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1 hour ago, Myles said:
Since Reich and Foles won a Super Bowl together, I'd like to see them reunited.
Same here. It’s the move that makes the most sense. JAC can’t afford to cut Foles...given his contract structure...trading him is at least somewhat palatable. The Colts are a divisional rival...but they have the cap space. I think something could be worked out toward that end.Give Foles a year or two and draft someone to develop this year.
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3 hours ago, Superman said:
What's more likely with a 39 year old QB? That he goes back to his good play from two years ago and throws fewer interceptions while maintaining efficiency, or that he continues to struggle? Especially with a new team.
You're right the Colts OL is better. The Chargers have a better receiving corps, the RB room is close to a wash, they have better TEs. They had a lot of injuries on defense, so maybe that side of the ball wasn't dramatically better this year, but still better IMO.
I mean...he’s only one year removed from a very very good season. I admit he looked bad this past year...but it’s a short-term gamble...that at least has upside of working. There is no upside to starting JB next year.-
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12 minutes ago, Valpo2004 said:
I could get behind that but he certainly seems to be declining. Although a change of scenery and an improved OL might help him a bit.
If we did that it would be awesome if we could grab Hunter Henry to come with him. Give him some familiar hands to throw to. But I doubt that.
Henry should be a priority if he becomes available...would give the Colts a top 2-3 TE room.
I would take a Rivers year...just to see what happens...if it got me Henry.
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1 hour ago, Chloe6124 said:
Ballard said when the team was 5-2 he thought it could still fall apart because the point difference wasn’t much. That’s what a lot of people said on this forum.
Can we stop with the colts are interested. That is not what it said. It said that could be a option if the colts wanted to go they direction.
Not able to listen...but Ballard is a smart dude...of course he saw the regression coming from playing so many coin flip games. Yet we got ridiculed for pointing this out.-
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2 hours ago, BleedBlue4Shoe86 said:
I think people are going to misconstrue what Ballard has said about Jacoby being the starter right now and that they will be looking at QBs in the draft. Ballard was very specific, that they are always looking to upgrade any position, IF THE PLAYER IS THERE. He was specific that they will not reach.
That comment is the exact opposite of specific...and intentionally so.-
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6 hours ago, Chloe6124 said:
Some WR comments from that stampede blue podcast. They said they don’t like Judy. They feel he stands around to much. They mentioned T Higgins getting shut down by nfl caliber CB in the Ohio state game. Lamb is clearly the best WR because hurts does not throw the ball well so he is clearly really good. They compared lamb to Hopkins.
Jeudy just put up 200+ yards in the Citrus Bowl. Colts won’t get the chance to draft him.I am really impressed by Tyler Johnson from MINN...seems like a great 2nd round target.
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4 hours ago, EastStreet said:
Approximate value is virtually the same for 1st and 2nd round QB picks (first link). Also, QB first round bust rate 40% is about the same as the chance of getting a pro bowler 42% over a 25 year sample (second link)
To add, there are more non-top 10 pick QBs that are in the playoffs, and QBs with top 10 QBRs, than there are from QBs that were picked in the top 10.
PS... Holder is horrible.
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1 hour ago, MPStack said:
You can dissect J. Lynch performance however you like. I think Lynch has faced some obstacles since being GM and made some mistakes in the process, but has done a pretty tremendous reshaping that team in a short time period through the draft, trade and acquiring FA. It’s JMO
I like Reich...but Shanahan was the HC I wanted most. Lynch nailed that and the Jimmy G trade (this far). It’s time for Ballard to show us what he can do at the QB position.-
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26 minutes ago, WoolMagnet said:
Sure, but i think Ballard had it worse.
If out team was as healthy as SF, that is , we had Luck, our WRs, Mack & hilton all year, we may be where they are.
13-3 with HFA? SF is better in almost every area of the field.I don’t know if I buy that Ballard had it worse. He didn’t get a crack at Bosa...but he chances to draft other SF impact players and he didn’t. Ballard has also had a ton of picks and cap space to work with. The Luck situation is bad luck...but Lynch also had to find a franchise QB.
Both are doing great jobs...but Lynch took advantage of a situation and got his franchise QB...as well as (IMO) the 2nd best HC in the NFL. I give him the leg up.
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I didn't hear the podcast...but first 2017 was an outlier...and now 2019 is an outlier?
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Dorsey will get a GM job.
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1 hour ago, J@son said:
For the love of god please stop. In the first post, you're relieved because Hilton said AC isn't retiring. Barely an hour later you "will be shocked if he comes back."
There's no time limit on hitting the "Submit reply" button. You can sit and re-read the post you've written, multiple times if necessary (which I would encourage), and think about what you've written before submitting the reply. Please do everyone on the forum a favor and start doing that.
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Since I have been told it doesn’t matter what fans think...I wonder why Irsay went to the trouble.
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44 minutes ago, richard pallo said:
I think using JB as a bridge could turn out to be a big problem. If we don't get off to a good start the boo birds will come out and the cries for the new QB will start early. More drama during the season. Also with JB being the starter you can expect empty seats and a decline in season tickets. I would imagine Irsay wouldn't like it. Not our problem but I don't think a owner likes to see empty seats. If we are going to draft a QB it might make sense to draft one at 13 and just start him and see what happens. I still think we can win right away with a veteran like Carr but if the plan is is draft a QB starting him right away might make more sense and get the fans excited. By keeping and starting JB you are pretty much throwing the season anyways. Just bite the bullett but if you want to win trade for Carr. I think we would be SB contenders if they do.
I agree with this. Whether or not Ballard and Reich care about the drama (especially from fans)...it's still not a good problem to have.
As for ticket sales and ratings, the Colts were not a fun team to watch in the 2nd half of the season...and even in games in the 1st half of the season. A decrease in either is not going to go over well with Irsay.
I think it will be interesting to see season ticket renewal rates. I have heard from some people that the Colts are reaching out earlier than usual...but I don't know if that is true.
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26 minutes ago, Superman said:
Nobody is trading anything of value for JB.
So my question is what's your preferred approach? If you want to blow out the QB room, who's the starter next year? And is he someone you're expecting to be the starter for the next five years, or are you drafting someone?
I don't know...I could see a team possibly trading back a player or a late pick for JB.
But I am definitely drafting someone...and this has been my preferred approach since Luck retired.
But I am also hedging my bets (so to speak) and upgrading the vet presence in the room. There should be a few like that available this offseason...that I believe would make better bridge QBs (and better mentors as well).
I still think Foles makes perfect sense.
It's not an ideal situation...so there's not an ideal solution...I just think JB starting next year is the least ideal way to go about it. But that's JMO.
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2 hours ago, Myles said:
That is one of the issues with Brissett as the starter. We could have finished with a better record, but we could have finished with a worse record. Him as the starter leads to close games. I say that ultimately leads to a .500 record. He was 7-8 as a starter (although I won't hang the loss where he was injured early on him). So 7-7. I think we will go .500 next season with him. Maybe 7-9, maybe 9-7.
I do understand if the QB they draft is not ready, JB is the guy. I'm just not thrilled about it.
The way the season turned out is likely a blessing in disguise long-term. There is really no argument now for why they should keep JB long-term. I accept that there is a decent chance that he starts next year...but as a fan of the Colts...I too am not thrilled with the idea at all.
One thing to consider now...is JB even a .500 QB? Even when they got to 5-2 after the DEN game (and after winning 3 straight)...the regression was already happening...as JB threw for 350 total yards and 1 INT in those wins against DEN and KC. And then they went 2-5 over the last 7 games when he came back.
The sample size of poor games is larger than the good games...even if we exclude 2017. Half of his games had a <80 passer rating (9 out of 14 he was <90). QBs that play like that get benched.
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22 hours ago, Superman said:
It's not. JMO.
I'm not making excuses for JB's play, and you know I think we need to improve. But it is still a fact, based in our present reality, that the WR room got decimated by injury, then JB got hurt (which probably directly cost us two games), then he played his way back to reasonable health but wasn't as effective anymore, and TY was out, and the staff had built a roster around Luck and not JB, and they were shellshocked by the retirement as well. Oh, and AV did cost us games. Also, Reich went through a weird stretch where his second down play calling was pretty awful.
None of this excuses JB's play, and I'm not being sensational about it. But even with JB as the starter, we reasonably could have gone 11-5 this year.
So my preferred approach is draft the next guy, let him compete with JB and whoever wins the job is the starter, but if it's JB, make sure we have a solid receiving corps around him, figure out what to do on second down, throw some screens in neutral situations, keep working on the defense, and see what happens in 2020. I think there's a reasonable floor with JB as the starter, and a potentially acceptable ceiling. But either way, proceed in 2020 with the goal of getting the next guy ready to be the starter asap, while putting a good team around whoever the starter is.
Again, JMO, but I wouldn't just scrap the QB room. That's an overreaction, to me.
I had the same preferred approach...even back when the season started.
I am still in favor of a bridge QB (with a rookie sitting a year). But looking at this through the lens of next season being about getting to (and winning in) the playoffs...as well as long-term development...I just don't see any real upside in that bridge QB being JB.
The moment JB plays poorly (which might happen early on)...the calls for the rookie QB will get very loud. And even though fans don't run teams...that is a distraction that no one wants. It's just a situation that could get somewhat toxic...possibly even behind closed doors.
And then there's the football side of it...does JB actually help them win games? For more than half the season...he was quite possibly the worst QB in the NFL. We can use excuses to justify it...but the data we have is the data we have (going back to 2017). And I don't really see an argument for how he has done this.
The fact that the Colts could have been 11-5 this year...should make people want a new QB next season even more. If people believe this team is an 11-win team (I really don't know if I do)...then settling for another year of JB and coin flip games doesn't really make sense...when an upgrade at QB would give them a bigger margin for error and success.
Also, does JB help the development of players around him? Yes there were injuries...but JB doesn't seem to elevate the production of anyone around him (Pascal maybe...but a big part of that was that was opportunity and that he was the first read often). I believe the Colts need to acquire and develop a good amount of pass-catching talent...and I don't see how JB really helps them do that...given his limitations.
And there's the fact that they can save a decent amount of cap space if the move on. Cap space isn't an issue for the Colts...but spending $21.5M on a bottom tier QB is just bad business.
HOU could have kept Osweiler around to "groom" whatever QB they drafted for a year...but there was no point in it. So they traded him and saved what money they could and hit refresh. I don't think JB is Osweiler-bad...but I see a similar scenario where there is little upside into keeping JB here next year. Except in this case...I think the Colts might actually get some draft capital out of a trade.
I guess I don't really see it as an overreaction...because what is the downside?
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1 hour ago, Fisticuffs111 said:
Maybe it’s just me, but even if it’s a re-sign or retire type of choice, still kind of makes me wonder if his heart is 100% in it. I know that could come off as disrespectful but that’s not my intention.
When guys ponder retirement in the NFL...they typically have one foot out the door. But most of the time it’s injuries or lack of opportunity/success.AC is (seemingly) healthy...coming off a career year...and set to earn a huge contract. Seems very likely that his heart isn’t in it (or he isn’t sold on the direction of the team).
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2 hours ago, Jdubu said:
Perhaps if the guys on the team who matter speak to coach and to CB enough, the JB experiment will be done. I honestly believe they will have a new QB come start of the 2020 season anyways, they will just keep the position top secret. May in fact be why JB kept the starting spot at the last two games, in order to conceal to others their true intentions. Keep saying and acting as though JB is their guy and then at first chance for an upgrade, either FA or draft, they pull that trigger.
JB May in fact stay on as a back up guy, idk, but he in no way can be the given starter. When is JB’s bonus money due? Will it be before or after the draft? Will it be before or after the FA period starts?
His 2020 $7M roster bonus became gtd in September...so they owe it anyways.-
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Sounds like there is a good chance he walks away. But man...he would be leaving at least $50M on the table.
Maybe he and Ballard can work out an arrangement where AC plays two more years...giving the Colts time to draft and develop his replacement.
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18 minutes ago, Defjamz26 said:
3 straight games with under 200 passing yards and zero passing TDs. At this point I’m not even sure you can start him next season. He was outplayed by a rookie 6th round pick. That’s inexcusable when A.J. Bouye was out and they don’t have Ramsey anymore. Hilton and Doyle were healthy too.
Also let’s stop sugar coating it with Jacoby. He is awful. Calling his average is an insult to average. Right now the only QB I might like him better than is Trubisky and even that’s debatable. He may not turn the ball over like crazy but he just cannot get anything done offensively. There’s no way any competent GM or coach sees that season finally and thinks he’s the future.
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41 minutes ago, DougDew said:
I see big media sort of covering for itself when they totally were behind JB and touting him as our next QB. Now its becoming obvious to them that JB might not be good enough or might be replaced. Yes there is truth to this human side, and it is heartwarming and feel-good.
But the idea of writing the article now, and publishing it now, comes as not running interference for the Colts FO, but from running interference for the big media pundits who got it wrong about JB for half a season. We should feel good about him even though the writing is pretty clear that he is not the QB he was touted to be. JMO.
SI (for some reason)...especially has been touting JB. This is at least the third different writer (two in recent weeks) that I remember.
Back in April, Andy Benoit said he would take JB over Russell Wilson (because JB would have a cheaper contract). When Luck retired, he said that JB was the Colts next starting QB of the future and that he had elite upside. And he called JB’s contract extension the “mother of all bargains”...lol.
Gary Gramling wrote a snarky, apologetic mess of an article before Week 14 about why JB was still the Colts QB of the future.
And then you have this article by Greg Bishop.
Seems hard to believe that these three writers...all from the same outlet...would have these similar opinions without some type of external/internal motivation.
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3 minutes ago, Chloe6124 said:
Denver did the same thing to the Texans when they blew them out a few weeks ago. Not sure if it was regression or just a great defensive game.
DEN had a good defense...so there’s no shame in that. It’s just that people (like the author of this article) love to use that arbitrary point of the season...but ignore the context.
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55 minutes ago, The Fish said:
Skip the fluff, what about the insane? "In hindsight, this meeting might appear fortuitous, a stroke of good luck in a season defined by the absence of Luck. But the Colts were far more than fortunate. A few weeks later, “it happened,” Brissett says, referring to Luck’s retirement." The Colts good luck becuase of Lucks retirement.. I laughed.. I know what they're getting at, but it's phrased poorly. And an aside that's not PC. I understood the booing and given the circumstance and the history, coupled with how fans are, not upsetting. QB's retiring at 30 usually don't get standing ovations.
Luck’s retirement was, in fact, very fortuitous for JB.
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The trade was for Kelvin Sheppard...a slow ILB.
It was a bad trade at the time...that looked awful in hindsight. That 2013 offseason has to be up there with worst of all time. Yet the Colts still went to the Divisional round that year.