphasis on big plays).

     

    And on that note, he had two pick 6s in the same game. But outside of that game, and even with the second-lowest aDOT of any CB, his stats were much more like 2022 than "the best slot CB in the NFL." You can see from the link above, and PFR has his passer rating in those other 16 games as 113 (vs. 117 in 2022).

     

    The Colts also played a bottom 5 strength of schedule on defense and a slew of bad QBs last year (like a rookie Bryce Young).  

     

    Down the stretch, we started to see late 2021 and 2022 Kenny. 4 TDs allowed in 3 games, a 140+ passer rating allowed. Plays like:

    • Kyle Pitts TD where Kenny isn't even close
    • Diontae Johnson TD where he's 4 steps too late
    • Tanner Hudson TD where he just lets Hudson catch it and then gets dragged into the EZ
    • Chase Brown TD where he's slow to come over, takes a bad angle, gets tossed out of the play and Brown takes it all the way for a TD

     

    Now he's going to be a year older, at a position where guys lose it fast. And he already can't cover downfield.

     

    I am sure people think I am a Kenny Moore hater...and that's perfectly fine. Because after watching this guy for the past 3 years (two of them in the current system), I feel like I am taking crazy pills with how he's perceived. The comeback narrative was so predictable too...the media was even writing about it BEFORE this past season. Even before the CAR game too.

     

    I don't care about the contract so much, it's the idea of committing to an aging CB (for more money) who can only play inside (with questionable coverage). It's a position they should be able to fill with a draft pick or should have somebody ready to take over. 

     

    Assuming the Colts SoS gets tougher (as it should), by mid season, I predict people will be saying "what happened to last year's Kenny Moore?" with the more negative people claiming that "Moore is washed."

     

    Which is actually what people were saying BEFORE last season's "comeback" when he was discussed as a potential cut candidate.

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  9. Like an in-the-box S who exclusively plays near the LOS and doesn't have to cover much past that? Sure, that's largely his role now. Which is why I wanted to see them try to fill that role via the draft.

     

    But as a FS? I think that seems very counterintuitive. For starters, you would lose what he brings in run defense, which IMO, is by far his most valuable trait at this point (in addition to leadership).

     

    Secondly, he would likely be a massive liability having to cover downfield. He's never done that and he's also not very big. In Gus' system, his aDOT last year was the second-lowest of all CBs (around 4 yds), likely by design. He struggled defending 8 yds downfield...so if the aDOT was twice that (like it can be for FSs), I think teams would target him.  

     

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  10. 55 minutes ago, Tsarquise said:

     

     

     

    I feel like he needs to do it more often to be considered a troll. That's just me, though. I wouldn't expect him to respond due to the immense backlash from bmthe sentiment of not liking Richardson. 

     

     

    I looked at his profile briefly. I saw only one other thread about Richardson. Maybe I missed more. 

     

    He just isn't over the top enough for me nor does he do it frequently enough. Although the comments about Minshew are really hard to take seriously. 

     

     

    Right. Not liking AR doesn't necessarily mean he's trolling. It's a slippery slope to consider an unpopular opinion as trolling, as long they aren't spamming discussion threads with comments or the home page with a bunch of posts they created. If it's just a few posts/comments here and there, it's easy to just ignore and move on (which is always the best thing to do when it looks like trolling anyways). I also think some people use this forum (and others) like a soap box, not because they want to engage in discourse. 

     

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  11. OP is just now realizing all of this? A little late to the party. The AR hype train and narratives began even before he was drafted. Once he became a Colts...fuhgetaboutit.

     

    On Twitter, a the day after the SB, a chunk of Colts podcasters/fan accounts were all posting that AR would be the one to dethrone Mahomes. Some of that is trolling other teams and their QBs, but there is a huge contingent of this fanbase that sort of behaves like a cult.

     

    The truth is all we have is a very small sample size, so we can't really draw any conclusions yet. If somebody wants to be optimistic, that's fine with me. But the hyperbole and suplerlatives are a bit annoying at times.

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  12. 20 hours ago, AwesomeAustin said:

    Thank you for sharing. Looks like he did have a good first half of the season. Also looks like he was steadily regressing(or possibly others were ascending) during the second half. Playing time wise he was the TE3. I personally think he would have been TE4 if Woods was available. I believe the Colts kept 4 TEs last year.  Will be interesting to see if MAC is retained, Woods returns healthy and Mallory/Ogletree battling it out for the possible last roster spot should be really good.  Maybe they both stay on the roster if MAC is cut and no TE is drafted in the early rounds. As always, I will wait and see what happens. 


    It’s also PFF. Two of those weeks where he  graded top 5, I don’t think he caught a pass (JAC and CLE).

     

    He’s also a STer, so I wonder if these were overall grades, or just his grade as a TE. Or if that gets separated (don’t have PFF sub).
     

    Noticed too that his PFF grades regressed as his ST snaps decreased. Could just be a coincidence though.

  13. 20 minutes ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

     

     

    This is interesting. I think part of this is rule changes. But also, Ss typically play at a high level longer than other positions, so you have guys getting paid from several different draft classes at the same time.

     

    Whatever the reason, Ballard should be signing at least two of these guys. Blackmon might only get a one-year deal with that many other Ss out there.

  14. 5 minutes ago, Solid84 said:

    If WR isn’t what we’re taking at 15 (or Bowers), I really like the idea of taking Byron Murphy or maybe Jer’Zhan Newton. 

     

    DT would make a lot of people angry, but it actually makes sense because of how the roster is constructed. Both Grove and DeFo are or will be 30 soon, so they have to get younger there somehow. 

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  15. 15 hours ago, NewColtsFan said:


    I don’t get the comparison to signing Gilmore at 10 mill per 2/20, with trading for Sneed and paying him $15-18 mill.   That would be 5/75-90.  

     

    That’s something Ballard has NEVER done, so I don’t see it as a “very Ballard move”.  

     

    I think Zack Hicks and Jake Arthur have made a VERY weak argument.   

     

    They often do. All offseason, Hicks has been trying to convince everyone the reason the DL couldn't pressure often was because QBs just threw the ball so fast the DL couldn't get there.

     

    Only thing the Gilly and Sneed moves have in common is the position, but the Sneed move is much more like the DeFo move, in that will require draft capital AND a massive extension.

     

    I think $15-18M is probably even on the low side. Every year, we get to FA and we are like "woah...these contracts are crazy." Just wait. The cap raised 14% from where people thought it was. It's going to be insane. 

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  16. 16 hours ago, Solid84 said:

    It would and he'd probably cost nearly twice what Stewart will make. It would improve our passrush though.

     

    Wilkins would be a dream signing. He's two years younger and better than Grove. The problem is how do you sign him AND extend DeFo? That would be a lot of money tied up in interior DL. 

     

    I suppose if they went ER at #15 (Verse or Turner), that would offset it a bit. Then they can decide between Paye and Dayo for an extension after next season.

     

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  17. 1 hour ago, GoColts8818 said:

    Sure if you are ignoring all the signals Pittman has been sending is very different from the signals Taylor was sending.  It’s pretty easy to tell Pittman wants to be here and knows he’s going to be here.  It’s also pretty clear the Colts want him.  This is also just as clearly a negotiation tactic on Pittman’s part of make sure he gets as much as he can from the Colts which is smart on his behalf.  
     

    Let’s play the game though for a moment and let’s just say something happened and Pittman is willing to listen to offers from other teams.  Let’s just say someone loses their mind and says we’ll give you 30 million a year and Pittman is like yes please and goes back to the Colts and says hey team X is willing to give me 30 million a year and I am not taking less.  The Colts are going to say then go sign the offer sheet and we will take the two first round picks.  There is no incentive for them to say hey let’s work out a trade with team X and take less than they can get with the tag being put on Pittman since they don’t want Pittman to leave.  Even if that team calls the Colts are going to stick to their asking price just like they did with Taylor.  They aren’t just going to give Pittman away.  
     

    So everyone worrying about losing Pittman for less than two first round picks is wasting time.  Odds are other teams aren’t going to contact Pittman because they aren’t going to give up two first rounders for him and they know the Colts aren’t interested in trading him so they are just wasting their time.  
     

    As for other things to talk about?  What about what’s going to happen with Grover, Moore, and Blackmon?  There is always the draft to talk about as several are and there is always the shopping lists some are doing for free agency that starts in less than a week.  So there are other things to talk about but if people want to spend time worrying about something that’s not going to happen knock yourself out.


    Signals? You mean like not signing an extension to this point and talking about exploring options?

     

    We can just ignore these signals as meaningless but see other signals as him being clear about wanting to stay here? That seems selective. 
     

    The difference from JT is that JT plays a less valuable position with a far shorter shelf life, which is why he pushed the issue. 
     

    MPJ has far more options and he seems to exploring them.
     

    The stipulation about two R1 picks is largely irrelevant. It hasn’t happened since 2000. It’s not going to happen. Players have been tagged and traded for less many times. 
     

    MPJ coming back is the most likely outcome, but until he signs, it’s still worth speculation.


    If it doesn’t interest you, why are you responding?

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  18. 1 hour ago, 1959Colts said:

    Not happening. He has now been tagged and will be with the Colts this year, (unless the team chooses to trade him)

    Seems pointless to me, to be worrying (or even speculating) about such a remote possibility, and even if the team did trade him, the compensation would surely be in our favor


    We went through the entire JT trade/extension drama only months ago, so it’s natural to entertain different

    outcomes for a player from the same class who will likely be asking for nearly 2x the money.

     

    Besides, what else is there to discuss? FA hasn’t started and the draft is still several weeks away.

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  19. 40 minutes ago, Superman said:

     

    I think his market is pretty well established. Maybe if Tee Higgins signs for more than $25m/year, but that seems unlikely. The other guys -- Jefferson, Chase, Lamb, etc. -- are on another tier, and I don't think they should have a significant impact on Pittman's target. Who knows how it goes, but that's how I see it.

     

    I think more of Pittman and his potential with better QBing than you do, but I don't think he's irreplaceable. If he wanted to be traded, or if we got a strong offer for him, strictly from an on-field standpoint, I'd be willing to trade him. I think there's a locker room impact to consider, and based on everything Ballard and Steichen have said, I seriously doubt this would happen. But even a trade wouldn't bother me, as long as we got back good value. I wouldn't mind revamping our WR room rather than committing big money to Pittman.

     

    Outside of Pittman holding out, I don't think there's anything to worry about. The tag works in the team's favor 99% of the time.

     
    Agree. It's not like MPJ would just walk...he would net at least a R2 pick plus something else. And I think you could give lots of WRs 156 targets and get similar production. That's just a huge volume.

     

    But I don't think the Colts want to trade him at all. Colts have intentionally locked up players early. They even did so with JT. It's just part of their philosophy. I would assume the Colts wanted to do the same with MPJ and avoid using the tag in the first place.

     

    But if the Colts want him back (they seem to be clear on this), and his market is largely set (it's not really a money issue), why hasn't he signed? People say it's a lock he wants to be here because he has said so, but he also has said he wants to explore his options. 

     

    He's an ultra-competitive WR who has played with uncertainty at QB for 4 years and a self-admitted "sore loser" on a team that  has not won anything in the past 3 years. And while he at least knows who his QB is, he's still an unproven QB. 

     

    Whether it's winning or trajectory to a SB, QB certainty, personal accolades, production potential...I don't blame him for wanting to explore his options and I wouldn't blame him for finding greener grass.

     

    I am not concerned about any outcome TBH...I just think it's interesting that people are so sure he's a lock to be back. And I wonder what the reaction would be if he wasn't.

     

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  20. 10 minutes ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

    Wentz was the last QB he had with an arm. Every other QB was not a deep thrower. What I think is going to happen is we will see the deep stuff with Wentz combined with the intermediate stuff he had with Gardner, Ryan, and rivers.   I truly believe with Richardson we will finally see his complete game.

     

    That's certainly the idea. But I think it's highly unlikely he's getting 10 tgts/game with AR, let alone combining that with extra deep targets. Something will have to give. 

     

    It's just math. Colts threw the ball 574x last year with JT missing 7 games, Minshew playing 85% of the snaps and giving MPJ an incredible 30% target share. That's how you get to 156 targets in 16 games.

     

    If Steichen's PHI's offense is any indicator, we should expect PAs to decrease to 510-520 with AR. You add in in that they committed $14M AAV to JT, and there could be even more of a focus on the run game. I can't imagine they paid JT to not give him 300+ carries.

     

    Assuming MPJ falls back into a target share range closer to the 25% he was in the previous two years, we are talking about 125-30 targets over 17 games at best. So hopefully his aDOT does jump back up to 2021 levels because the 2022-23 version of MPJ doesn't hit 1k yards with that usage.

     

    I just think the AR impact to his role and prominence in the offense could actually be the opposite of what hope. Doesn't mean it won't be a net gain to the offense though, especially if Downs takes a step or they add another weapon. But the idea that AR will lift MPJ to an all-around WR, help AP take the leap to a legit WR2 AND turns Downs in a potential 1k WR...is just not feasible.

     

    And until he signs his new deal, I wonder if MPJ has considered it as well.

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  21. 44 minutes ago, Superman said:

     

    I'm just taking MPJ at his word. He said he wanted to see what's out there, but would not be displeased with being tagged. He also said the tag can be used to work toward a long term deal. So I don't think there's any indication that he doesn't want to be a Colt, or that there's a hang-up somewhere between him and the team. There could be, but it seems like he was willing to play out his contract and get to this point, then decide what the best option is. 

     

    I think his agent can speak to what other teams would be willing to pay. He has clients with the Giants, Panthers, Chiefs, Cardinals, Steelers, Bears, Ravens, Browns, Rams, etc., a bunch of teams that either have cap space or would want a WR. I also think the Colts have a legitimate offer on the table, and based on their track record, it's probably not a lowball. 

     

    Also, MPJ has already shown a willingness to play with one year on his contract, for $3m. He might be okay with playing on the tag for $22m, and then again for $26m, and then going to free agency at 28 years old. 

     

    All speculation on my part. I guess we'll see what happens, but I'm not freaking out about it.

     

    He has maintained since the season ended that he wanted to see what was out there. And the tag will allow him to do that. There are also other prominent WRs who could be upping the ante soon as well, so I am sure his agent has advised him of that as well.

     

    But he did say that he wouldn't "sacrifice his career potential for comfortability." That could mean money or it could mean something else. I don't think there is anything to freak out about, but tagged players do get traded. It's happened several times in recent years, though it's typically been ERs. 

     

    I thought about the length of the deal as well. He could be eyeing something shorter that allows him to hit FA again in a couple years. And two for $48M on the tag wouldn't be much different. 

  22. 3 hours ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

    What? Contrasted catches he is 100% elite. Just wait until he has Richardson back a lot of you will be proven wrong. We will finally get the Pittman that is all around WR. Having a QB that can hit him at all levels of the field will be huge. Every QB he has played with has had a limitation. Wentz was terrible in the middle. Minshew terrible downfield. Rivers really couldn’t throw much downfield by the end.

     

    MPJ hasn't really been used as a deep threat WR since the middle of the 2021 season with Wentz. Basically, since Antoine Winfield took his lunch money on a deep pass that turned into an INT.


    Felt like they stopped throwing him deep after that or some time around then. And this has now spanned 2.5 seasons with two coaching staffs.

     

    After 2021, they used their first pick (R2) to draft Alec Pierce, whose only known skillset was as a deep threat/contested catch player. Now it's 2024 and Ballard/Steichen are still talking about ADDING explosive plays to the offense.

     

    Even in their short amount of time, I don't recall AR taking any shots to MPJ...only Downs, AP or a TE. Though it was a very small sample size.

     

    I just don't know if I see his role changing much. He's valuable in his current role. If anything, I actually have a different view on what AR might do to MPJ as a WR. And for all I know, MPJ and his agent might be thinking the same thing.

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